RonnieCorbet 0 Posted October 26, 2012 Interesting from The Guardian... The Aston Villa manager Paul Lambert admits he has not spoken to Norwich chairman Alan Bowkett for two years as he prepares to face his former club at Villa Park tomorrow.Lambert will do battle with Norwich for the first time since he quit Carrow Road at the end of last season to take charge at Villa. He and the club are suing each other for breach of contract and the matter will be decided by a Premier League manager''s tribunal.But Lambert was upset last month when Bowkett made the matter public at a fans'' forum and claimed he had left all of his previous clubs in a similar manner. Lambert insists his action is only a counter-claim to Norwich''s charge that he breached his contract when resigning five months ago.When asked about Bowkett''s claims, Lambert said: "I don''t know because I''ve never spoken to the chairman for about three years. Perhaps that is a bit of an exaggeration, maybe two. It''s a good chunk of time. Why? That''s football. Let him talk. We will see what happens."Lambert has the backing of the League Manager''s Association and is confident he will win his case.He said: "Could I have handled leaving Norwich any differently? Me, not at all. I took advice from the LMA and I know what is going on."It will be in the hands of a Premier League manager''s tribunal and hopefully it will be sorted. But I''ve got nothing to be ashamed of. I''ve got nothing to hide."Lambert looks back with pride on steering Norwich to successive promotions but is unsure what reception he will receive from their fans.He said: "When you leave a club, especially after what we''d done, you''d think we''d be made to feel welcome. But it doesn''t always transpire that way. I look back at the three years with pride."It was an incredible part of my life which I''ll never forget and the crowd were magic with me. Football moves on but I''ll never forget the time there. I loved my time there but I don''t think I''ll be made welcome to go back, that''s for sure."http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/oct/26/paul-lambert-norwich-snubSounds a bit odd for a chairman and a manager not to talk at all for 2 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thirsty Lizard 3,215 Posted October 26, 2012 It really depends on how hands on Bowkett is in his role as Chairman. In many companies the role of chairman is largely just that of a figurehead and everything of importance is done by the Chief Executive who is actually paid to do the role.I would imagine that Lambert and McNally spoke to each other an awful lot while Lambert was here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PurpleCanary 6,386 Posted October 26, 2012 [quote user="Thirsty Lizard"]It really depends on how hands on Bowkett is in his role as Chairman. In many companies the role of chairman is largely just that of a figurehead and everything of importance is done by the Chief Executive who is actually paid to do the role. I would imagine that Lambert and McNally spoke to each other an awful lot while Lambert was here.[/quote] In some companies, but there is a quote from Bowkett from a couple of years ago making great play of how he and McNally and Lambert were running the club as the executives. And the impression has always been that he was a much more hands-on chairman than Munby, in part because Munby had a full-time job, whereas Bowkett is essentially retired, although with some directorships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
morty 0 Posted October 26, 2012 Its a nothing story frankly.And smacks of him trying to garner sympathy about how much the nasty, aloof chairman cared about him.Nothing more than mind games pre game, and also pre courtcase. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Row D Seat 7 0 Posted October 26, 2012 Wish Bowkett would keep his mouth shut. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,902 Posted October 26, 2012 [quote user="PurpleCanary"][quote user="Thirsty Lizard"]It really depends on how hands on Bowkett is in his role as Chairman. In many companies the role of chairman is largely just that of a figurehead and everything of importance is done by the Chief Executive who is actually paid to do the role. I would imagine that Lambert and McNally spoke to each other an awful lot while Lambert was here.[/quote] In some companies, but there is a quote from Bowkett from a couple of years ago making great play of how he and McNally and Lambert were running the club as the executives. And the impression has always been that he was a much more hands-on chairman than Munby, in part because Munby had a full-time job, whereas Bowkett is essentially retired, although with some directorships. [/quote] I remember a comment from Bowkett saying Paul Lambert had "had a little wobble" previously. This was believed to be back at the time of "Burnleygate". Perhaps there was a falling out then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Row D Seat 7 0 Posted October 26, 2012 It wasn''t around Burnleygame time. It was the summer we got promoted to Prem. An offer came in from West Ham and they''d promised him big wages and a big budget. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,902 Posted October 26, 2012 Well whenever it was I''m sure it was only ever mentioned by Bowkett which seemed to me that there was always some resentment there. Those comments and the ones at the fan''s forum definitely point to a falling out from further back than May 2012. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tim Allman 1 Posted October 26, 2012 [quote user="Row D Seat 7"]It wasn''t around Burnleygame time. It was the summer we got promoted to Prem. An offer came in from West Ham and they''d promised him big wages and a big budget.[/quote] Yes that''s correct. The wobble referred to by Alan Bowkett was at the ChrisHughton unveiling press conference and I know this particular wobble was the one at theend of the Championship season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dubai Mark 0 Posted October 26, 2012 ....and apparently when he did speak to him Bowkett couldnt understand a word he said! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarydan23 4,762 Posted October 26, 2012 The man is a total rat. I hope he takes Villa down and is dumped on the management scrapheap. Self-obsessed, narcissistic ego-maniac so obsessed with creating himself a legacy that his own family got shelved in his quest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings of a Sparrow 1,708 Posted October 26, 2012 That''s one way of looking at it I suppose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Supermarket Prodigy 0 Posted October 26, 2012 Simple mind games.He''s ruthless, doesn''t care about many people but himself.I firmly believe he''s trying to get under our skin. Why let it? Let''s get out there, let the boys do the talking and make sure it''s another miserable weekend for Lambert and Villa. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Militant Canary 0 Posted October 26, 2012 Yeah, okay. The guy is just shoveling s**t now. A passing swipe at Norwich after the LMA has advised us not to mention the legal action in public again.What really gets me is that he is portraying himself as the big man, but still feels the need to say something like this. Why? Surely he''d say nothing and let the legal action decide the matter? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Supermarket Prodigy 0 Posted October 26, 2012 [quote user="Militant Canary"]Yeah, okay. The guy is just shoveling s**t now. A passing swipe at Norwich after the LMA has advised us not to mention the legal action in public again.What really gets me is that he is portraying himself as the big man, but still feels the need to say something like this. Why? Surely he''d say nothing and let the legal action decide the matter?[/quote]Agree with you completely. I feel he would, he seems a man under pressure already. Trying to drum up some hate for us or mess us up or something... Who knows. Hasn''t gone as he thought it would yet at Villa. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlyBlyBabes 0 Posted October 26, 2012 [quote user="Dubai Mark"]....and apparently when he did speak to him Bowkett couldnt understand a word he said![/quote] Now that is entirely possible. OTBC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hackedoff 0 Posted October 26, 2012 He said: "When you leave a club, especially after what we''d done, you''d think we''d be made to feel welcome. This did make me chuckle. I suppose you felt like that at Wycombe and Colchester too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crabbycanary 2 Posted October 26, 2012 So, reading between the lines, ''Bowkett hasn''t spoken to Lambert for 2 years plus'' is exactly the same as ''Lambert hasn''t spoken to Bowkett for 2 years plus''. Obviously, NEITHER of them have had reason to speak to EACH OTHER ffsPlease spare me the ''woe is me'' story Paul. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeonYellow 4 Posted October 26, 2012 [quote user="Supermarket Prodigy"]Simple mind games.I firmly believe he''s trying to get under our skin. Why let it? [/quote]Didn''t seem to fluster Hughton too much he was very cool and pragamatic about Lambert in the pre-match interview.It''s a breath of fresh air having a manager who can actually communicate to the fans rather than being grumpy, defensive, and often rude to journalists (admittedly their questions are often tedious and badly timed). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonnieCorbet 0 Posted October 26, 2012 [quote user="NeonYellow"][quote user="Supermarket Prodigy"]Simple mind games.I firmly believe he''s trying to get under our skin. Why let it? [/quote]Didn''t seem to fluster Hughton too much he was very cool and pragamatic about Lambert in the pre-match interview.It''s a breath of fresh air having a manager who can actually communicate to the fans rather than being grumpy, defensive, and often rude to journalists (admittedly their questions are often tedious and badly timed).[/quote]Yeah because that is essentially what you need for a football club manager, I mean those back to back promotions from obscurity and 12th place finish are just a nice bit on the side... We''ll see what Hughton can do over time, great result against Arsenal, but if we lose to Villa and don''t perform great the doom mongers will be back out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 8,034 Posted October 26, 2012 Well, they were certainly talking to one another at the AGM last November so that statement is a load of bollocks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
......and Smith must score. 1,600 Posted October 26, 2012 Bit of an odd ball is Lambert.I remember hearing somwhere that Lambert had said he never went into Norwich other than on business. Of course Norwich isn''t everyone''s cup of tea but it isn''t the Bronx so it does seem a bit strange that on his odd days off when he wasn''t flying back to Scotland he didn''t bother to make make the odd sortie or two to have a look round.If that''s just how he is then maybe talking to Directors isn''t on his '' to do '' list ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjs7 0 Posted October 26, 2012 I''m thankful for the large part Lambert played in our rise from the depths of League One to the Premier League, but they way he went about leaving us and the tit for tat since then i couldn''t give two hoots about the guy, just hope we can beat them on their own patch tomorrow with our fans singing ''your getting sacked in the morning''.. that''ll be hilarious :)Also it will be interesting to see how our players respond to the game tomorrow, will they up their game to prove to Lambert he was wrong to ditch them for a so called bigger side, and i have a feeling Holty will score a goal or two tomorrow.. would be fun to see the players all celebrate with Hoot''s on the touchline in Front of Lambert....(or maybe thats just the bitter and twisted side in me coming out) OTBC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites