bringbackandyhughes 0 Posted January 15, 2012 Who had a good game for us yesterday? From the highlights looked like Ruddy did well. Anyone stand out for WBA. Long looked lively and took goal well and football first seemed to mention Thomas and Morrison a hell of a lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I am a Banana 0 Posted January 15, 2012 Norwich MOTM would have to be either Ayala (again) or possibly Surman (seems to be really improving at the moment, about time though!!)West Brom MOTM for me would have to be Jerome Thomas, cause Cafu no end of troubles and was unlucky not to have earned another penalty for WBA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gingerpele 0 Posted January 15, 2012 Ayala? Are you serious? He gave away a pen, looked shakey most of the time, sliced about 5 clearances, doesn''t know how to slide tackle correctly, if he was MOM then every other player must have had the worst games of their careers.Surman was probably MOM, looks like a proper footballer now. So change your comment in your sig Banana, its disrespectful and pathetic. Surman has always been a good player, he was great last season and just needed a run of games to get going this season (as a few other players in our team needed) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davo 0 Posted January 15, 2012 I have to say Surman, one off the line and the opener as well as having some nice touches and passes throughout the game. He made a real difference out there today.Banana boy Jerome Thomas wan''t lucky to not get a penalty he slipped. But he was their best player and it''s good for us he went off.Davo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PurpleCanary 6,381 Posted January 15, 2012 MoM? Easy. The Albion defender who decided he couldn''t be bothered to mark Morison (who was screaming his presence) as Holt ambled down the left wing and looked up to see who was available for a cross. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZLF 335 Posted January 15, 2012 Well it seems that WBA had the most of the play, dominating midfield while ours ceeded possession too cheaply, but WBA simply failing to take the chances they had. Our forward threat was minimual, if supremely efficient - with all three strikers playing significant parts in both goals. As such I cant see how the midfield or strikers can be up for motm, none truly stood out - although I agree Surman was the pick of them.At the back Ruddy was exposed through the centre several times and from corners in particular we looked vulnerable as we did when we played the baggies at home, ruling out both cbacks. Naughton was a candidate for me - very solid indeed but head and shoulders above everyone else was Ruddy - made a number of crucial saves and kept us in the game time and again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trent Canary 0 Posted January 15, 2012 Surman or Ruddy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Fish Seller 0 Posted January 15, 2012 [quote user="ZippersLeftFoot"]head and shoulders above everyone else was Ruddy - made a number of crucial saves and kept us in the game time and again. [/quote]I think we watched the same game. Ruddy made several outstanding saves in the first half, he also palpably settled the team with his command of the box at times. Without JR''s contribution there''s no doubt we would have come away without even the single point from a draw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWC 315 Posted January 15, 2012 I wasn''t at the game, but glued to a stream, and I''d have to say either Naughton or Surman for me.Deffo not Ayala, who didn''t play as bad as everyone says, but for every good thing he did, he cancelled it out with a cock-up! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davo 0 Posted January 15, 2012 I have to agree that Ruddy was one of the outstanding performers. He was in command of his area and didn''t flap at any crosses and came off his line well which is something he usually gets criticised for.It''s one of the best performances from him I''ve seen and he had no chance with the penalty as it was a clever piece of work from Long.Davo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Excited Canary 19 Posted January 15, 2012 [quote user="Gingerpele"]Ayala? Are you serious? He gave away a pen, looked shakey most of the time, sliced about 5 clearances, doesn''t know how to slide tackle correctly, if he was MOM then every other player must have had the worst games of their careers.Surman was probably MOM, looks like a proper footballer now. So change your comment in your sig Banana, its disrespectful and pathetic. Surman has always been a good player, he was great last season and just needed a run of games to get going this season (as a few other players in our team needed)[/quote]That is bollocks! It''s a shame he gave away the penalty because another than that he looked quality again. Ruddy MOM for me, Naughton & Surs good again! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
???? 0 Posted January 15, 2012 Between Naughton, Surman and Ruddy ..........Ayala played alright for them i have to say i was impressed with Yosef Mulumbu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Excited Canary 19 Posted January 15, 2012 [quote user="諾ç¶å¥‡åŸŽ"]Between Naughton, Surman and Ruddy ..........Ayala played alright for them i have to say i was impressed with Yosef Mulumbu[/quote]Agreed on Mulumbu although he cost them for our 2nd goal! Thomas was good although goes down very easily. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canary_on_the Trent 0 Posted January 15, 2012 Ayala had a really good game yesterday until the rash give away of the penalty.Naughton was superb but Surman probably edges it for me though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gingerpele 0 Posted January 15, 2012 [quote user="Excited Canary"][quote user="Gingerpele"]Ayala? Are you serious? He gave away a pen, looked shakey most of the time, sliced about 5 clearances, doesn''t know how to slide tackle correctly, if he was MOM then every other player must have had the worst games of their careers.Surman was probably MOM, looks like a proper footballer now. So change your comment in your sig Banana, its disrespectful and pathetic. Surman has always been a good player, he was great last season and just needed a run of games to get going this season (as a few other players in our team needed)[/quote]That is bollocks! It''s a shame he gave away the penalty because another than that he looked quality again. Ruddy MOM for me, Naughton & Surs good again![/quote]Actually its not. You where at the game, you didn''t have the benefit of replays. Ayala did not look quality yesterday, he has done previously. And also, don''t tell me my opinion is bollocks, its my opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fiery Zac 1,066 Posted January 15, 2012 Seriously cant understand some things im reading about Ayala. Ok so its all about opinions so i wont say im right and everyone else is wrong, but...He was awful! Got lucky with a tackle early on that couldve gone wrong, just jumped into another tackle with no idea if he''d get the ball (and he didnt), sliced clearances, gave away a laughable corner instead of clearing it (after almost doing the exact same thing minutes earlier - its like it was a practice!), was the wrong side of the play at least a couple of times in the first half and i havent even got to the penalty yet!Ok, so the penalty. How has he managed to almost miss the ball completely when easily being the favourite to win it and getting there first? It was only a matter of time before he gave away a pen as he just doesnt seem to know how to tackle. This is not purely based on that incident as it happened time and time again (nor is it based on just this game, his tackling has been poor every time ive seen him - booked against QPR for another ridiculous challenge). Back to the pen, if he had connected properly with the player, the guys leg would have come off, his leg was straight, hard and over the ball. Very lucky not to get red, though i believe it wasnt reckless, he simply doesnt know how to tackle.I dont like where i sit at Carrow rd as there are some proper constant moaners around me, and they were slating Ayala against Fulham which was harsh as it was virtually his first game back after a long injury. After that game i was unconvinced and said so on here but then the QPR game and now this, i am simply flabbergasted at some of the high praise he is continuing to get. I really thought id missed something about him but it was the same problems yesterday (i was relieved for my sanity that i hadnt got it wrong from the previous 2 league games) but still praise for Ayala after this game? I really must have learnt something different at school about the fundamentals of defending - because thats where my issue is, the fundamentals!Please prove me wrong Ayala, i realise im in a minority and id love to see a clean sheet! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gingerpele 0 Posted January 15, 2012 But clean sheets apparently don''t matter... The confidence, ability to win 1-0 or get a 0-0 draw when we can''t score. None of that matters, as long as we score 6 in every game like we always do, oh wait no we don''t. (Obviously i''m very happy with where we are, we couldn''t have expected to be this high up in the league, and if we had been getting clean sheets, winning 1-0 instead of drawing 1-1, we would be even higher up, but still...).Ayala looks like he can be a great player, when he''s on the ball he''s much better than Whitbread, who for some reason thinks he is the best footballer in the world at times. Ayala''s technique when sliding in, just doesn''t look right. In 3/4 games he''s already been booked 3 times, given away a few fouls and a penalty. If he can get rid of that poor technique/rashness then he will be a top premiership defender. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fiery Zac 1,066 Posted January 15, 2012 [quote user="Gingerpele"]But clean sheets apparently don''t matter... The confidence, ability to win 1-0 or get a 0-0 draw when we can''t score. None of that matters, as long as we score 6 in every game like we always do, oh wait no we don''t. (Obviously i''m very happy with where we are, we couldn''t have expected to be this high up in the league, and if we had been getting clean sheets, winning 1-0 instead of drawing 1-1, we would be even higher up, but still...).Ayala looks like he can be a great player, when he''s on the ball he''s much better than Whitbread, who for some reason thinks he is the best footballer in the world at times. Ayala''s technique when sliding in, just doesn''t look right. In 3/4 games he''s already been booked 3 times, given away a few fouls and a penalty. If he can get rid of that poor technique/rashness then he will be a top premiership defender.