CANARYKING 638 Posted July 15, 2018 Watched the live stream, wasn’t impressed with either keeper, think we need to go down the loan market ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 1,749 Posted July 15, 2018 My shout would have been a loan for Ward at Liverpool but it seems he''s getting a run out for them in pre season....beggars belief that they don''t appear interested in getting a new keeper to replace Karius Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gordon Bennett 783 Posted July 15, 2018 Farke will have made his mind up about Matthews, so we shall see over the next few weeks if another keeper is brought in or not.Being one of our own I''m sure we would all love to see Matthews succeed here but Farke needs to get his decision spot on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icecream Snow 761 Posted July 15, 2018 Given our shortage of homegrown players, I would have thought a Premiership loanee to replace McGovern would be a no-brainer. Then Matthews being the number 2.Realistically Matthews, Lewis, Hanley, Marshall and Rhodes make the squad, Husband might have to be shoe-horned in, and Cantwell, Raggett, Godfrey and Thompson would be on the fringe and close to loan deals) and we need 7 homegrown in every squad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,531 Posted July 15, 2018 It will be interesting to see what Farke does. On the bits I saw today, Matthews looked a little shaky once or twice, but goalkeepers have to be mentally strong and he may prove himself over the next few weeks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted July 15, 2018 It would be a real blow Farke does get this squad going well and we get let down by a keeper who''s not yet up to the required standard. Crucial to get this sorted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,395 Posted July 15, 2018 Don''t know much about Matthews but if he isn''t better than McGovern then he''s not good enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,606 Posted July 15, 2018 Could just be getting comfortable with being asked to do more with the ball at his feet but we''ll see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norfolk Mustard 94 Posted July 15, 2018 My hunch (fear) all along is we have weak GK''s following Angus departure. I imagine SW/DF have been working on it for a good while though - new appointment shortly I would think... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,671 Posted July 15, 2018 We have been very strongly linked with goalkeepers so i imagine we will be looking for one to compete for the number 1 shirt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mason 47 1,379 Posted July 15, 2018 My impression from the stream was that Matthews doesn''t have the passing range to compliment our implied style- perhaps something that can be coached into a young keeper but it was an obvious weak link. I don''t think anybody can deny that he also really should be stopping their second goal, getting down really slowly- I do wonder however if this was down to tiredness as the whole XI in the first half looked like they had to run to the game from Colney.At this point I''m not sure if Remi is the answer- but I would currently order it Matthews / McGovern / Oxborough, meaning it would necessitate a replacement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 4,746 Posted July 15, 2018 A lot of blind faith on here has been placed on the shoulders of Matthews since Angus left based on Plymouth fans opinions and twenty second clips on Channel 5 on a saturday night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike 2 Posted July 15, 2018 Rather than loan one and be in the same boat next season, I would prefer we bought one... Now that we are financial sorted of course Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 1,557 Posted July 16, 2018 Can loan a far better keeper than the club can currently afford to sign permanently. The goalkeeper market is a weird one, due to the lack of roatation and squads only needing 3 at most there are always loads of great keepers looking for loans - but clubs are more hesitant to sell them as the age profile for peak performance is so different. Danny Ward is a good example - a player of equal comparable ability would probably have played 10 or so games for Liverpool in rotation. However as a keeper he got 1 apperence in the League Cup - Liverpool however are reluctant to sell him as he could potentially be a reserve option in the future. The player himself wants to play to Liverpool might loan him out to keep him developing and happy until he reaches peak. To sign him would probably cost £5m/£6m - a fee well beyond Norwich currently. But a season loan would probably not be massively above what a new first choice keeper’s wages would be. I wouldn’t really have an issue with having a different loan keeper every season until Norwich were in the position to bring in a high quality one permanently. I don’t think Norwich are in that position presently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,606 Posted July 16, 2018 "Can loan a far better keeper than the club can currently afford to sign permanently."Wasn''t this the same argument made for a loan striker? Isn''t it pretty much the case for every position on the pitch? At some point we''ve got to actually spend a bit of money if we actually want to improve the squad long term. If we can''t afford a striker or a keeper this summer after we''ve made about £30m in player sales why will we magically be able to next season? Or do we just keep kicking the can down the road? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 16, 2018 I watched a live feed also, but it was the World Cup Final and many watching would have said that Lloris was rubbish.Judging on one match is easy but not always indicative.We now even judge goalkeepers on how they distribute the ball. But in reality, the most specialist of positions is easily criticised.Surely Matthews must be given a chance to play for us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy Canary 704 Posted July 16, 2018 Agreed KG.I remember watching Ruddy in a pre season game for us before he ever played competitively (Everton I think) and he made a howler for one of their goals. Walked home thinking how we had made a poor signing, only for him to have a good season and us getting promoted.Not saying that will happen but far too early to judge RM. The coaching staff will know if he''s up to it or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AJ 1,219 Posted July 16, 2018 Problem is most options are going to be worse than Gunn was for us last year. I''m sure we''ll give Matthews and McGovern a good chance before looking at replacements Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,671 Posted July 16, 2018 Gunn was an exceptional loan signing, they don''t always or even often work out that well.But most were advocating for Matthews to be given a chance. At the moment he is. Goalkeepers are a good loan option though for the reasons Bethnal says. They don''t get any game time whereas players in other positions get minutes on the pitch from the sub bench etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daly 501 Posted July 16, 2018 Is Fraser Foster still availableHave him over the other 2 any day Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 1,557 Posted July 16, 2018 Forster is reported to be on £70k a week. I don’t think he is a serious option. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,293 Posted July 16, 2018 Let''s get that prolific prophylactic keeper between the sticks......Jimmy Durex......He saves every shot...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 4,746 Posted July 16, 2018 Do you honestly think he would come ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,293 Posted July 16, 2018 Not rubber stamped yet and a bit premature.....but we don''t want any ''Johnny come lately''......As good as David Semen apparently...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted July 16, 2018 Mello Yello wrote the following post at 16/07/2018 10:27 PM: "Let''s get that prolific prophylactic keeper between the sticks......Jimmy Durex......He saves every shot......"always kept Seaman out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redders Right Foot 22 Posted July 17, 2018 [quote user="keelansgrandad"]I watched a live feed also, but it was the World Cup Final and many watching would have said that Lloris was rubbish.Judging on one match is easy but not always indicative.We now even judge goalkeepers on how they distribute the ball. But in reality, the most specialist of positions is easily criticised.Surely Matthews must be given a chance to play for us.[/quote]I agree to a point, but what I feel might be more indicative of Mathews level is that he is still splitting these games with McGovern, which for me may show that Farke is still unsure who will be starting come august 4th.and if that is the case, I think many here would agree that we need better than McGovern in goal, and if Mathews isn''t able to provide that we may need to look elsewhere. The last thing we want is to make strides with the outfield players and tactics to be knocked back a place by goalkeeping. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul moy 235 Posted July 17, 2018 Fraser Forster is out of favour at Southampton so may be worth trying to get him on loan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,531 Posted July 17, 2018 Forster has lost form and confidence, for whatever reason - that is not the kind of player we need. We have to have someone who is going to be reliable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ec-p 90 Posted July 17, 2018 Maybe Forster just needs a fresh start away from Southampton. I’d have him back in a heartbeat. Can’t see it happening, due to wages though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites