essex canary 497 Posted October 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, hogesar said: Bringing Springett on has to be close to a sackable offence inĀ itself. I dont particularly rate Onel but it meant we offered zero threat down one entire side of the pitch. I guess those who appointed Wagner or Dean Smith can't possibly be responsible or accountable for the ineptitude? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Top corner 228 Posted October 21, 2023 I was never confident even at 2-0, the defence has such a soft underbelly. I would like a change of management, but I can't see that happening until the new SD is in place.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S_81 803 Posted October 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Top corner said: I was never confident even at 2-0, the defence has such a soft underbelly. I would like a change of management, but I can't see that happening until the new SD is in place.Ā It will happen after Ipswich away. That result is only going one wayĀ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,780 Posted October 21, 2023 Webber will drag it out until the place is toxic again and we are too far to get anywhere.Ā Move quicker ffs.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FCC 76 Posted October 21, 2023 Surely the new Sporting Director knows some young coaches. I would rather have someone starting out who at least will learn and improve. This clown is hopeless, and thatās after Smith.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davidlingfield 63 Posted October 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Herman said: Webber will drag it out until the place is toxic again and we are too far to get anywhere.Ā Move quicker ffs.Ā The Webber parasites will take as much cash as they can before they are dragged away, unfortunately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S_81 803 Posted October 21, 2023 Just now, FCC said: Surely the new Sporting Director knows some young coaches. I would rather have someone starting out who at least will learn and improve. This clown is hopeless, and thatās after Smith.Ā Weāve got one at our club. At this point Iād rather take a punt on him than Wagner to be honestĀ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 1,776 Posted October 21, 2023 ...if there is any silver lining to this ,at least LeedsĀ are only 6 pts behind Ip****h. Theyre possibly the one club that I could back to be consistent enough to take the other spot with Leicester 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Disco Dales Jockstrap 1,894 Posted October 21, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Herman said: Webber will drag it out until the place is toxic again and we are too far to get anywhere.Ā Move quicker ffs.Ā Webber won't be going anywhere quicker than he has to and neither will Wagner. But I'm sure Webber will have one of his well thought out, constructive comments to make about the fans when either of them do finally vacate the building. OTBC Edited October 21, 2023 by Disco Dales Jockstrap reworded Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S_81 803 Posted October 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Disco Dales Jockstrap said: Unfortunately, Webber won't be going anywhere quicker than he has to.Ā And I'm sure he'll have one of his well thought out, constructive comments to make about the fans when heĀ finally does go... OTBC And the longer it goes to 5hit here - surely the fewer options he will have for his next move.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peregrine Shorts 315 Posted October 21, 2023 Awful in game management, substitutions seem to have been decided in training during the week. Ā get him gone 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highland Canary 76 Posted October 21, 2023 Relegation form and to think weāll have to wait until post December 16 before the inevitable change is made. What a fiasco. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baldy09 158 Posted October 21, 2023 The club not broken according a fan on Radio Norfolk- to me its seems we on our way-Ā poor signings - a poorĀ football director - who still here - Poor coach- giving Idah a 5 year contract the list goes on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 3,301 Posted October 21, 2023 We need to get a good coach who has worked with the new incoming SD, how aboutĀ Carlos Cuesta?Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S_81 803 Posted October 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Indy said: We need to get a good coach who has worked with the new incoming SD, how aboutĀ Carlos Cuesta?Ā Surely wouldnāt come here?Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,822 Posted October 21, 2023 36 minutes ago, hogesar said: Bringing Springett on has to be close to a sackable offence inĀ itself. I dont particularly rate Onel but it meant we offered zero threat down one entire side of the pitch. I couldn't believe it either. We had four wingers on the bench today, which shows how unbalanced the squad was left after the window, and I'd say Springett would've been the last of those four that I'd bring on.Ā As for Wagner in general, I'd still give him until the November international break, but unless we see an improvement in the four games until then, we'd certainly have to consider it. The game management today was **** poor; we played like we were 2-0 down in the second half, not 2-0 up.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigGrantsTash 70 Posted October 21, 2023 53 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said: Yeah, he needs to go but who replaces him? Who's avaible? Warnock? Dear oh dear Not that Iād want him. Heās to passed it now and his time has gone. Still though it does make me laugh how people turn theyāre nose up and ridicule him. Heās one of the most successful managers in the history of this league. Nearly every player heās managed speaks very highly of him. Nearly all the fans of his past clubs hold him in high regard.Ā I guess his accent isnāt sexy and due to the fact heās British and over 50 everyone presumes itās all 442 and hoof it forward even though his teams donāt play like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,822 Posted October 21, 2023 42 minutes ago, S_81 said: Lee Carsley is my shout. Would be a good complement to the new DoF when it comes to youth development too - which is the reality of what we are going to need under this model of short term contracts for old folkĀ Not a bad shout, actually. Seems a logical step from the England U21s,Ā as he's never going to be given the senior job. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S_81 803 Posted October 21, 2023 36 minutes ago, BroadstairsR said: There surely cannot be many supporters left who have retained faithĀ in this managerĀ to achieve a top six placeĀ even when he is able to call upon aĀ full strength squad. It is still October and I feel that the season has already drifted away too far. Sounds daft, but I have such little faith in the man. Our recent run has been terrible yet out comes the team sheet and out comes the usual line-up. We clearly have no Ā fit strikers of any worth yet the manager perseveres with them and seems incapable of even trialling other options up front. He's quite literally wasting the talents of one of the league's best players in front of our very eyes due to hisĀ manager's inflexibility and tactical ineptness. We will achieve nothing with this man in charge.Ā He just hasn't got it to the point of being the most frustratingĀ manager sinceĀ .... er?Ā Dean Smith. Therefore, we might as well dispose of Wagner simply becauseĀ there is nothing to lose and all to gain. I happenĀ toĀ believe that we have the talent to do much better than recent disasters. Agreed. And I thought that was also the point / benefit of a short, rolling, contract.Ā Ā But the club, and the few fans of Wagner left on here, will dismiss his overall stats and losing runs by hiding behind the easy start and the injuries and the fact that 6th is still within reach.Ā Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kenny Foggo 1,116 Posted October 21, 2023 45 minutes ago, Nexus_Canary said: And replace with who? Ā Liam Manning Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S_81 803 Posted October 21, 2023 Just now, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said: Not a bad shout, actually. Seems a logical step from the England U21s,Ā as he's never going to be given the senior job. And heās never been anything but a caretaker manager or assistant elsewhere. I think we could get him here. And he has the ingredients to be worth a go.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GodlyOtsemobor 2,327 Posted October 21, 2023 50 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said: Ā Ā 1 hour ago, cambridgeshire canary said: Yeah, he needs to go but who replaces him? Who's avaible? Warnock? Dear oh dear Turn your nose up all you like but you can't say that he wouldn't grab this lot by the scruff of the neck and put a rocket up them.Ā Ā Ā Ā He's a very very successful manager at this level and still has the hunger.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canary Wundaboy 1,359 Posted October 21, 2023 Even before the OG went in they were back in the game, when that goal went in and no subs came on the game was only going one way. Was there much discontent from the stands at FT? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,822 Posted October 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, BigGrantsTash said: Not that Iād want him. Heās to passed it now and his time has gone. Still though it does make me laugh how people turn theyāre nose up and ridicule him. Heās one of the most successful managers in the history of this league. Nearly every player heās managed speaks very highly of him. Nearly all the fans of his past clubs hold him in high regard.Ā I guess his accent isnāt sexy and due to the fact heās British and over 50 everyone presumes itās all 442 and hoof it forward even though his teams donāt play like that. Warnock still has it in short bursts. He worked another miracle at Huddersfield last season, but he's 75 in six weeks and can't seem handle more than a three-month firefighting role any more, which has been the case for a while now with him.Ā I'm not advocating him as Wagner's successor, by the way, before anyone thinks it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Christoph Stiepermann 1,138 Posted October 21, 2023 No point changing manager until the new SD comes in and gets settled. If we sack Wagner before then it'll be Pelach who takes over and I don't think it helps our chances this season having the disruption and uncertainty of having a short term caretaker manager for a couple of months. It's only going to muddle things telling players to play Wagner's way, then Pelach's way for 5-10 games and then a new managers way through one season. Unless you're Watford it never works having that much disruption. If he goes it won't be until around the new year when Knapper has come in and assessed the situation. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GodlyOtsemobor 2,327 Posted October 21, 2023 Oh oh oh I know...Ā It's Narcis Pelach isn't it.Ā Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigGrantsTash 70 Posted October 21, 2023 Just now, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said: Warnock still has it in short bursts. He worked another miracle at Huddersfield last season, but he's 75 in six weeks and can't seem handle more than a three-month firefighting role any more, which has been the case for a while now with him.Ā I'm not advocating him as Wagner's successor, by the way, before anyone thinks it. Oh yea I agree with everything your saying. I remember when he was appointed manager at Cardiff. Some people on here said thatās them fudged and theyād hoof their way into league one.Ā Ā At the end of the season they got promoted!! We always turn our nose up at certain managers. But I agree his time is done and not what we need. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creedence Clearwater Couto 1,288 Posted October 21, 2023 He wonāt be sacked while he has mitigation in the Sargent, Barnes and Sainz injuries. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canary Wundaboy 1,359 Posted October 21, 2023 Weāre going to get absolutely creamed by Scum. Thatāll put paid to Wagner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,250 Posted October 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, GodlyOtsemobor said: Oh oh oh I know...Ā It's Narcis Pelach isn't it.Ā Ā Yes. The cheap option and arguably part of the problem already. Well done Webber, farking shambles. Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites