Villa believe they don't owe us compensation?

[Jules 0]

According to an article on the Guardian website Villa believe that because Lambert handed in his resignation he is a free agent and that they can appoint him without offering us compensation. If that''s the case then it''s absolutely outrageous. This whole sorry affair is of their design and they should damn well cough up so that NCFC are not left out of pocket and can go and get a new manager of our own. Perhaps AVFC are more skint that we think? After all McNally made reference to Holt costing more than the entire AVFC transfer budget for next season. If so I can''t fathom why Lambert would want to go there.

http://aggbot.com/Norwich-City-News/article/16981538

[AndyCanary 0]

Don''t think there''s any truth in that mate. Lambert can''t resign from a contract unless we accept it and we didn''t. So he never resigned. He''s still under contract with Norwich and will be until that contract expires or someone gives us enough compensation to buy him out of it.

[Zak Van Burger 0]

12 months gardening leave will focus Lambert and Villa

[Mr Jenkins 0]

[quote user="Jules"]According to an article on the Guardian website Villa believe that because Lambert handed in his resignation he is a free agent and that they can appoint him without offering us compensation. If that''s the case then it''s absolutely outrageous. This whole sorry affair is of their design and they should damn well cough up so that NCFC are not left out of pocket and can go and get a new manager of our own. Perhaps AVFC are more skint that we think? After all McNally made reference to Holt costing more than the entire AVFC transfer budget for next season. If so I can''t fathom why Lambert would want to go there.

http://aggbot.com/Norwich-City-News/article/16981538[/quote]

If Villa believe that they`ve got a lot to learn

[morty 0]

[quote user="Grant Hugh "]12 months gardening leave will focus Lambert and Villa[/quote][:D]

[SwindonCanary 457]

Villa hoped to name a new manager in the next 24 hours yesterday, now it''s changed to 48 hours. I wonder what''s stopping them    :-)

[claud 0]

[quote user="Smokebomb"][quote user="Jules"]According to an article on the Guardian website Villa believe that because Lambert handed in his resignation he is a free agent and that they can appoint him without offering us compensation. If that''s the case then it''s absolutely outrageous. This whole sorry affair is of their design and they should damn well cough up so that NCFC are not left out of pocket and can go and get a new manager of our own. Perhaps AVFC are more skint that we think? After all McNally made reference to Holt costing more than the entire AVFC transfer budget for next season. If so I can''t fathom why Lambert would want to go there.

http://aggbot.com/Norwich-City-News/article/16981538[/quote]

If Villa believe that they`ve got a lot to learn[/quote]

They tried to claim the same when AM joined them 5 days after resigning at Birmingham. From what I''m aware Villa ended up paying up.

How they can claim it again is beyond me!

[Ghost of Pongo Waring 0]

McNally said. "When it was indicated that he would like the opportunity

to speak to this particular club the dynamics changed, and then it was

about talking to them about compensation, agreeing compensation and

sorting out a time frame, and we are still in that process.

As McNally said that this afternoon it seems ridiculous for them to say we believe no compensation is due. Norwich wouldn''t be ''still in that process'' if it hadn''t started.

[Zak Van Burger 0]

[quote user="claud"]

They tried to claim the same when AM joined them 5 days after resigning at Birmingham. From what I''m aware Villa ended up paying up.

How they can claim it again is beyond me![/quote]

To be fair we tried it with Colchester and ended up half a mill out of pocket for an unknown quantity and we had waited for permission from Colchester.Villa and that American Tw@ can beg Peter Grant back as caretaker until the 12 months notice has expired, or pay us a good enough rate to prevent a tribunal if they want Lambert any sooner. their choice tick tock.

[norfolkbroadslim 225]

What next?  Villa sign Holt and claim they don''t owe us any money?[:^)]

[Supermarket Prodigy 0]

Claim before we play them they''ve got 3 points, and don''t have to give us a game?

[Zak Van Burger 0]

[quote user="Supermarket Prodigy"]Claim before we play them they''ve got 3 points, and don''t have to give us a game?[/quote]LOL you''re not a million miles off the sort of thing that comes out the whinging Brummies that I know mouths**. Fact is themany Villa fans are such a whinging bunch of Brummies even the brummies hate them.

Apologies in advance for the poor punctuation and grammar peeps

[Theres only one Martin Peters! 0]

Slow Lerner by name and slow learner by nature!

[claud 0]

[quote user="Theres only one Martin Peters"]Slow Lerner by name and slow learner by nature[/quote]

I thought that Randy Lerner was just another name for teenager?

[Twitchy 0]

[quote user="claud"][quote user="Theres only one Martin Peters"]Slow Lerner by name and slow learner by nature[/quote]

I thought that Randy Lerner was just another name for teenager?[/quote]Gold, Sullivan and Randy Lerner now that''s a top shelf best seller.

[militantcanary 0]

Its now on 2 other Nationals Websites so looks like its true

It will get sorted out though as we are only demanding 1M plus the other two who are I am assume are going. The Telegraph say that the Brummie bastards claim we are in breach of his clause that allows him to talk to other parties. Lambert is said to have taken legal advice, jesus my huge goodwill to him has now completely gone

[William Darby 0]

The mirror reckons it''s sortedhttp://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/paul-lambert-wants-grant-holt-859508

[Branston Pickle 4,151]

Let''s take this to court, then: Villa were clearly guilty of tapping up, as Lawrenson was babbling about Lambert to Villa weeks ago. The idea that they have goneby the book is laughable, they only seem capable of dealing via the media. They may have sent a ''written'' approach recently but what about all the stuff prior to that?

[Branston Pickle 4,151]

I wrote that before the Mirror link was put up. If it is the case that Lambert will want to come back for any player, it is certainly not in Villa''s interests to play silly buggers about his compensation.

It is interesting how they have tidied up Holt''s awful message, can''t help but think he''d had a few shandies when he wrote that!

[Google Bot 3,936]

Interesting that McNally said that they wouldn''t accept Lamberts resignation as he was ''already'' in talks with another club earlier.

That obviously has some legal clout as he was keen to get that down on record early.

[norfolkbroadslim 225]

Villa believe they have uncovered a loophole to avoid paying compensation.  Apparently Lambo has a clause in his contract that allows him to speak to any Premier League club.  Because we refused permission, Lambo was left with no option, but to resign and in us refusing his permission we broke the terms of his contract and therefore no compensation needs to be paid.

 

We don''t know what was in Lambert''s contract.  If there was such a clause, and with events since taken as reported, would that mean Villa didn''t have to pay compensation?

 

If Villa avoid paying compensation it would be a monumental clock up! 

 

If this did happen, call me bitter, but I''d make it very difficult for Villa re Culverhouse and Karsa, unless they had such clauses in their contracts too!

 

http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/aston-villa/news/villa-eye-lambert-loophole_29408.html

[Indy_Bones 444]

I''m pretty sure that McNally would be aware of any such clause before making a decision, and therefore find it highly questionable that he would decide to ignore something like this knowing full well what the potential consequence would be.Sounds like more rumour mongering to be honest, but if true it would arguably be the biggest mis-step our CEO has made...

[Mr Brownstone 0]

As I just stated on another thread, I''d be very disappointed in Paul after all we''ve been through together, if he didn''t have enough respect for us as fans to make sure his new employers compensated us properly for our loss.

[Salopian 1]

I am by no means defending Villa, especially as they obviously fed the press with their intention to switch their attention to Lambert, but if they can establish that they were not instrumental in causing Lambert to break his contract then all we have left is to sue Lambert for breech of contract.

 

It all stinks, but the questions are:

Were Villa guilty of enticement in allowing the press constantly to mention their plan to interview Lambert? Had they, in fact, made approaches at some point to his agent or others?

Can anyone walk away from a contract with impugnity - can a manager resign on the spot without ramifications? If the answer is "yes", what is the point of a contract?

 

I am not a lawyer but it may be that McNally and club solicitors may have some milage here. (We may have a repeat case with Holt!)

[JF 694]

From what I have heard the clause is that he can speak to other clubs if the approach is made in the right way. Maybe Lambert jumped the gun having already being tapped up and the official approach had not been made?

[norfolkbroadslim 225]

[quote user="The Pinkun Role Model"]The mirror reckons it''s sorted

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/paul-lambert-wants-grant-holt-859508
[/quote]

 

That Mirror article is balony.  Play hard ball looking for £3m ROFL. 

[Branston Pickle 4,151]

It may well be that Lambert has such a clause in his contract that he can talk if an official approach is made, but it is also true that Villa have clearly been letting it be known they want him for some time. Lawrenson was going on about it several weeks before the end of the season. I''m sure if push comes to shove we can focus on the tapping up aspect, which is ''illegal'' in football. I cant see our CEO deliberately allowing such a loophole to be created. It doesn''t usually get to such a stupid level, but imo Villa are proving to be complete bankers.

[whoareyou? 0]

Villa is  a club run by money men. They will probably do anything they can to avoid paying up.I wonder how long before Lambert walks out on them in a disagreement over money?

[City penguin 0]

im really starting to hate villa, really would relish villa away first game of the season.

[Oh How I Chuckle 0]

[quote user="Branston Pickle"]It may well be that Lambert has such a clause in his contract that he can talk if an official approach is made, but it is also true that Villa have clearly been letting it be known they want him for some time. Lawrenson was going on about it several weeks before the end of the season. I''m sure if push comes to shove we can focus on the tapping up aspect, which is ''illegal'' in football. I cant see our CEO deliberately allowing such a loophole to be created. It doesn''t usually get to such a stupid level, but imo Villa are proving to be complete bankers.[/quote]

Tapping up is illegal isn''t it?? How terrible, another "bigger! club wants your manager and taps him up, he sh*ts on the fans of his existing club, and the other club tries to find any way it can of getting out of paying the smaller club compensation.

Of course, you''d never treat another club that way would you??

A beautiful situation!!