Promotion needed

[mr footy 36]

We need to get promoted for mainly financial reasons rather than football reasons.Our skill set and tactical awaness will not improve in prem but money will come in.We need to go up for this reason 

[cambridgeshire canary 6,762]

Boy, can't wait to get battered 5-0 every match

[wcorkcanary 4,336]

2 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said:

Boy, can't wait to get battered 5-0 every match

I am willing to wager €100, that should we get promoted we wont concede 190 goals without reply.  Stupid boy. 

Edited April 9, 2023 by wcorkcanary

[cambridgeshire canary 6,762]

2 minutes ago, wcorkcanary said:

I am willing to wager €100, that should we get promoted we wont concede 190 goals without reply.  Stupid boy. 

Obviously not, it's called hyperbole for comedic affect 😉

[wcorkcanary 4,336]

1 minute ago, cambridgeshire canary said:

Obviously not, it's called hyperbole for comedic affect 😉

Why is an inane comment funny then ? 

[lake district canary 4,540]

I'm not comfortable to think we have to go up for financial reasons. That is not what sport is about. If we stay down, be it for two or three seasons or more, we can develop the team and squad for however long we need to. Yes, we lose parachute payments along the way, but football should always be the main focus. 

Money is important, but it isn't the be all and end all. Football is what matters and the pressure to get promoted should not be a financial one. Sport is what matters, not money. 

[cambridgeshire canary 6,762]

3 minutes ago, wcorkcanary said:

Why is an inane comment funny then ? 

Beacause you've not had your morning coffee yet 😇

[yellowrider120 767]

16 minutes ago, lake district canary said:

I'm not comfortable to think we have to go up for financial reasons. That is not what sport is about. If we stay down, be it for two or three seasons or more, we can develop the team and squad for however long we need to. Yes, we lose parachute payments along the way, but football should always be the main focus. 

Money is important, but it isn't the be all and end all. Football is what matters and the pressure to get promoted should not be a financial one. Sport is what matters, not money. 

Agree 100%. 'Money' is the only motivational factor from the club this season as despite Webbers arrogance when he arrived concerning the 'previous regime' he has himself 'pissed money up the wall' so much so that we are on the verge of serious financial problems unless of course Mr Atannasio bails us out. A friend of mine met N Adams at the new cafe in John Doe furniture store in Diss a couple of months ago. A brief conversation ensued and N Adams repeated that.........'we have to get promotion for financial reasons'   

[wcorkcanary 4,336]

19 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said:

Beacause you've not had your morning coffee yet 😇

I dont drink coffee in order to have activity in my brain. ... feed it correctly  and it works just fine without stimulants.  Coffee is just an salve for poor mental hygene . Facking Muppets walking round town *, phone in one hand, over priced shoiteinacup in the other.  " oooh i can't function without my coffee " ...FFS !! 

* back bedroom at mums house for CC.

Edited April 9, 2023 by wcorkcanary

[Monty13 2,239]

1 hour ago, lake district canary said:

I'm not comfortable to think we have to go up for financial reasons. That is not what sport is about. If we stay down, be it for two or three seasons or more, we can develop the team and squad for however long we need to. Yes, we lose parachute payments along the way, but football should always be the main focus. 

Money is important, but it isn't the be all and end all. Football is what matters and the pressure to get promoted should not be a financial one. Sport is what matters, not money. 

It is extremely hard to develop football teams without money.

Yo-yo was always the plan to develop the squad, it just hasn’t happened for multiple reasons. This should have been our strongest year so far.

The idea the squad will get better in the Championship with less money is fanciful. Football improvement requires money, it’s not what matters, but it’s an unfortunate reality.

[The Raptor 1,227]

49 minutes ago, yellowrider120 said:

t. A friend of mine met N Adams at the new cafe in John Doe furniture store in Diss a couple of months ago. A brief conversation ensued and N Adams repeated that.........'we have to get promotion for financial reasons'   

Complete side track but next time tell them to meet at the Ampersand brewery opposite l. Great beers and tasty burgers. I'd highly recommend it.

[The Bunny 314]

Those suggesting they don't want to see us promoted should be careful what they wish for. 

If we don't get promoted we'll be in a difficult position financially. The final parachute payments are already spent, and there will be no funds to support the squad rebuild which is clearly needed. The club's trajectory will be very much one way, and there is no guarantee we'll be able to address that any time soon without major investment.

[DraytonBoy 159]

Given the strength of the teams at the bottom of the PL promotion is going to be much harder from next season so going up next month could be last chance for a while.

[Robornio 107]

Although I get the financial bonuses, if we’re not properly set up as a squad to at least compete (spoiler alert: we’re really not at present), then there really is no point getting promoted. I’m hoping that our next wave of youth players contributes to at least one ‘Aaron’s-calibre’ player and we make some quality signings in the summer, so we’re a much better team and have depth for the next season.

Put it this way, Burnley have spanked the league and did the double over us, but may still struggle next year. We’re nowhere near them at present. That says all you need to know.

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

3 hours ago, wcorkcanary said:

I am willing to wager €100, that should we get promoted we wont concede 190 goals without reply.  Stupid boy. 

Come on Corkie, admit you needed a calculator.

[wcorkcanary 4,336]

1 minute ago, keelansgrandad said:

Come on Corkie, admit you needed a calculator.

Got me there, i initially wrote 1900 goals but decided  190 was enough hyperbole.  Hence edit but fortunately  no calc required . Now Xg over 38 games would be a different matter altogether. 

[TheBaldOne66 694]

2 hours ago, Monty13 said:

It is extremely hard to develop football teams without money.

Yo-yo was always the plan to develop the squad, it just hasn’t happened for multiple reasons. This should have been our strongest year so far.

The idea the squad will get better in the Championship with less money is fanciful. Football improvement requires money, it’s not what matters, but it’s an unfortunate reality.

No there is only one reason we haven’t developed the team, he’s called Stuart Webber and he buys crap footballers who don’t fit the style we played! 

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

Money? 

A Saudi team offered Messi £400M a season to go and play there. 

Let them have whatever they want and let them get on with it.

[Capt. Pants 4,269]

Assuming we don't go up, the focus will be on doing better than the Binners.

A prolonged spell in the Championship will be pretty disastrous financially and seeing players the quality of Buendia and Pukki again will be extremely unlikely.

Unless of course our new owner piles money into the club, and he'll need to.

Edited April 9, 2023 by Capt. Pants

[Hucks6 169]

4 hours ago, mr footy said:

We need to get promoted for mainly financial reasons rather than football reasons.Our skill set and tactical awaness will not improve in prem but money will come in.We need to go up for this reason 

Go and support them lot down the A140 then

[hogesar 9,711]

1 hour ago, Robornio said:

Although I get the financial bonuses, if we’re not properly set up as a squad to at least compete (spoiler alert: we’re really not at present), then there really is no point getting promoted. I’m hoping that our next wave of youth players contributes to at least one ‘Aaron’s-calibre’ player and we make some quality signings in the summer, so we’re a much better team and have depth for the next season.

Put it this way, Burnley have spanked the league and did the double over us, but may still struggle next year. We’re nowhere near them at present. That says all you need to know.

I dont get this argument.

Very rarely is a promoted team ready for the Prem. We broke our own records and won the title at a canter two seasons ago but the squad still wasn't ready.

You need some really astute business and a huge slice of luck just to stand a chance upon promotion. But that's only possible if you get promoted in the first place.

I'd love us to get promoted because it means we've witnessed an incredible end to the season with a win at Wembley. Football is all about moments and memories and the opportunity to watch Norwich at Wembley with family / friends isn't something I take particularly lightly.

[hogesar 9,711]

14 minutes ago, Capt. Pants said:

Assuming we don't go up, the focus will be on doing better than the Binners.

A prolonged spell in the Championship will be pretty disastrous financially and seeing players the quality of Buendia and Pukki again will be extremely unlikely.

Unless of course our new owner piles money into the club, anx he'll need to.

We didn't have money when we recruited those 2 named players though. 

[percy varco 199]

Promotion for money reasons. Attitude just as before. 
What about being brave and wanting promotion so that we can better ourselves in a premium league rather than accumulating a few quid we can waste on injured players and hopeful prospects that aren’t good enough for the Premier League. 

[mr footy 36]

5 hours ago, lake district canary said:

I'm not comfortable to think we have to go up for financial reasons. That is not what sport is about. If we stay down, be it for two or three seasons or more, we can develop the team and squad for however long we need to. Yes, we lose parachute payments along the way, but football should always be the main focus. 

Money is important, but it isn't the be all and end all. Football is what matters and the pressure to get promoted should not be a financial one. Sport is what matters, not money. 

I agree ,it should be but at this level it is not .We as a club have only six different ways  of income.almost all of the current premium teams have seven .Therefore it is vital we gain promotion. 

[nutty nigel 7,555]

3 hours ago, hogesar said:

We didn't have money when we recruited those 2 named players though. 

Not helpful...

Edited April 9, 2023 by nutty nigel
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[BroadstairsR 2,192]

The idea of redeveloping during a few loss making seasons in the Chumps is not as straight forward as some seem to think. We are just as likely, if not more likely, to stagnate and become mid-table regulars, imo, and then with ever diminishing crowds we could find ourselves sinking in a quicksand of mediocrity or worse.

Of course, our two main hopes of avoiding this fate, should we fail this season, rest with that knight in shining armour across the Atlantic and our Category 1. Academy.

The snag is that we need  Anattasio to be generous with that horrible money stuff, and also the academy needs quite a lot of it to thrive and produce the youth fundamental to such a rebuild. Grrr.

NCFC is a business not a charity.  All businesses need to maximise income sources wherever possible or feasible and not satiate the fantasies of those who, in footballing terms, have a Corinthian-Casuals*** mindset.

*** Sponsored by Specsavers, btw.

 

Edited April 9, 2023 by BroadstairsR

[shefcanary 2,437]

Assume not promoted. Sell Sara, £25m. Sell Rashica, £5m. Maddison on-sale £5m. Another couple of sales £5m. For a Championship team, £40m if spent well should be enough to recruit players to get us up (witness Burnley this season). 

Assume promoted; well Webber has already borrowed forward against broadcast income, he'll repeat this but again he needs to spend that money well.

Common issue? Can Webber be trusted? 🤷‍♂️

Edited April 9, 2023 by shefcanary

[PockthorpePete 331]

5 hours ago, Robornio said:

Although I get the financial bonuses, if we’re not properly set up as a squad to at least compete (spoiler alert: we’re really not at present), then there really is no point getting promoted. I’m hoping that our next wave of youth players contributes to at least one ‘Aaron’s-calibre’ player and we make some quality signings in the summer, so we’re a much better team and have depth for the next season.

Put it this way, Burnley have spanked the league and did the double over us, but may still struggle next year. We’re nowhere near them at present. That says all you need to know.

That makes no sense whatsoever. Firstly we will certainly lose a few. The likes of Aarons, Sara, Gunn could well be tempted away by the level of wages...... we could match if we were in the PL. PL money would allow us to bring in the quality we need, and give us a few million for a couple of more (three?) years after, if relegated.

Secondly the problem we face is not that money does not buy success. But the amount those outside the top eight have does not. It is the players signed, who have not been up to it. Why, well that's another argument. But that can never be a reason for not wanting the team to be as successful as possible. It is about 'wanting to win'. Something Lambert and Farke were able to install in the squad. Why that momentum could not be continued is a complex question and answer. As I have said, if it was as easy as many on here think then Webber would be at one of those top eight clubs.  Fridays game showed we do have it, but not consistently. Maybe with the injuries before and on the day it gave us that 'underdog fight'. Backs to the wall stuff. The fight we had when we regularly scored late goals, and always looked like we could.

And for those around in '59, was there any talk then of the supporters not wanting to get to Wembley..... in case the team got beaten?

[nutty nigel 7,555]

So it's off to hell in a handcart once again.

This happens every few seasons.

But don't lose heart...

This hell is never as bad than the years where we get to the promised land.

Happy Easter.

Edited April 9, 2023 by nutty nigel
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[Canary Jedi 582]

9 hours ago, Robornio said:

Although I get the financial bonuses, if we’re not properly set up as a squad to at least compete (spoiler alert: we’re really not at present), then there really is no point getting promoted.

You get the financial bonuses? You lucky ba$tard!