They are reporting 90% of EFL clubs in favour of the project scam football

[2clubbanker 21]

How can anyone back that especially lower league teams!! A deal That Them A*** Hole clubs are offering they can just take young players for nothing and take them all into their systems of stockpiling young players send them out on loan and make money how can they not see how bad this?? They are not offering anything it’s the money clubs get from PP how greedy are the clubs owners!! The fans don’t want it 

Edited October 13, 2020 by 2clubbanker

[Canary Wundaboy 1,360]

You’ve created several threads on the same topic. Please use one of your existing threads instead of constantly creating new ones.

[The Real Buh 3,492]

I’m glad I never got a Norwich city tattoo put it that way

[The Real Buh 3,492]

1 minute ago, Canary Wundaboy said:

You’ve created several threads on the same topic. Please use one of your existing threads instead of constantly creating new ones.

Neenaw!!! Neenaw!!!

[NFN FC 1,123]

15 minutes ago, 2clubbanker said:

How can anyone back that especially lower league teams!! A deal That Them A*** Hole clubs are offering they can just take young players for nothing and take them all into their systems of stockpiling young players send them out on loan and make money how can they not see how bad this?? They are not offering anything it’s the money clubs get from PP how greedy are the clubs owners!! The fans don’t want it 

So are you for or against it?

[Jerrykerry 223]

They are backing it because they are desperate for cash and the proposers know it. 

[Kenny Foggo 1,122]

Short termism and they are desperate... It's vile

[Yorkshire Canary 118]

They may well be on the basis of extra cash particularly in the short term, will keep them all going and probably the vast majority of EFL clubs will not aspire to get into the PL let alone stay there so all the internal PL power grab means nothing to them. BUT the current PL members and the Government are not in favor so it will not fly in its current form.  Take out the PL run my just the top 9 and reducing the PL to 18 and they would probably get it through

[yellowrider120 797]

Peter Ridsdale quoted as saying that ..............'there were no dissenting voices in the Championship meeting to discuss the proposals'. Now if that's true then The Cook has well and truly shown her real colours! Time and time again she has stood up for 'the fans' (or has appeared to) and taken the populist vantage of railing against the huge injustices of the Premier League v the rest of the football pyramid. I (for one) would have been prepared to bet she would have taken a principled stand against this naked power grab and blackmail by the Scousers and United. A quick look at the 'Red and White Kop' fans forum yesterday showed many Liverpool fans were against the proposals along the lines of.................................................. 'Disappointing that our club seems to be one of the driving forces pushing for top flight football to become even more of a closed shop'

IF Ridsdale is speaking the truth then Smith(s) should be finished at Norwich as they will have shown themselves to have their Suffolk snouts as much in the money cesspit as other owners and all this 'fans champions' rubbish will be proved to be just that.  

[Thirsty Lizard 3,184]

21 minutes ago, yellowrider120 said:

Peter Ridsdale quoted as saying that ..............'there were no dissenting voices in the Championship meeting to discuss the proposals'. Now if that's true then The Cook has well and truly shown her real colours! Time and time again she has stood up for 'the fans' (or has appeared to) and taken the populist vantage of railing against the huge injustices of the Premier League v the rest of the football pyramid. I (for one) would have been prepared to bet she would have taken a principled stand against this naked power grab and blackmail by the Scousers and United. A quick look at the 'Red and White Kop' fans forum yesterday showed many Liverpool fans were against the proposals along the lines of.................................................. 'Disappointing that our club seems to be one of the driving forces pushing for top flight football to become even more of a closed shop'

IF Ridsdale is speaking the truth then Smith(s) should be finished at Norwich as they will have shown themselves to have their Suffolk snouts as much in the money cesspit as other owners and all this 'fans champions' rubbish will be proved to be just that.  

Ooooooooooooo .... do you really believe Peter Ridsdale???????????

[Branston Pickle 3,733]

Perhaps it might be better to wait and see what the club says rather than jumping to conclusions based on heresay? 

[sgncfc 1,262]

4 hours ago, 2clubbanker said:

How can anyone back that especially lower league teams!! A deal That Them A*** Hole clubs are offering they can just take young players for nothing and take them all into their systems of stockpiling young players send them out on loan and make money how can they not see how bad this?? They are not offering anything it’s the money clubs get from PP how greedy are the clubs owners!! The fans don’t want it 

It's no surprise that clubs with absolutely no chance of ever being near the PL are voting to get £3.5m a year each is it?

[Move Klose 303]

They will give far too much power to the big clubs, and wont be long before they decide they are giving too much money to the EFL so will reduce that.

Letting these 9 clubs decide who can and cant become owners of clubs to stop another Abrahmovic, sheik Mansour happening and becoming a threat.

Then it will become a closed shop, no relegations like they do in the MLS.

How the hell did Southampton become part of this top 9 anyway.

 

[hogesar 9,808]

Worth remembering the timing of all this is when clubs in the EFL are as desperate financially as they have ever been, with no guaranteed date of when things might improve.

I imagine the thoughts of owners now are exceptionally different to what they would have been if this was publicised last year.

[Jim Smith 2,365]

8 minutes ago, hogesar said:

Worth remembering the timing of all this is when clubs in the EFL are as desperate financially as they have ever been, with no guaranteed date of when things might improve.

I imagine the thoughts of owners now are exceptionally different to what they would have been if this was publicised last year.

Which is precisely why now is the moment it has been proposed. Its disgustingly cynical and whats more dperessing is that with the assistance of the odious Parry it seems to be working because these clubs are so desperate for cash to keep them going in the short term.

If you are a league 1 club or league 2 club with little realistic prospect of becoming a premier league club then why wouldn;t you be tempted by the money now to prop up a club that may go to the wall in a couple of months time. you are not really that bothered by who wields the power in the premier league. I would, however, be very disappointed if clubs like us did not come out oublically against these proposals. 

[TIL 1010 4,824]

11 hours ago, Branston Pickle said:

Perhaps it might be better to wait and see what the club says rather than jumping to conclusions based on heresay? 

No i am not having that Branston as now this is out there on social media it must be a fact. 😜

[cambridgeshire canary 6,865]

17 hours ago, Canary Wundaboy said:

You’ve created several threads on the same topic. Please use one of your existing threads instead of constantly creating new ones.

NEE NEE NEE NAW THATS THE SOUND OF THE POLICE

[TIL 1010 4,824]

2 hours ago, cambridgeshire canary said:

NEE NEE NEE NAW THATS THE SOUND OF THE POLICE

It could also be a fire engine or an ambulance.

[cambridgeshire canary 6,865]

41 minutes ago, TIL 1010 said:

It could also be a fire engine or an ambulance.

Indeed, but I think its too noisy. I think that to please those of sensative hearing they should stop the car, hang out the window and lightly  and silently wave their hands in the air to let people know to move out of the way.

 

This will no doubt please many, and will be a new inclusive and modern way of doing things

Edited October 14, 2020 by cambridgeshire canary

[GenerationA47 767]

22 hours ago, 2clubbanker said:

How can anyone back that especially lower league teams!! A deal That Them A*** Hole clubs are offering they can just take young players for nothing and take them all into their systems of stockpiling young players send them out on loan and make money how can they not see how bad this?? They are not offering anything it’s the money clubs get from PP how greedy are the clubs owners!! The fans don’t want it 

If they are reporting that they are reporting lies.

Manchester United and Liverpool forced into Project Big Picture climbdown

This report just appeared in the press

[Midlands Yellow 4,118]

Are we voting for it? Some extra funds could come in handy. 

[TeemuVanBasten 3,327]

On 13/10/2020 at 20:02, Kenny Foggo said:

Short termism and they are desperate... It's vile

Perhaps a lot of them need this bailout to have any chance of a future at all, would it be short termism if the alternative is to fold within 6 months? 

[Crafty Canary 511]

I have two pints to make arising from this thread.

1. Our majority owners would possibly see the PBP proposals as being not that far from their own position re NCFC. If implemented they wouldn’t have to bother about getting promoted or not thereby avoiding having to make any substantive player investments to try and stay up. In addition they would get a chunk of cash from the PL every season. Given their distaste for the effect that money has had on football what isn’t to be liked about these proposals. Avoiding the PL whilst, hopefully, flogging a few players for substantial fees on a regular basis should ensure the financial biability for NCFC for years to come.

2. Liverpool and Manchester United have achieved their objectives. They surely never expected PBP to be accepted by those outside the ‘big’ 6. However they have now forced the PL clubs to look at reforms in earnest and those reforms are likely to be similar to those they proposed in many areas. Everton, West Ham and Southampton would not have been impressed by the invitation to be part of the 9 as a two-thirds majority bar would mean the 6 could make their votes irrelevant and thus making them patsies in the process.

Edited October 15, 2020 by Crafty Canary

[PurpleCanary 5,601]

52 minutes ago, Crafty Canary said:

I have two pints to make arising from this thread.

1. Our majority owners would possibly see the PBP proposals as being not that far from their own position re NCFC. If implemented they wouldn’t have to bother about getting promoted or not thereby avoiding having to make any substantive player investments to try and stay up. In addition they would get a chunk of cash from the PL every season. Given their distaste for the effect that money has had on football what isn’t to be liked about these proposals. Avoiding the PL whilst, hopefully, flogging a few players for substantial fees on a regular basis should ensure the financial biability for NCFC for years to come.

2. Liverpool and Manchester United have achieved their objectives. They surely never expected PBP to be accepted by those outside the ‘big’ 6. However they have now forced the PL clubs to look at reforms in earnest and those reforms are likely to be similar to those they proposed in many areas. Everton, West Ham and Southampton would not have been impressed by the invitation to be part of the 9 as a two-thirds majority bar would mean the 6 could make their votes irrelevant and thus making them patsies in the process.

News to me that Smith and Jones don't want their club in the EPL. Moving on, neither of us knows, but I suspect the Big Six did  expect their proposals to be accepted, albeit with some quickly agreed modifications, because the timing of this becoming public indicates they were counting on the desperate need for a rescue package for the EFL forcing the other EPL clubs to fall into line.

What has shot their fox is the EPL instead agreeing to their own short-term rescue package, for Leagues One and Two, which takes away from the Big Six what was their strongest negotiating point for a hasty settlement. Not only do they now not have that advantage, but they have indeed p*ssed off other EPL clubs; and the more their proposals got scrutinised (another thing they were counting on, that the implications would not be realised in time) the worse they looked.

[essex canary 515]

On 13/10/2020 at 22:44, Branston Pickle said:

Perhaps it might be better to wait and see what the club says rather than jumping to conclusions based on heresay? 

Their comments on the £20 away ticket price would be interesting considering they backed their own initiative to effectively increase the price above £30.