[/quote]Agreed about his play on the ball. He also looks calm and assured - particularly surprising as he could easily get nervy after some dodgy tackles and conceding Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kick it off 2,062 Posted January 15, 2012 I''m unsure as to why people are going for Ayala? He gave the pen away with a horrible tackle, on two occassions ran around in circles in his own box, dribbling out and giving away unneccessary corner (and once a throw that prob should have been a corner). He was shaky yesterday in my book, however I think he has done really great these past few weeks and he''s only a young lad - looks like he could be a great signing but never MOTM for me yesterday.I thought MOTM was probably Surman or Naughton, both of whom had outstanding games, Whitbread wasn''t too far behind them. Morison also had a class game yesterday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boris 62 Posted January 15, 2012 [quote user="kick it off"]I''m unsure as to why people are going for Ayala? He gave the pen away with a horrible tackle, on two occassions ran around in circles in his own box, dribbling out and giving away unneccessary corner (and once a throw that prob should have been a corner). He was shaky yesterday in my book, however I think he has done really great these past few weeks and he''s only a young lad - looks like he could be a great signing but never MOTM for me yesterday.I thought MOTM was probably Surman or Naughton, both of whom had outstanding games, Whitbread wasn''t too far behind them. Morison also had a class game yesterday.[/quote] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spencer 1970 214 Posted January 15, 2012 I agree with most, Ruddy played well (but was fortunate with the "save" in the first half that he seemed to have weak wrists on as it cannoned onto the bar). Naughton after a shaky start, made lots of decisive tackles and great passes. Surman had another great game...I love the fact that he is proving all the halfwits on here wrong. BUT you''ve all missed one out; Hoolahan was involved in everything once again and its laughable how many times he can do that right foot pirouette and create space for another pass.I have to add Morison didn''t do much in the first half for me but I wondered if PL gave a rocket at HT as in the 2nd half played a stormer.Mulumbu was WBAs MOM as dictated play foe them for large parts of the game even though at fault for our 2nd.Worst player on the park? (sorry) R.Martin...the weakest game he''s had for us since Orient away 2 seasons ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grantroederdisaster 0 Posted January 15, 2012 Ruddy - great goalkeeping! Whitbread - Very solid defending! Surman - Very good link up play, always involved and great finish for goal! Either Ruddy or Surman for me! As for Ayala - Done a job but was nowhere near MOTM yesterday. In fact he lucky not to get sent of cause in the 1st half he deliberately kicked the ball away after conceded a throw I think which really should have led to a yellow card. Definate penalty cause he took the man, he had to make the tackle but also had to get it right which it didn''t! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theres only one Martin Peters! 0 Posted January 15, 2012 Ruddy was immense and gets my vote after that I would say Hoolahan, made the first goal, played a big part in the move for the second goal, and when we were on top in the the first part of the 2nd half before they made substitutions he ran the midfield. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Europe_93 50 Posted January 15, 2012 Ayala - have high hopes for him, but yesterday he was poor. Some people say when you come back from injury you get through the first few games on adrenalin, that can then be followed by a dip in form, so hope he will pick up again. He made 3-4 mistakes, in a league where you can be frequently punished for one, that is too many.Ruddy would get my vote. Thought the whole team worked hard without playing too well, but the difference was we showed real quality in the final 3rd for the 2 goals. West Brom huffed and puffed but did not really show that quality. This result shows a progression in the team again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Europe_93 50 Posted January 15, 2012 Jerome Thomas - easily their best player, very happy when he went off. Difficult opponent for Martin, but his lack of pace may eventually cost him his regular place in the team, but has shown great value as squad player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Iron Lady 0 Posted January 15, 2012 That Andrew Surman. Charming young man! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellowfuture 71 Posted January 15, 2012 Has to be Surman, scored a great goal and also headed one off the line preventing a West Brom goal. He worked very hard yesterday and showed well despite being part of a mid field that was very much out played in the first half. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Iron Lady 0 Posted January 15, 2012 [quote user="thefutureisyellow"]Has to be Surman, scored a great goal and also headed one off the line preventing a West Brom goal. He worked very hard yesterday and showed well despite being part of a mid field that was very much out played in the first half. [/quote]But Andrew told me that he would not change his hair do in order to court popularity! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fellowyellow 0 Posted January 15, 2012 Four top performance yesterday from Ruddy (two great stops), Whitbread (first half goal saving tackle), Hoolahoops (never stopped running). Surman shades it for his goal, contribution to winner and header off the line.Overall thought we looked weak again in defensive midfield with WBA forwards regularly breaking weak tackles and then face to face with our defence. Did really well to keep them to a single goal I thought (and a bit of luck). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shefcanary 2,950 Posted January 15, 2012 Ruddy just before Whitbread and Surman for me (WFLGH would of if he had been on longer!).As for Ayala, I take my lead from Pacheco and his comments on Twitter - implies he cannot play a game without getting a yellow card. Plays okay for most of a match but will always make a mistake leading to a rash tackle. Lets hope Culverhouse can coach it out of him. However will mean he will have to miss a match soon (the Sunderland one if Pacheco is correct!). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites