city4eva 209 Posted November 25, 2022 Great news. Good job that multiple managers don’t listen to the haters on here 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unthink road 132 Posted November 25, 2022 Fair enough. We all see things different. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,674 Posted November 25, 2022 1 hour ago, GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary said: True...if you mean he's a 6 out of 10 for everything A reward for mediocrity Ha cry more Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 1,759 Posted November 25, 2022 36 minutes ago, hogesar said: Ha cry more None of us win from this...if this is our ambition and standard, we're going nowhere 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 3,985 Posted November 25, 2022 To give him that length of contract suggests the hierarchy are not too confident of promotion this season. Kenny in the top league as a regular guarantees relegation. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canario 205 Posted November 25, 2022 Always thought him a poor man's Howson. He generally a solid 6/7 out of 10 but never does enough to stand out. Flip side of course is he's never that bad. Probably a no brainer really. Increased fee if he goes to Rangers, solid enough squad player if not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 1,759 Posted November 25, 2022 24 minutes ago, Midlands Yellow said: To give him that length of contract suggests the hierarchy are not too confident of promotion this season. Kenny in the top league as a regular guarantees relegation. ...this season it also guarantees top 2 is out of the window and top 6 is in serious jeopardy 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,659 Posted November 25, 2022 It’s definitely good news. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
City 101 83 Posted November 25, 2022 Clubs given up on promotion like most of the fans then . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,674 Posted November 25, 2022 If only England had won, then it could have been a Carlsberg day... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real Buh 3,432 Posted November 26, 2022 …..great….. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 5,940 Posted November 26, 2022 10 hours ago, hogesar said: If only England had won, then it could have been a Carlsberg day... Probably. Thought USA edged it, to be honest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 4,748 Posted November 26, 2022 Mixed feelings about this, competent at Championship level and a good club servant to have around at this level but not good enough for the Premier so not too sure what message this sends out regarding our aspirations for next season. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unthink road 132 Posted November 26, 2022 9 minutes ago, TIL 1010 said: Mixed feelings about this, competent at Championship level and a good club servant to have around at this level but not good enough for the Premier so not too sure what message this sends out regarding our aspirations for next season. Don't feel this is any indication of where club wants to be or what expectations are. Just means we will get a fee for Kenny if sold. I think he's a good player, one of the best we have. This doesn't mean I wouldn't sell him if the right deal and upgrade were available. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,234 Posted November 26, 2022 Unfortunately being able to sign Premier League quality players whilst in the Championship is not particularly easy, and if it were all the league would be doing it. I would imagine that if we don't get promoted then we'll need a replacement for Hayden, so it makes sense not to have to be looking for a replacement for Kenny as well. Kenny is effectively a free transfer and a good bit of business at that. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kenny Foggo 1,116 Posted November 26, 2022 Looking forward to more 6/10 performances. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 1,759 Posted November 26, 2022 McLean is part of the problem not the solution...and anyone who thinks he's part of the solution is also part of the problem.....i.e Dean Smith , An extra year to protect whatever value he has , possibly?....but 2 years with a further option of a year? If he's he's still seen as a first choice midfielder, to the extent that they dont envisage having to improve upon him in the midfield dept , it is a major failure in our recruitment. There are some eho seem to think he's been one of our better midfielders this season?....I dont agree with that but even if he was , its proving to not be good enough...and McLean isnt going to get any better The solution isnt to reward that mediocrity , it is to improve the recruitment/coaching in that department 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 5,164 Posted November 26, 2022 Players have been signing contracts for years and people still don't understand the purpose of the length of the deal, maybe the permanently disgruntled just want another thing to moan about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,659 Posted November 26, 2022 8 minutes ago, Capt. Pants said: Unfortunately being able to sign Premier League quality players whilst in the Championship is not particularly easy, and if it were all the league would be doing it. I would imagine that if we don't get promoted then we'll need a replacement for Hayden, so it makes sense not to have to be looking for a replacement for Kenny as well. Kenny is effectively a free transfer and a good bit of business at that. Exactly - the fact that some can’t see this says more about them than they realise. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,674 Posted November 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary said: McLean is part of the problem not the solution...and anyone who thinks he's part of the solution is also part of the problem.....i.e Dean Smith , An extra year to protect whatever value he has , possibly?....but 2 years with a further option of a year? If he's he's still seen as a first choice midfielder, to the extent that they dont envisage having to improve upon him in the midfield dept , it is a major failure in our recruitment. There are some eho seem to think he's been one of our better midfielders this season?....I dont agree with that but even if he was , its proving to not be good enough...and McLean isnt going to get any better The solution isnt to reward that mediocrity , it is to improve the recruitment/coaching in that department He is still going 😅😅😅😅 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 5,940 Posted November 26, 2022 He's a decent fringe player to have around. If he's happy with that - and if upgrades come in, then it's a very canny piece of business. Not to mention, it stops him from being poached on a free. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,659 Posted November 26, 2022 Thing is this sends a signal - players are happy here and happy to stay/not looking to leave. That helps to stop talk of an unsettled camp. Obviously better news would be Teemu and Todd signing a year extension, but it’s a start. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert N. LiM 4,356 Posted November 26, 2022 Great news. They should make him captain. Would pay for his salary in clicks to this thread 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 1,759 Posted November 26, 2022 10 minutes ago, Branston Pickle said: Exactly - the fact that some can’t see this says more about them than they realise. Too many have become institutionalized when it comes to McLean It isnt a case of McLean or no one...there are better players out there, we can sign better even at championship level. Theres a whole footballing world out there Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,674 Posted November 26, 2022 1 minute ago, GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary said: Too many have become institutionalized when it comes to McLean It isnt a case of McLean or no one...there are better players out there, we can sign better even at championship level. Theres a whole footballing world out there The irony here is you're completely right but... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 1,759 Posted November 26, 2022 8 minutes ago, TheGunnShow said: He's a decent fringe player to have around. If he's happy with that - and if upgrades come in, then it's a very canny piece of business. Not to mention, it stops him from being poached on a free. Problem is it appears we have a manager who sees him as more than a fringe player. This will be one of the contributory factors that costs him his job over the next 6 wks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danke bitte 965 Posted November 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, Branston Pickle said: Thing is this sends a signal - players are happy here and happy to stay/not looking to leave. That helps to stop talk of an unsettled camp. Obviously better news would be Teemu and Todd signing a year extension, but it’s a start. I’ve had a chat with my mate that touches on the Todd and Teemu contract point. As well as Krul, Hanley and McLean which comprises of the spine of the team. We both said we feel we need some new impetus and fresh perspectives, Bailey mentioned something similar in that article summertime how there is a “losing mentality” or inferiority complex kicking around the squad. But new impetus costs £ and Smith really should be getting more of a tune out of his squad than he has. Is it the players or Smith? Jury’s out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,674 Posted November 26, 2022 13 minutes ago, TheGunnShow said: He's a decent fringe player to have around. If he's happy with that - and if upgrades come in, then it's a very canny piece of business. Not to mention, it stops him from being poached on a free. He is a fringe / bench player / reserve at Prem level but in the championship he's a regular starter and both Smith and Farke have deemed that the right call. Farke also backed that decision up with two titles. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Feedthewolf 4,846 Posted November 26, 2022 16 hours ago, Capt. Pants said: Every team needs a player like Kenny McLean in the Championship. No, he's probably not EPL quality but not many of our squad are. In fact there's probably only a handful in the entire league, but it's a really high bar. There's certainly an argument the club should have recruited better last season but that's not Kenny's fault. He's a manager's dream because he does what he's asked to whether it's AM, DM or even LB. Spot on. He's spent most of this season playing DM or LB, neither of which particularly suit his skill set, but he's done reasonably at DM and way above expectations at LB. If Hayden stays fit then I expect Kenny to flourish in the second half of the season, and I'm glad to see him sign an extension. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creedence Clearwater Couto 1,273 Posted November 26, 2022 59 minutes ago, Kenny Foggo said: Looking forward to more 6/10 performances. Optimistic. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites