A fish rots from the head

[hogesar 9,674]

6 minutes ago, By Hook or Ian crook said:

The only way Delia and Michael are letting this club go is it being prized from their fingers upon death sadly. 

I mean if you've read anything about MA involvement and what the shareholders are voting for, you would know thats simply not the case but I cba to argue on it. There's plenty of reading on here if you'd like.

6 minutes ago, Capt. Pants said:

This is a huge issue for me. Only Norwich could take so long.

Shareholders need to let go, stop whining over the price they'll get for their shares and get this over the bloody line.

 

We are a PLC which is slightly unusual - fans moaning about what say we have in the club and not having a voice (regularly critiqued whenever we've done badly with Webber) are going to be in for one big shock when eventually we're private and MA does whatever he wants whenever he wants.

[Davidlingfield 63]

14 minutes ago, hogesar said:

I mean if you've read anything about MA involvement and what the shareholders are voting for, you would know thats simply not the case but I cba to argue on it. There's plenty of reading on here if you'd like.

We are a PLC which is slightly unusual - fans moaning about what say we have in the club and not having a voice (regularly critiqued whenever we've done badly with Webber) are going to be in for one big shock when eventually we're private and MA does whatever he wants whenever he wants.

On the plus side, Attansio might run the Club in a professional manner with some level of governance.

[hogesar 9,674]

6 minutes ago, Davidlingfield said:

On the plus side, Attansio might run the Club in a professional manner with some level of governance.

Yes, he might. 

[Davidlingfield 63]

2 minutes ago, hogesar said:

Yes, he might. 

🤞🤞Fingers crossed.

Edited September 23, 2023 by Davidlingfield
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[Branston Pickle 3,659]

1 hour ago, hogesar said:

But it wasn't relevant after

Norwich 2 - 1 Hull?

Or Saints 4 - 4 Norwich?

Or QPR 0 - 1 Norwich?

Or Norwich 3 - 1 Millwall?

Or Norwich 1 - 0 Stoke?

It seems oddly convenient to forget to post about this sort of thing whenever we win. Almost like it's subjective and the OP doesn't have the courage.

Oh and conveniently ignores the fact we are going through the process of changing owners. And he then claims the new guy doesn't want to put money in. Even though he's already £40 million in.

As per usual, @Dean Coneys boots loves his little phrases but tends to ignore any facts that don't suit him.

It’s always a matter of time before such daft comments come out whenever we’re on a bad run. Predictable in the extreme and you can almost set your watch by it.

[City fan 78]

53 minutes ago, By Hook or Ian crook said:

The only way Delia and Michael are letting this club go is it being prized from their fingers upon death sadly. 

The books would have to be viewed if still alive 🤔

[Duncan Edwards 2,237]

A fish may rot from the head down but in the right hands a couple of fish and some bread can offer sustenance to thousands of people.

Perhaps it’s about not coveting what our neighbours and contemporaries have, but making the most of what we have. 

[Badger 2,405]

2 hours ago, Dean Coneys boots said:

Well Ipswich did- and Brentford- and Brighton and all other clubs who are less controlling etc 

Brighton and Brentford have rich fans as owners - care to suggest anyone you know who is happy to chip in a few tens of millions a years (if you know any Norwich fans).

I suspect that MA has already spent more than the Ipswich owners - not that I am wholly convinced yet. 

[S_81 795]

3 hours ago, Canary Wundaboy said:

Home atmosphere could be toxic if they play this bad next game. I was hoping that the Attanasio’s appearance meant that change was coming, but somehow they’re managing to draw the process out for another 3 years? We need change now.

Wouldn’t be surprised to see them walk away by that point. We could well be in league one 

[TIL 1010 4,748]

1 hour ago, Davidlingfield said:

He is £40 million in to prop up the wages and transfer fees already wasted by the now totally disengaged Sporting Director. There is nothing to show other than a squad of journeymen.

Absolutely. Webber is hanging around like a bad smell. Once he told D&M that he was leaving an exit stategy should have been implemented for him to go sharpish under our terms not his.

[Corbs1 89]

A transition to new owners seems quite sensible to me. Probably the way forward, but don’t let me get in the way of wallowing in self indulgent negativity cos we lost badly today. 

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

1 hour ago, Branston Pickle said:

It’s always a matter of time before such daft comments come out whenever we’re on a bad run. Predictable in the extreme and you can almost set your watch by it.

So tell us why we are borrowing of MA? On the back of £40M parachute money and the sale of Max and AO.

What is predictable is that you won't admit there is a major problem. Instead you just accuse other posters of being pathetic.

[Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB 1,024]

Ey up!!........Eeyore is back, it can mean only one thing............DEFEAT!!............

Edited September 23, 2023 by Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB

[nutty nigel 7,536]

4 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said:

So tell us why we are borrowing of MA? On the back of £40M parachute money and the sale of Max and AO.

What is predictable is that you won't admit there is a major problem. Instead you just accuse other posters of being pathetic.

I wish someone would tell us.

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

1 minute ago, nutty nigel said:

I wish someone would tell us.

Exactly. Where is the money going? Plymouth fans telling us they couldn't have afforded Mumba if we wanted £2M for him. Gibson gets that a season in wages and doesn't deserve it.

[nutty nigel 7,536]

3 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said:

Exactly. Where is the money going? Plymouth fans telling us they couldn't have afforded Mumba if we wanted £2M for him. Gibson gets that a season in wages and doesn't deserve it.

Thing is we know where the money goes and only want to sell our soul across the ocean in the hope that more money goes there.

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

5 minutes ago, nutty nigel said:

Thing is we know where the money goes and only want to sell our soul across the ocean in the hope that more money goes there.

I would rather keep my soul, buy players who cared even if its L1.

[nutty nigel 7,536]

48 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said:

I would rather keep my soul, buy players who cared even if its L1.

I don't know where you'd find players who care more than these. Emi was the best for years but he didn't care. Money controls our game to the greatest extent ever so it's no surprise it's what players and fans care about. It's really weird that in these times where there's such a need for money in the world we want more and more spent on footballers.

 

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

40 minutes ago, nutty nigel said:

I don't know where you'd find players who care more than these. Emi was the best for years but he didn't care. Money controls our game to the greatest extent ever so it's no surprise it's what players and fans care about. It's really weird that in these times where there's such a need for money in the world we want more and more spent on footballers.

 

I'm not sure about we Double N. Some do but most want a decent day out enjoying watching us put on a decent show and hopefully winning more than losing.

[nutty nigel 7,536]

1 minute ago, keelansgrandad said:

I'm not sure about we Double N. Some do but most want a decent day out enjoying watching us put on a decent show and hopefully winning more than losing.

Occasionally we finish in the top six. Less occasionally we get relegated. Mostly we finish mid table. Mid table usually includes expected wins and defeats and unexpected wins and defeats and you get those decent days out. Just not today. Shame for you that Huddersfield wasn't close like Plymouth.

[Kingston Yellow 220]

5 hours ago, hogesar said:

Why didn't you post this thread 4 games ago?

What a b3ll3nd.  Lots of us have been concerned for several years.  Meanwhile, planks like you have and continue to ridicule.

Edited September 23, 2023 by Kingston Yellow

[Unthink road 132]

12 minutes ago, nutty nigel said:

Occasionally we finish in the top six. Less occasionally we get relegated. Mostly we finish mid table. Mid table usually includes expected wins and defeats and unexpected wins and defeats and you get those decent days out. Just not today. Shame for you that Huddersfield wasn't close like Plymouth.

Nutty if MA takes control we will lose eventually trust me.

[nutty nigel 7,536]

Just now, Unthink road said:

Nutty if MA takes control we will lose eventually trust me.

I'm guessing it will be more of the same. I just hope we keep our identity in the City. As far as I'm concerned the end of fan ownership is a sad day. Especially if it's for more of the same.

[Big Vince 318]

5 hours ago, hogesar said:

But it wasn't relevant after

Norwich 2 - 1 Hull?

Or Saints 4 - 4 Norwich?

Or QPR 0 - 1 Norwich?

Or Norwich 3 - 1 Millwall?

Or Norwich 1 - 0 Stoke?

It seems oddly convenient to forget to post about this sort of thing whenever we win. Almost like it's subjective and the OP doesn't have the courage.

Oh and conveniently ignores the fact we are going through the process of changing owners. And he then claims the new guy doesn't want to put money in. Even though he's already £40 million in.

As per usual, @Dean Coneys boots loves his little phrases but tends to ignore any facts that don't suit him.

The most obvious fact is the Socialists haven't moved the club forward, even after having 27 years to do so. They found the club in this league and in this league it remains.

[Capt. Pants 4,234]

Well we are well on the way to a takeover, we just need shareholders to vote it through and we have Delia and MA at 40/40. Then we have up to another 3 years until DS and MWJ finally let go.

If the unthinkable happens and they don't vote in favour of the waiver we could be in a very precarious situation with more players having to be sold.

That's not all the problem though, today we were smashed out of sight by a League One team barely able to afford Bali Mumba.

[Unthink road 132]

1 minute ago, nutty nigel said:

I'm guessing it will be more of the same. I just hope we keep our identity in the City. As far as I'm concerned the end of fan ownership is a sad day. Especially if it's for more of the same.

Totally agree. I prefer the status quo. Better football decisions, with guidance. Webber gone and a stalwart DOF. I know exactly who would take the role but I doubt it would evolve. 

 

[Unthink road 132]

2 minutes ago, Big Vince said:

The most obvious fact is the Socialists haven't moved the club forward, even after having 27 years to do so. They found the club in this league and in this league it remains.

Love your passion Big Vincent and I agree with some of your points, but we are in the same position with the same llevels of debt. But in this time we have seen more billionai owners over more clubs , so where do we fit. It's always down to recruitment and coaching. 

[nutty nigel 7,536]

1 minute ago, Unthink road said:

Totally agree. I prefer the status quo. Better football decisions, with guidance. Webber gone and a stalwart DOF. I know exactly who would take the role but I doubt it would evolve. 

 

Probably having two to sack muddies the waters. I can't make my mind up if the players are good enough to win most weeks and the coach can't get that from them. Or the players aren't good enough so it's Webber's fault we don't win most weeks so we should get rid of him and keep the coach

Perhaps winning most weeks is beyond Delia and Michael but Marky Mark will win most weeks. 

[Midlands Yellow 3,985]

2 minutes ago, nutty nigel said:

Probably having two to sack muddies the waters. I can't make my mind up if the players are good enough to win most weeks and the coach can't get that from them. Or the players aren't good enough so it's Webber's fault we don't win most weeks so we should get rid of him and keep the coach

Perhaps winning most weeks is beyond Delia and Michael but Marky Mark will win most weeks. 

Marky Mark? Why ridicule him before you see how he might improve us. 

[Unthink road 132]

2 minutes ago, nutty nigel said:

Probably having two to sack muddies the waters. I can't make my mind up if the players are good enough to win most weeks and the coach can't get that from them. Or the players aren't good enough so it's Webber's fault we don't win most weeks so we should get rid of him and keep the coach

Perhaps winning most weeks is beyond Delia and Michael but Marky Mark will win most weeks. 

I'm with you. What is the current problem? I speak to someone who is very knowledgeable in the game. He feels it's a DOF problem due to cohesive issues with coaching team. In essence the DOF is not a football man. What I would hate is a club with no sole.