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Looks like Hucks is definitely off after reading Roeder talk about his major rebuilding plans for the Summer:

"That''s the toughest part of my job, recruitment," he said. "Because if you strip away the loans and see what I''m using, there''s not a lot. Come the summer with Dion retiring and, it looks pretty certain that before I''ve had a chance to make my mind up, Huckerby has made his own mind up that he''s leaving, I think that''s nine players down.

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[quote user="alex_ncfc"]

Looks like Hucks is definitely off after reading Roeder talk about his major rebuilding plans for the Summer:

"That''s the toughest part of my job, recruitment," he said. "Because if you strip away the loans and see what I''m using, there''s not a lot. Come the summer with Dion retiring and, it looks pretty certain that before I''ve had a chance to make my mind up, Huckerby has made his own mind up that he''s leaving, I think that''s nine players down.

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But  when they get together to talk and if Roeder decides to offer Hucks another year I''m sure he would stay so don''t agree its official yet.

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http://www.canaries.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetails/0,,10355~1242288,00.html

 

according to Roeader hucks has made his mind up to leave

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Hardly surprising when you are left on the bench for another teams 18 year old youth player who cut inside so often it looked like he had never played Left Wing before.

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It''s blatantly obvious to anybody with half a brain that Roeder doesn''t want Huckerby here. Bench or not even on bench is Hucks'' lot with Roeder.

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if it wasnt for those loan signings wiz we''d probebly still be in the relgation zone so i''d keep your opinions on glenns tranfer technique to your self.

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Its going to be hard to imagine him no longer being available for selection in a Norwich shirt. Surely he has one more year before moving on? I know hes a shadow of his former self but I still think he has just alittle bit more to offer.

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right move at the right time... For all parties.. if we kept him for another year his pace would go completely and he wouldnt even get anywhere near the subs bench.. we''d be paying 1st team wages for someone to turn out against Grays reserves... we need to plan for the future now and the future does not involve Darren Huckerby...

 We''ve all seen this coming for a while, he wont get a new contract and although some on here have said it i think deep down they know it in their hearts that no contract will be offered.

 Good luck to Hucks in Toronto, or wherever he ends up playing, if he retires from the game then good luck to him in what ever interests he persues away from football...

jas :)

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[quote user="paint_me_yellow"]Its going to be hard to imagine him no longer being available for selection in a Norwich shirt. Surely he has one more year before moving on? I know hes a shadow of his former self but I still think he has just alittle bit more to offer.[/quote]

Agreed. A Hucks not quite firing on all cylinders is still twice the player most of the second raters we have had here over the past three or four seasons have been. Form is temporary. Class is permanent.

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[quote user="1st Wizard"]Oh well, thats 9 more loan signings then!.[8o|][/quote]

I quite like having the loan signings, not as many as we have, but as long as we have players who are young, keen and hungry etc, I''m happy.

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The bottom line is; we are happy whilst we are winning, no matter who plays. It''s if things start to go wrong that we will look more closely at some of Mr Roeders'' decisions.

He has lots of Brownie points at the moment (quite rightly so). He can basically do has he likes and the majority will go along with whatever he does.

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We have to move on.

I love to watch Hucks as much as anyone but he isnt geting any younger.

One of the major problems with Hucks is his wages.

If we bring in a quality player in the summer his agent will expect him to be at least as well paid as the highest earner at the club.

As soon as we are mathematically safe from relegation I expect us to tie up some of the contracts. (Fozzy, Doc ect)

The way out of this division is being "difficult to beat". Its that simple.

Look how we have climed up the table without really scoring many goals.

If we could add a bit more quality up front we have a real shot at winning the division.

Part of GR long term strategy is loan signings. He is in good standing with several top clubs, looking after their quality players.

(the down side is playing time is pretty much part of the deal )

The permanent members of the squad have to except this. Competition for places is obviously not a bad thing.

We are attractive because of our facilities and larger home crowds than quite a few prem clubs.

We could probably never afford to buy a player like Ched Evans.

Let alone the whole bevy of young quality players we have.

This division is so even that a bottom club who adds 2-3 quality players can soon move up the table.

 

 

 

 

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I don''t like the loan system, never have, things get tough and the loanees can sod off at the end of it, plus you''re only allowed so many on/in the bench/team.

So there!.[:|]

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It looks to me as though his wages are a big factor in this. He is probably the highest paid player by a long way.

I reckon GR thinks he can get 2 or 3 loans for the same money as he''s paying Hucks.

A pity though, he was such an exciting player. Carrow Road won''t seem the same when he''s gone.

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[quote user="ricardo"]

It looks to me as though his wages are a big factor in this. He is probably the highest paid player by a long way.

I reckon GR thinks he can get 2 or 3 loans for the same money as he''s paying Hucks.

A pity though, he was such an exciting player. Carrow Road won''t seem the same when he''s gone.

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Yep I agree with you Ricardo 100% spot on you lovely old boy , well said .[Y] arrdee.

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I think Hucks is still worth another years deal as hes still got that extra dimension. Its only last year that he got player of the year and almost singlehandedly saved us from the drop last year after Earnie was injured!

 

He should be starting games now cause it was painful on Tuesday night watching Keiron Gibbs perform so badly and look so far out of his depth!

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[quote user="Citizen Journalist Foghorn"][quote user="Greg Sayer"]

http://www.canaries.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetails/0,,10355~1242288,00.html

 

according to Roeader hucks has made his mind up to leave

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Hardly surprising when you are left on the bench for another teams 18 year old youth player who cut inside so often it looked like he had never played Left Wing before.

[/quote]Oh, and Hucks is an orthodox winger who never cuts inside? LOL because that''s exactly his game you''re describing.

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[quote user="ricardo"]

It looks to me as though his wages are a big factor in this. He is probably the highest paid player by a long way.

I reckon GR thinks he can get 2 or 3 loans for the same money as he''s paying Hucks.

A pity though, he was such an exciting player. Carrow Road won''t seem the same when he''s gone.

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I think you must be right ricardo, but if hucks wants a new contract next year then this could be negotiated down. His pace is suffering the from "old father time" but he can still make a good contribution, hopefully he will have the nouse to realise he is not the player he was and will take a deal, if offered, on a lot less than he gets at the moment. 

I really want him to stay. He`s been a big part of this club over the last few years and could become a super sub in his dotage, if he is prepared to accept that sort of a role.

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well, it comes down to money and personalities - obviously roedy and hucks aren''t seeing quite eye to eye, and as we all know, the injury to hucks hip has affected his from this year, but on the wedge he''s on, we can''t afford to pay hux if he lacks form or proper fitness.he''s been one hellava player for us, make no mistake, but looking to the future, its hard to see where hucks fits in - cos roedy likes to play a tight rather than expansive system, and hucks don''t fit the bill anymore it seems.  with curo out, chedders sent home sick in the afternoon pre match - hucks must have thought he''d get a game up front alongside dion.  but no, chedders fought hard to retain his place and got the nod to start - admire the determination, but understandably - chedders gave a lucklustre performance.  also, with gibbs looking and playing like a fresh, green kid - and matty patty given the nod to replace him 2nd half, it must have driven hucks mad, sitting on the bench knowing he was 3rd choice for left wing - finally getting on for crofty on the right, where we all know he looks a pale imitation of his former self.  no, i''m not surprised to see this news come out, its come to a head - after tuesday, the writing was clearly written in huge letters on the wall for hucks and all to see - and i imagine he had clear the air talks with roedy afterwards - hence the statement today....shame to see it end this way, but hucks got a very good reception from the crowd on tuesday night, which hopefully he''ll take good heart from.  he''s been at loadsa clubs, new manager, new broom.i''ll never forget his contribution to the club, and thank him sincerely for all his efforts in the cause of NCFC.

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What really p***es me off about this message board is the fickle attitude of a great many of the ''senior'' posters.  The facts are that we don''t really know what kind of form Hux is capable of producing because a) he''s not been fit; and b) he''s not getting picked.

It goes without saying, you pick your best team and there''s no room for sentiment - it also goes without saying that Roeder''s got most decisions right.  So please note, I''m not saying whether he should be picking Hux or not.  I''m simply registering my amazement and disappointment at the cavalier and high handed attitidue of so many posters who deem that Hux is past it & therefore want the guy out the door; the one player who''s given us absolute loyalty and commitment, not to mention, something to shout about.

No doubt, I''ll be shouted down for ''living in past'' and to ''get over it'' and ''move on'' - but my point is not about whether we should be picking Hux or not.  My point is that we''ve benefited from Hux loyality and commitment over the years, yet now the boot''s on the other foot, the majority seem to want  Hux gone - yet I''ll bet that these opionionated posters are the very people who denounced Earnie and Ashton for moving on to further their careers. 

Well it''s hardly surprising is it?  Coz loyality clearly doesn''t count for much for many City fans.  Typical british mentality.  Build someone up, then knock ''em down. 

To my mind, the guys earned our support even in the twilight of his career.  And I''ll bet that Hux would sign a new contract for much reduced cash IF he feels he can contribute something to the club.  But know one thing, Hux wont need telling when he''s past it.  He''ll bow out gracefully and with integrity - something I don''t see much of on here.

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[quote user="LeedsYellow"]

What really p***es me off about this message board is the fickle attitude of a great many of the ''senior'' posters.  The facts are that we don''t really know what kind of form Hux is capable of producing because a) he''s not been fit; and b) he''s not getting picked.

It goes without saying, you pick your best team and there''s no room for sentiment - it also goes without saying that Roeder''s got most decisions right.  So please note, I''m not saying whether he should be picking Hux or not.  I''m simply registering my amazement and disappointment at the cavalier and high handed attitidue of so many posters who deem that Hux is past it & therefore want the guy out the door; the one player who''s given us absolute loyalty and commitment, not to mention, something to shout about.

No doubt, I''ll be shouted down for ''living in past'' and to ''get over it'' and ''move on'' - but my point is not about whether we should be picking Hux or not.  My point is that we''ve benefited from Hux loyality and commitment over the years, yet now the boot''s on the other foot, the majority seem to want  Hux gone - yet I''ll bet that these opionionated posters are the very people who denounced Earnie and Ashton for moving on to further their careers. 

Well it''s hardly surprising is it?  Coz loyality clearly doesn''t count for much for many City fans.  Typical british mentality.  Build someone up, then knock ''em down. 

To my mind, the guys earned our support even in the twilight of his career.  And I''ll bet that Hux would sign a new contract for much reduced cash IF he feels he can contribute something to the club.  But know one thing, Hux wont need telling when he''s past it.  He''ll bow out gracefully and with integrity - something I don''t see much of on here.

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You won''t be shouted down here mate, I reckon you have got it spot on, lHucks is a loyal player, fabulous talent, has got the guts to speak his mind, and a really nice bloke. One or two people should hang their heads regarding comments made about him.

 

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[quote user="Old Boy"][quote user="Citizen Journalist Foghorn"][quote user="Greg Sayer"]

http://www.canaries.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetails/0,,10355~1242288,00.html

 

according to Roeader hucks has made his mind up to leave

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Hardly surprising when you are left on the bench for another teams 18 year old youth player who cut inside so often it looked like he had never played Left Wing before.

[/quote]Oh, and Hucks is an orthodox winger who never cuts inside? LOL because that''s exactly his game you''re describing.
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The difference is though that Hucks cuts inside once he receives the ball. He doesn''t start 20 yards in field!

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Another dramatic headline by Archant ''''Roeder signals Huck''s exit'' although if you read the article he actually says that he feels that Hucks may have made his mind up which to me tells me they have spoken yet??

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[quote user="LeedsYellow"]

What really p***es me off about this message board is the fickle attitude of a great many of the ''senior'' posters.  The facts are that we don''t really know what kind of form Hux is capable of producing because a) he''s not been fit; and b) he''s not getting picked.

It goes without saying, you pick your best team and there''s no room for sentiment - it also goes without saying that Roeder''s got most decisions right.  So please note, I''m not saying whether he should be picking Hux or not.  I''m simply registering my amazement and disappointment at the cavalier and high handed attitidue of so many posters who deem that Hux is past it & therefore want the guy out the door; the one player who''s given us absolute loyalty and commitment, not to mention, something to shout about.

No doubt, I''ll be shouted down for ''living in past'' and to ''get over it'' and ''move on'' - but my point is not about whether we should be picking Hux or not.  My point is that we''ve benefited from Hux loyality and commitment over the years, yet now the boot''s on the other foot, the majority seem to want  Hux gone - yet I''ll bet that these opionionated posters are the very people who denounced Earnie and Ashton for moving on to further their careers. 

Well it''s hardly surprising is it?  Coz loyality clearly doesn''t count for much for many City fans.  Typical british mentality.  Build someone up, then knock ''em down. 

To my mind, the guys earned our support even in the twilight of his career.  And I''ll bet that Hux would sign a new contract for much reduced cash IF he feels he can contribute something to the club.  But know one thing, Hux wont need telling when he''s past it.  He''ll bow out gracefully and with integrity - something I don''t see much of on here.

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You mention Loyalty then Mention Robert Earnshaw and how fans bemoaned him moving on to further his career.. Robert Earnshaw was a mercenary! he came here with NO intention of sticking around.. a clause in his contract saw to that... and then he meets Billy Davies at he millenium stadium last season... before "amazingly" signing for Derby for the amount of the clause.. it doesnt take a genius to work out what happened there does it?

 Robert Earnshaw can stay getting fat and unfit in Derbys reserves for all i care.. he moved for reasons of Greed qand its gone horribly wrong for him, and to tell you the truth im pleased it has! good to see the "mighty" fall now and again.

 as for Ashton, i wont bemoan him for moving on... He was a young man with a bright future ahead of him in the game.. he had said all along he''d be off... I fully expect had we of been top of the league at the time he''d of stuck around till the end of the season and got us back into the premiership.. it wasnt to be.. and he made the right decision, stay at a club spiralling downwards and wonder what might of been or take a chance to play at the highest level and see what comes of it....

 Im one of those who thinks hucks is "past it" and do feel its time for him to move on.. its ok saying he will take a contract on reduced Wages and that he knows when his time is up.. but Darren Huckerby isnt the Manager of Norwich City is he? Glenn Roeder is.. and he has made his decision.. there wont be a Contract for Huckerby.. it doesnt matter if Hucks feels he can bring something to the team.. the manager has made his mind up...

Hucks showed Loyalty, Ashton showed Ambition.. but neither of those players deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as that Greedy little sh*t Earnshaw.

jas :)

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