Wagner OUT

[essex canary 496]

7 minutes ago, hogesar said:

Bringing Springett on has to be close to a sackable offence in itself.

I dont particularly rate Onel but it meant we offered zero threat down one entire side of the pitch.

I guess those who appointed Wagner or Dean Smith can't possibly be responsible or accountable for the ineptitude?

[Top corner 228]

I was never confident even at 2-0, the defence has such a soft underbelly. I would like a change of management, but I can't see that happening until the new SD is in place. 

[S_81 798]

1 minute ago, Top corner said:

I was never confident even at 2-0, the defence has such a soft underbelly. I would like a change of management, but I can't see that happening until the new SD is in place. 

It will happen after Ipswich away. That result is only going one way 

[Herman 9,768]

Webber will drag it out until the place is toxic again and we are too far to get anywhere. 

Move quicker ffs. 

[FCC 76]

Surely the new Sporting Director knows some young coaches. I would rather have someone starting out who at least will learn and improve. This clown is hopeless, and that’s after Smith. 

[Davidlingfield 63]

1 minute ago, Herman said:

Webber will drag it out until the place is toxic again and we are too far to get anywhere. 

Move quicker ffs. 

The Webber parasites will take as much cash as they can before they are dragged away, unfortunately.

[S_81 798]

Just now, FCC said:

Surely the new Sporting Director knows some young coaches. I would rather have someone starting out who at least will learn and improve. This clown is hopeless, and that’s after Smith. 

We’ve got one at our club. At this point I’d rather take a punt on him than Wagner to be honest 

[GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 1,761]

...if there is any silver lining to this ,at least Leeds are only 6 pts behind Ip****h.

Theyre possibly the one club that I could back to be consistent enough to take the other spot with Leicester

[Disco Dales Jockstrap 1,891]

9 minutes ago, Herman said:

Webber will drag it out until the place is toxic again and we are too far to get anywhere. 

Move quicker ffs. 

Webber won't be going anywhere quicker than he has to and neither will Wagner.

But I'm sure Webber will have one of his well thought out, constructive comments to make about the fans when either of them do finally vacate the building.

OTBC

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[S_81 798]

1 minute ago, Disco Dales Jockstrap said:

Unfortunately, Webber won't be going anywhere quicker than he has to. 

And I'm sure he'll have one of his well thought out, constructive comments to make about the fans when he finally does go...

OTBC

And the longer it goes to 5hit here - surely the fewer options he will have for his next move. 

[Peregrine Shorts 315]

Awful in game management, substitutions seem to have been decided in training during the week.

 

get him gone

[Highland Canary 76]

Relegation form and to think we’ll have to wait until post December 16 before the inevitable change is made. What a fiasco.

[baldy09 156]

The club not broken according a fan on Radio Norfolk- to me its seems we on our way-  poor signings - a poor  football director - who still here - Poor coach- giving Idah a 5 year contract the list goes on

[Indy 3,300]

We need to get a good coach who has worked with the new incoming SD, how about Carlos Cuesta? 

[S_81 798]

1 minute ago, Indy said:

We need to get a good coach who has worked with the new incoming SD, how about Carlos Cuesta? 

Surely wouldn’t come here? 

[Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,821]

36 minutes ago, hogesar said:

Bringing Springett on has to be close to a sackable offence in itself.

I dont particularly rate Onel but it meant we offered zero threat down one entire side of the pitch.

I couldn't believe it either. We had four wingers on the bench today, which shows how unbalanced the squad was left after the window, and I'd say Springett would've been the last of those four that I'd bring on. 

As for Wagner in general, I'd still give him until the November international break, but unless we see an improvement in the four games until then, we'd certainly have to consider it. The game management today was **** poor; we played like we were 2-0 down in the second half, not 2-0 up. 

[BigGrantsTash 70]

53 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said:

Yeah, he needs to go but who replaces him? Who's avaible? Warnock? Dear oh dear

Not that I’d want him. He’s to passed it now and his time has gone. Still though it does make me laugh how people turn they’re nose up and ridicule him.

He’s one of the most successful managers in the history of this league. Nearly every player he’s managed speaks very highly of him. Nearly all the fans of his past clubs hold him in high regard. 

I guess his accent isn’t sexy and due to the fact he’s British and over 50 everyone presumes it’s all 442 and hoof it forward even though his teams don’t play like that.

[Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,821]

42 minutes ago, S_81 said:

Lee Carsley is my shout. Would be a good complement to the new DoF when it comes to youth development too - which is the reality of what we are going to need under this model of short term contracts for old folk 

Not a bad shout, actually. Seems a logical step from the England U21s, as he's never going to be given the senior job.

[S_81 798]

36 minutes ago, BroadstairsR said:

There surely cannot be many supporters left who have retained faith in this manager to achieve a top six place even when he is able to call upon a full strength squad.

It is still October and I feel that the season has already drifted away too far. Sounds daft, but I have such little faith in the man.

Our recent run has been terrible yet out comes the team sheet and out comes the usual line-up. We clearly have no  fit strikers of any worth yet the manager perseveres with them and seems incapable of even trialling other options up front.

He's quite literally wasting the talents of one of the league's best players in front of our very eyes due to his  manager's inflexibility and tactical ineptness.

We will achieve nothing with this man in charge. He just hasn't got it to the point of being the most frustrating manager since  .... er?  Dean Smith.

Therefore, we might as well dispose of Wagner simply because there is nothing to lose and all to gain. I happen to believe that we have the talent to do much better than recent disasters.

Agreed. And I thought that was also the point / benefit of a short, rolling, contract. 
 

But the club, and the few fans of Wagner left on here, will dismiss his overall stats and losing runs by hiding behind the easy start and the injuries and the fact that 6th is still within reach. 
 

[Kenny Foggo 1,116]

45 minutes ago, Nexus_Canary said:

And replace with who?

 

Liam Manning

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Just now, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said:

Not a bad shout, actually. Seems a logical step from the England U21s, as he's never going to be given the senior job.

And he’s never been anything but a caretaker manager or assistant elsewhere. I think we could get him here. And he has the ingredients to be worth a go. 

[GodlyOtsemobor 2,311]

50 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said:

 

 

1 hour ago, cambridgeshire canary said:

Yeah, he needs to go but who replaces him? Who's avaible? Warnock? Dear oh dear

Turn your nose up all you like but you can't say that he wouldn't grab this lot by the scruff of the neck and put a rocket up them. 

 

 

 

He's a very very successful manager at this level and still has the hunger. 

[Canary Wundaboy 1,359]

Even before the OG went in they were back in the game, when that goal went in and no subs came on the game was only going one way.

Was there much discontent from the stands at FT?

[Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,821]

3 minutes ago, BigGrantsTash said:

Not that I’d want him. He’s to passed it now and his time has gone. Still though it does make me laugh how people turn they’re nose up and ridicule him.

He’s one of the most successful managers in the history of this league. Nearly every player he’s managed speaks very highly of him. Nearly all the fans of his past clubs hold him in high regard. 

I guess his accent isn’t sexy and due to the fact he’s British and over 50 everyone presumes it’s all 442 and hoof it forward even though his teams don’t play like that.

Warnock still has it in short bursts. He worked another miracle at Huddersfield last season, but he's 75 in six weeks and can't seem handle more than a three-month firefighting role any more, which has been the case for a while now with him. 

I'm not advocating him as Wagner's successor, by the way, before anyone thinks it.

[Christoph Stiepermann 1,138]

No point changing manager until the new SD comes in and gets settled. If we sack Wagner before then it'll be Pelach who takes over and I don't think it helps our chances this season having the disruption and uncertainty of having a short term caretaker manager for a couple of months. It's only going to muddle things telling players to play Wagner's way, then Pelach's way for 5-10 games and then a new managers way through one season. Unless you're Watford it never works having that much disruption.

If he goes it won't be until around the new year when Knapper has come in and assessed the situation.

[GodlyOtsemobor 2,311]

Oh oh oh I know... 

It's Narcis Pelach isn't it. 

 

[BigGrantsTash 70]

Just now, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said:

Warnock still has it in short bursts. He worked another miracle at Huddersfield last season, but he's 75 in six weeks and can't seem handle more than a three-month firefighting role any more, which has been the case for a while now with him. 

I'm not advocating him as Wagner's successor, by the way, before anyone thinks it.

Oh yea I agree with everything your saying.

I remember when he was appointed manager at Cardiff. Some people on here said that’s them fudged and they’d hoof their way into league one. 
 

At the end of the season they got promoted!! We always turn our nose up at certain managers. But I agree his time is done and not what we need.

[Creedence Clearwater Couto 1,273]

He won’t be sacked while he has mitigation in the Sargent, Barnes and Sainz injuries.

[Canary Wundaboy 1,359]

We’re going to get absolutely creamed by Scum. That’ll put paid to Wagner.

[Capt. Pants 4,236]

4 minutes ago, GodlyOtsemobor said:

Oh oh oh I know... 

It's Narcis Pelach isn't it. 

 

Yes. The cheap option and arguably part of the problem already.

Well done Webber, farking shambles.