dylanisabaddog 5,019 Posted July 23, 2023 1 hour ago, king canary said: Root is right about cricket needing to evolve its rules. There is no need to stick to resolutely stick to 11am starts at 7pk finishes if the light and weather allows it. Play until 90 overs are done as it's supposed to be. Also need to look at reserve days or similar. Watching on the the biggest prizes in test cricket get decided by weather forecasts is the kind of thing that'll put potential new fans of the sport off. Yes! It beggars belief that a 5 day game can end like this. Add an extra day for rain and unbowled overs. We need to attract people to Test cricket, not put them off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canary73 167 Posted July 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, dylanisabaddog said: Yes! It beggars belief that a 5 day game can end like this. Add an extra day for rain and unbowled overs. We need to attract people to Test cricket, not put them off. Asking Cricket to evolve (especially at international level) is always a big ask. The ICC are pretty weak when it comes to change, rule enforcement etc. If there is £££ involved its a different story. Too much is put for the shorter formats/franchise and Test Matches play second fiddle. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canary73 167 Posted July 23, 2023 No surprise though - this should have been called off hours ago Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Hairy 3,782 Posted July 23, 2023 1 hour ago, dylanisabaddog said: Yes! It beggars belief that a 5 day game can end like this. Add an extra day for rain and unbowled overs. We need to attract people to Test cricket, not put them off. Agree, weather is sunny at OT tomorrow, just play the last sodding day then. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daz Sparks 1,189 Posted July 23, 2023 5 hours ago, dylanisabaddog said: Yes! It beggars belief that a 5 day game can end like this. Add an extra day for rain and unbowled overs. We need to attract people to Test cricket, not put them off. It also beggars belief that a weather dependent sport with a fixed schedule is planned to be played in frickin' Manchester FFS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ron obvious 1,514 Posted July 23, 2023 Watching the weather radar, a sogging great cloud hung over Old Trafford all day. I suspect Australia have made some sort of pact with the King of Misrule ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canary Wundaboy 1,360 Posted July 24, 2023 Just gotta stuff them at the Oval to prove a point. Lucky Aussies saved by the rain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,698 Posted July 24, 2023 We’ve only got ourselves to blame for being behind - a stupid declaration cost us the game at Edgbaston, we were out-thought at Lord’s but we should be 1-1 at worst. But we can draw the series so should head to the Oval wanting the win. I don’t hold much store by this having to win to ‘win it back’ - a series halved means we didn’t lose and from here that is the key thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert N. LiM 4,545 Posted July 24, 2023 21 hours ago, Canary73 said: No surprise though - this should have been called off hours ago No surprise to see Jonathan Agnew longing for the end of play. He's got to the point where he just doesn't like cricket any more. He's become the Mark Lawrenson of cricket. Listening to him moan his way though the BBC highlights as England play their most exciting cricket for years is just soul-destroying. The BBC needs to pension him off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gordon Bennett 794 Posted July 24, 2023 3 hours ago, Branston Pickle said: We’ve only got ourselves to blame for being behind - a stupid declaration cost us the game at Edgbaston, we were out-thought at Lord’s but we should be 1-1 at worst. But we can draw the series so should head to the Oval wanting the win. I don’t hold much store by this having to win to ‘win it back’ - a series halved means we didn’t lose and from here that is the key thing. I'd take issue with that, while unorthodox I thought the idea behind the declaration was good. We lost that test because of dropped catches and the inability to clear up the Aussie tail. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 4,107 Posted July 27, 2023 Australia win the toss, England to bat first. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB 1,042 Posted July 27, 2023 Weather forecast for the Oval over the coming days is not good............. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 4,107 Posted July 27, 2023 16 minutes ago, Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB said: Weather forecast for the Oval over the coming days is not good............. Have to score quickly (as we are already) and then fire them out cheaply first innings. The draw is trading at 4/1, massive price when you check the weather forecasts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canary73 167 Posted July 27, 2023 Scramble to 250 then get them in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Holt 522 Posted July 27, 2023 Harry Brook is getting a hundred. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Holt 522 Posted July 27, 2023 (edited) Good toss to win. Plenty of time for a result with the forecast - looks positively glorious compared to OT. 350 a match winning score. No county team has scored over 400 and there have only been three hundreds at The Oval this season - two against the Kookaburra which does far less than the Dukes. Australia not catching well for a change. Probably can't believe the amount of chances they're getting. Edited July 27, 2023 by Captain Holt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyneton Canary 9 Posted July 27, 2023 More than likely the last Test in England for Warner, Uzi and Smith. I can feel a lot of runs coming from them. Smith averages 91 at The Oval. We haven't won a series in England for yonks so it's all there to play for, and a sneaky win would make retaining the Ashes even sweeter. That said, Warner is rubbish and I look forward to him no longer wearing a Baggy Green. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,865 Posted July 27, 2023 23 minutes ago, Keyneton Canary said: That said, Warner is rubbish and I look forward to him no longer wearing a Baggy Green. He's also an absolute **** of epic proportions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,698 Posted July 27, 2023 6 hours ago, Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB said: Weather forecast for the Oval over the coming days is not good............. It’s not that bad - bits and bobs of rain about, there’s plenty of time for Monday to improve (or get worse!). We’re about 9 miles away, has been fairly gloomy all day today, definitely good bowling conditions….we don’t seem to be making the most of it atm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank shoots Skyler 2,094 Posted July 28, 2023 Australia batting 😴😴😴😴 We’d have been on at least 200 runs by now. Maybe 7 wickets down but still. And maybe also Australia are going to win the series but still. We’ll always have our style of play to cling on to. We’re on top for this spell, but we need a few to fall very soon, especially if the weather is going to have a say. Definitely feels like the levelling win is slipping away… The series overall reminds me a little of when we were 20th in the prem but still getting lots of plaudits in Farke’s first prem season. ‘Best PL team in 20th ever’. Not really anywhere near as good as actually not being in a **** league position but at least something positive, right? Although probably a few more positives to take from this test series than Norwich 19/20. Just so many ‘what ifs’… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fen Canary 874 Posted July 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, Hank shoots Skyler said: Australia batting 😴😴😴😴 We’d have been on at least 200 runs by now. Maybe 7 wickets down but still. And maybe also Australia are going to win the series but still. We’ll always have our style of play to cling on to. We’re on top for this spell, but we need a few to fall very soon, especially if the weather is going to have a say. Definitely feels like the levelling win is slipping away… The series overall reminds me a little of when we were 20th in the prem but still getting lots of plaudits in Farke’s first prem season. ‘Best PL team in 20th ever’. Not really anywhere near as good as actually not being in a **** league position but at least something positive, right? Although probably a few more positives to take from this test series than Norwich 19/20. Just so many ‘what ifs’… It’s annoying, as to me England have been the better side in 3 out of the 4 previous tests. Some poor catching cost us the first test, and the weather cost us the fourth. Even this morning the ball has sailed past the edge numerous times without finding it. With no spinner to hold an end up to give the quicks a rest I can see Aus coming away with a decent first innings lead Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,698 Posted July 28, 2023 Rather attritional stuff so far - 30 runs in 90 mins, but at least we’ve got a wicket at long last….despite Bairstow leaving one that was clearly his. One decent catch in a series does not make a keeper!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 4,107 Posted July 28, 2023 2 more wickets before lunch please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank shoots Skyler 2,094 Posted July 28, 2023 20 minutes ago, Fen Canary said: It’s annoying, as to me England have been the better side in 3 out of the 4 previous tests. Some poor catching cost us the first test, and the weather cost us the fourth. Even this morning the ball has sailed past the edge numerous times without finding it. With no spinner to hold an end up to give the quicks a rest I can see Aus coming away with a decent first innings lead Yep agreed, feels like a straight swap for Foakes and Bairstow from the start would’ve seen us there in the first test, and given ourselves a better chance in the second although that was easily the poorest overall performance. I’m not sure what the stats exactly are, but could we end the series with a 1-3 loss despite collecting more runs and more wickets? Unfortunately the fine margins haven’t gone our way! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank shoots Skyler 2,094 Posted July 28, 2023 Get in! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,698 Posted July 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hank shoots Skyler said: Get in! Is Broad going to have one of those spells… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,838 Posted July 28, 2023 That's better after that first, tiresome, session.👍 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,411 Posted July 28, 2023 Cmon, get into em Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,698 Posted July 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Herman said: That's better after that first, tiresome, session.👍 It really was pretty bad - the sort of session that explains why test cricket is struggling elsewhere. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
