lappinitup 629 Posted December 15, 2019 I loved Keelan's amazing reflex saves and passion - but he was prone to the odd mistake..... Woods was pure class and went on to play for England.... Gunny - well he was Gunny, great keeper. But I think Tim Krul is up there with them. The way he controls the area and helps the young kids in front of him, very agile, catches the ball rather than punching it away most of the time, and his distribution is always good. Oh, and he can save penalties. I think if we can stay in this division for another couple of seasons, he will become a legend. What do you think? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Feedthewolf 4,846 Posted December 15, 2019 1 minute ago, lappinitup said: I loved Keelan's amazing reflex saves and passion - but he was prone to the odd mistake..... Woods was pure class and went on to play for England.... Gunny - well he was Gunny, great keeper. But I think Tim Krul is up there with them. The way he controls the area and helps the young kids in front of him, very agile, catches the ball rather than punching it away most of the time, and his distribution is always good. Oh, and he can save penalties. I think if we can stay in this division for another couple of seasons, he will become a legend. What do you think? I think he's nowhere near that level personally. He's been very good overall in the 18 months he's been with us, but still makes a fair few mistakes (the one he dropped onto the post yesterday nearly cost us, for example). He's been a very positive influence on the team undoubtedly, but to put him in the same categories as the likes of Keelan and Gunn is hugely premature. I'd be interested to hear what some of our more 'experienced' fans feel about this; I'd have loved to have watched Keelan in his prime, and of course there's Nethercott even further back in time, not to mention Marshall, Green and Ruddy in more recent times. Forster and Angus were both brilliant for us for a season too, but until you've done it continuously for a number of years I don't see how you can be in that top echelon really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trevor Hockey's Beard 527 Posted December 15, 2019 I think it's impossible to compare Goalies from different eras, but we've usually had good keepers. You have to feel sorry for Keelan's understudy - Keelan wouldn't train all week and would still crawl onto the pitch and play. I think what can be said is that Krul fits with our plan of finding underpriced gems. We took a punt on him and it's paid off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Feedthewolf 4,846 Posted December 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Trevor Hockey's Beard said: I think it's impossible to compare Goalies from different eras, but we've usually had good keepers. You have to feel sorry for Keelan's understudy - Keelan wouldn't train all week and would still crawl onto the pitch and play. I think what can be said is that Krul fits with our plan of finding underpriced gems. We took a punt on him and it's paid off. Absolutely agree with this. In so many areas we've been given far better than we have an entitlement to expect with such a meagre budget. Considering we had a brilliant loan player in Angus for Farke's first season, getting someone of that pedigree on a permanent deal was outstanding business. He took a while to get up to speed, but since he did he's been great. Long may it continue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,606 Posted December 15, 2019 No. Next question. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
East Rider 551 Posted December 15, 2019 I was thinking yesterday how good Tim Krul has been for us however, that thought has been enhanced possibly by the penalty saves he has made. The furthest I can go back is to Keelan, and he was an icon for us in the days players stayed much longer at clubs. The saying is with him that he was the best keeper never to play for the national team. In shear ability wise it is very difficult but I thought **** Gunn and Fraiser Forster for the short periods they were with us were superb. However, you should really look at them over a longer period and with that in mind I would put Chris Woods right up there along with Bryan Gunn. Gunn was a man who like Tim Krul did not take any cr4p of any team no matter how famous or big they were. And that gave us confidence. Robert Green was a favourite of mine, and if not for that mistake could have had more caps for England perhaps. We have often had good keepers and at the moment Tim Krul could turn out to be one of the very best. Keep it up Tim. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
East Rider 551 Posted December 15, 2019 Not sure why 'Angus ' had been moderated. I thought he was quite good Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,673 Posted December 15, 2019 Hes very good but not sure against those comparisons. He is certainly a better GK than Ruddy, for example. In my opinion, of course. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Green Army 237 Posted December 15, 2019 Hahaaa, not a chance is Krul our best ever goalkeeper. Woods, Keelan, Gunn  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
......and Smith must score. 1,343 Posted December 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, East Rider said: Not sure why 'Angus ' had been moderated. I thought he was quite good Maybe they thought you called him an A-n-u-s ? 😀  1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
East Rider 551 Posted December 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, ......and Smith must score. said: Maybe they thought you called him an A-n-u-s ? 😀  We have had a few I would have used that to describe them, that's for sure Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Making Plans 936 Posted December 15, 2019 Good yes, but hey, come on, he is not even close to being our best ever. Nethercott, Kenyon, Keelan, Woods, Green, Gunn, Ruddy would be in my list ahead Krul. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Wal 314 Posted December 15, 2019 By far the best I saw was Keelan .................. but it's a much different game nowadays and keeper have to be good with their feet now and be aware enough to play out from the back. How the King could have adapted goodness only knows. I remember a rule change a few years ago which turned Bosnich from being a very good keeper to a complete flop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chumino 57 Posted December 15, 2019 Keelan and Woods for me although Krul has been superb this season, he has upped his performances this season measurably over last. Best ever no, but very happy to have him and definitely prem quality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,327 Posted December 15, 2019 47 minutes ago, Yellow Wal said: I remember a rule change a few years ago which turned Bosnich from being a very good keeper to a complete flop. Was it a ban on cocaine? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Wal 314 Posted December 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, TeemuVanBasten said: Was it a ban on cocaine? That came after the rule change pissed up his game! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BroadstairsR 2,168 Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) There's already been a poll on this on the readnorwich.com site. The % anomaly reflects the voting system used whereby each keeper was pitched directly against the other and a preference required.. Result:- Kevin Keelan 86%  Bryan Gunn 73%  Chris Woods 68%  John Ruddy 51%  Rob Green 49%  Angus Gunn 37%  Sandy Kennon 30%  Fraser Forster 26%  Tim Krul 18%  Ken Nethercott 14%  David Marshall 11%  Andy Marshall 5% In fairness to Tim KruI I believe it might have carried out before this season and his almost faultless display thus far. Ken Nethercott would be before most voters time I should imagine. Edited December 15, 2019 by BroadstairsR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boris 56 Posted December 15, 2019 Gunn was not that good but him play so many games for us on amazing period especially 88-92 I still have VHS record with our lost 4-0 away at Spurs 89-90 season i think was and Gunn was shocking this game ! Also we always ended with minus Goal difference even we ended 3rd 4th etc lol. He was OK and is legend coz played around 400 games on great period for us but never been very good imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chumino 57 Posted December 15, 2019 Echo that. Surprised to see him so high in that poll. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 5,141 Posted December 15, 2019 I think Krul is crucial for us because of his experience. We have a back four with an average ages of what, 22? He is the wise old (relatively!) head who keeps them on track, and with a different keeper I believe we would have concede many more. Which is probably the major reason why we haven’t seen Fahrmann take Tim’s place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
splendidrush 700 Posted December 16, 2019 ..... interesting that someone described Krul as w@nk this time last year, that we're now discussing his legendary status. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BroadstairsR 2,168 Posted December 16, 2019 (edited) He had a dodgy beginning which was meat and drink to those needing a scapegoat for the team's indifferent start to the campaign. Their views took some shifting despite Krul's eventual and vital contribution to the cause. Every minor slip-up, common to all 'keepers, was consequently pounced upon and magnified with unseemly glee.  They have been well and truly silenced regarding TK, who has been replaced by of a whole line of culprits, which, with the exception of Krul himself and Teemu Pukki, seems to have included the whole of the rest of the squad. Edited December 16, 2019 by BroadstairsR 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
All the Germans 1,078 Posted December 16, 2019 (edited) Gunn Senior for me. I never watched Keelan, and Chris Woods, whilst I was watching football, I was very young and don't really recall. Gunny was fantastic, if he hadn't got injured, we would not have got relegated first time round. Krul is good - better than we could really expect at our level / budget - but he's not been good enough to be considered in that bracket. Edited December 16, 2019 by All the Germans Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bradwell canary 109 Posted December 16, 2019 16 hours ago, Yellow Wal said: By far the best I saw was Keelan .................. but it's a much different game nowadays and keeper have to be good with their feet now and be aware enough to play out from the back. How the King could have adapted goodness only knows. I remember a rule change a few years ago which turned Bosnich from being a very good keeper to a complete flop. I agree, trouble is time plays trick. I always seem to recall that when he dived he always collected the ball. Today’s keepers tend to palm it out, often to the opposition. But as you say, playing out from the back is so different these days, just look at Joe Harts career after Man City found him not able to do that well enough for them.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jack Barak 46 Posted December 16, 2019 I think Ruddy is much underrated by us, one of the most solid keepers I think we have had and did not look our of place in the top division at all. I think ability wise he is top two for me. Always had a soft spot for Gunn (snr) but I think Gunn (jnr) is rated higher than his performances warranted because of the family connection to the club. If he had come in without that I think we would have considered him to be a good keeper but not top draw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Vince 318 Posted December 16, 2019 Daft question. Everyone knows Keelan was the best keeper. Followed by Woods and Nethercott. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highland Canary 76 Posted December 16, 2019 Too young for Nethercott but I would put Woods in front of Keelan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 4,746 Posted December 16, 2019 Kevin Keelan all day long. 673 games says all you need to know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CANARYKING 638 Posted December 16, 2019 24 minutes ago, TIL 1010 said: Kevin Keelan all day long. 673 games says all you need to know. Just about to post the same message Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Wal 314 Posted December 16, 2019 Kevin Keelan, the best uncapped Englishman ever (even though he was born in Calcutta). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites