Redders Right Foot 22 Posted November 26, 2012 a friend posted a link to my facebook to a saints forum where they''re discussing the wednesday game. it has all the usual boring stuff, underestimating the opposition, predicting rediculous scorelines, etc etc, but one thing that caught my eye was I''ve already been told off by the wife for predicting Saints will win this one. I''m a bigger Saints fan than she is a Norwich fan though, so sod her, Saints to win 2-0. (Though to prevent frostiness in house, I''ll be saying draw.)"...Lallana, Lambert, Ramirez, Puncheon. That''s a better attacking four than they can boast. (...and most teams in the bottom half of the table IMO.)"would anyone on this site take any of those players (to be fair I wouldn''t mind lambert) over our current starting four attackers (Pilks, hoolahan, snoddy, holt.)? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redders Right Foot 22 Posted November 26, 2012 http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?41449-Saints-vs-Norwich-build-upI always forget to add the link. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
York Canary 28 Posted November 26, 2012 They''re all good players. I''d take Ramirez without a doubt. Class player and stunned when they got him. He''s the main one I''d have here. We need to stay close to those 4 and really suffocate them with Tettey and Johnson and then release to our front 4 and kill them. Would love it if Ruddy makes a comeback. Their keeper looks prone to the odd mistake and not particularly experienced..hopefully take advantage of that. If we can keep them quiet for the first half at least then I''ll feel quietly confident Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ROBFLECK 132 Posted November 26, 2012 Lallana is class imo. I''ve always rated him. So I would choose him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yorkshire Canary 118 Posted November 26, 2012 Lallana and Lambert would get in our team/squad. saints have scored 20 in league to our 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djc 0 Posted November 26, 2012 In fairness, van Persie, Rooney, Hernandez and Young are 4 half-decent forwards in this league - and they didnt do too much at Carra recently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul moy 235 Posted November 26, 2012 [quote user="djc"]In fairness, van Persie, Rooney, Hernandez and Young are 4 half-decent forwards in this league - and they didnt do too much at Carra recently.[/quote]... especially as Rooney didn''t play !!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,585 Posted November 26, 2012 [quote user="paul moy"][quote user="djc"]In fairness, van Persie, Rooney, Hernandez and Young are 4 half-decent forwards in this league - and they didnt do too much at Carra recently.[/quote]... especially as Rooney didn''t play !!! [/quote] Right on Moyo, great spot buddy! Without Rooney Man Utd''s forwards are no better than Saints. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adycakes 5 Posted November 26, 2012 I have to be honest, most of what is written on there is quite respectful & not disrespectful in any way. Most seem to think the odd goal will win it or be very happy with a draw as I think we will be in fairness.As for their front line, yes Ramirez is class & I also rate Lambert but the other two the jury is still out for me.I''m not saying our forward line is better, I still think Snodgrass has to do a bit more & Pilkington is currently going missing for long periods in games. But I wouldn''t change either of those for Lallana or Puncheon. Not saying they''re bad players, just think Snodgrass & Pilkington for me have a little bit more about them but maybe at the present time are not firing on all cylinders. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellowbeagle 0 Posted November 26, 2012 I think it''s difficult to assess the Southampton forward line, if they stay up it''ll be much more obvious who has the geniune talent for this level next season as there''s an element of surprise in your first season. A bit like we had last season with Hoolahan, Holt, Pilkington, Morison and E.Bennett, all looking good at different stages when they are almost unknown quatities, this season has been tougher due to lots of reasons but i think premier league defenders tend to work players and their weaknesses out quicker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well I Never 0 Posted November 26, 2012 To be honest, Holt aside, I think all those four are the equal of our forwards. Puncheon looked very good on the ball against Newcastle. Hoolahan, Snodgrass, Pilkington, Lallana, Lambert, Puncheon and Rodriguez are upper champs, lower to mid prem level imho, Holt slightly better. Any of these players could step up a notch also, and I would have to say that Lallana, Snodgrass and Rodriguez would be my picks in that category. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redders Right Foot 22 Posted November 26, 2012 [quote user="nutty nigel"][quote user="paul moy"][quote user="djc"]In fairness, van Persie, Rooney, Hernandez and Young are 4 half-decent forwards in this league - and they didnt do too much at Carra recently.[/quote]... especially as Rooney didn''t play !!!  [/quote] Right on Moyo, great spot buddy! Without Rooney Man Utd''s forwards are no better than Saints.   [/quote]despite RVP carrying arsenal last season? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZLF 274 Posted November 26, 2012 I woudl say all 8 are of a very similar level, Lambert and Holt, wes and lallana, pilkington far better than puncheon with gaston probably better than snoddy or bennett. If I was to pick four in order they would be wespilkintonlallanaholt Gaston could easily be the best but too soon to say Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shefcanary 2,444 Posted November 26, 2012 [quote user="kiwigreenandgold"]To be honest, Holt aside, I think all those four are the equal of our forwards. Puncheon looked very good on the ball against Newcastle. Hoolahan, Snodgrass, Pilkington, Lallana, Lambert, Puncheon and Rodriguez are upper champs, lower to mid prem level imho, Holt slightly better. Any of these players could step up a notch also, and I would have to say that Lallana, Snodgrass and Rodriguez would be my picks in that category.[/quote] Yeah, that four looked good against the Toon, but without Coliccini in their side their defence is cr%p - bit like ours without Bassong. The Toon are doomed unless Coliccini gets back soon. Against Hoots well organised back line the Saints front four will look just like ManUre''s powder puff stuff. [If that isn''t the kiss of death nothing is!]. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,585 Posted November 26, 2012 [quote user="Javiers Deaf Translator"][quote user="nutty nigel"][quote user="paul moy"] [quote user="djc"]In fairness, van Persie, Rooney, Hernandez and Young are 4 half-decent forwards in this league - and they didnt do too much at Carra recently.[/quote]... especially as Rooney didn''t play !!! [/quote] Right on Moyo, great spot buddy! Without Rooney Man Utd''s forwards are no better than Saints. [/quote] despite RVP carrying arsenal last season?[/quote] LOL How would you have read Moyo''s post then Jav? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skerritt 0 Posted November 26, 2012 Very humble fans, fair play to them. Will be a tough game. Take a draw Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Walking Man 13 Posted November 26, 2012 I think the issue isn''t necessarily to look at the attacking players but to look at the defences.Gazzaniga, Clyne, Yoshida, Fonte, Shaw Vs.Ruddy, Garrido, Bassong, Bennett, WhittakerNow personally i''d take our defensive 5 over their every day of the week. It''ll be a tight game and crucial we don''t lose but I''m more confident than I have been in years and years in our defence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZLF 274 Posted November 26, 2012 like! to walking man Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nexus_Canary 1,024 Posted November 26, 2012 Dont want to piss on any fires, but last time we had anything to do with Saints ( league 1 ) they beat us 3 times in one season. League x2 and Cup.We are gonna be tired and might be missing Ruddy, Bunn is not bad keeper but I think we would all feel safer with Big John. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted November 26, 2012 [quote user="Nexus_Canary"]Dont want to piss on any fires[/quote]Likewise, we drew 2-2 away in the league and lost on penalties after another 2-2 draw in the JPT. In the game where they did beat us at Carrow Road I remember Darel Russell getting a ridiculously harsh red card. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bury Yellow 2 Posted November 26, 2012 Having lived on the south coast many years ago I have always had a soft spot for the Saints but comments from opposing teams supporters prior to playing us I always find amusing.The vast majority underestimate us and I think a lot of that is down to strange editing of our games on MOTD. An example was Saturday. Edited out in the first half was Holt''s strong run and wide shot and Bassong''s header. In the second half it was decided to not include Pilks free kick.Anyone who has not seen us play live this year and relied on MOTD would think we were a poor team at best.A bit off topic - sorry about that and no I am sober but just off t''pub now!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rudolph Hucker 0 Posted November 26, 2012 That is a very good observation, Bury. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
York Canary 28 Posted November 26, 2012 I did wonder why they missed out Pilks free-kick and the other chances, but that''s just normal for us now - usual biased. I don''t mind in a way though because as you say, it may favour us being underestimated. I noticed they play about 50 thousand clips of Saints attacks against Newcastle and that will surely hype them up a lot and give them confidence. Just hope we go about our usual business in the usual understated, but efficient manner of late and get points from this game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aggy 762 Posted November 26, 2012 The Bassong header missing from MOTD is a very good shout Bury. And in fairness, I''m surprised more hasn''t been made of it on here - free header, absolute sitter! Made up for it at the end, but my oh my what a chance! I think a lot of teams underestimate a lot of bottom half clubs. To be quite honest, a lot of the teams between sort of 14th and 20th often do look distinctly average-at-best, and quite often look very poor. What other teams forget though is that a large majority of the teams in this division are actually no better! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZLF 274 Posted November 26, 2012 MOTD always have some odd omissions (and probably others teams fans say the same things) but I did think the coverage this week was a fair reflection of the game and the summary praised our efforts - all said we were worthy of a point and got back into t he game well. If that makes other sides underestimate us then that can only be a good thing :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Moss 2,165 Posted November 27, 2012 http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?41478-Grant-Holt-a-threatA few tasty comments to fire up Holty who many seem to intensely dislike and underestimate - also seems one confused poster thinks our No9 represents Ipshite for some reason. Really think the Horse is going to have a belter tomorrow night against their centre backs... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crabbycanary 2 Posted November 27, 2012 The commentator on MotD said that we deserved the point, but if you had just seen the highlights, you may have wondered where he was coming from. Let''s stay under the radar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marvin the martian 0 Posted November 27, 2012 Saints fans have the mentality of " it''s only Norwich " in the same way our fans approached the games against Wigan and Blackburn last season. There is no " it''s only " in this division , hopefully we''ll prove that tomorrow night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
K Lo 229 Posted November 27, 2012 Using hostory as a guide, I expect Rob Rosario to score the goal of the season in a thrilling 4-3 win where we were 2-0 down at half time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites