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I recieved a message earlier on facebook from Bryan Gunns daughter, encouraging people to join a group aiming to gather support to appoint Gunny as manager. I questioned whether it was genuinely her, but she has several Norwich acadamy players/employees on her friends page.

He obviously wants the job big time!

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yup thats the one, i havent joined it because I have my reservations about experience, and the fact I wouldnt ever want to see Gunny hounded out with his legend status tarnished.

 

And just so you know, I dont talk rubbish or make things up to post on here, I only give input when I have something useful to say! :)

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Yes, I noticed someone with the surname Gunn trying to whip up support for Bryann to be installed as manager. I too didn''t join the group for the same reasons as Delias Tasty Nibblets. Wouldn''t it be a shame if peoples opinion of a true legend like Gunny started to change!

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I''ve often been critical of the boards appointments, if you read my posts I was critical from the offset of Grant and Roeder''s appointments, for me Grant was a total bullsh**er to the point it was patronising, Roeder was showing his arrogance from day one. I often asked the question, why can''t the board actually employ someone likable, a manager who is liked and respected by the supporters and liked and respected by the players? ok I know there are many more qualities required to being a manager than just being a good, decent character but it should be one hell of a starting point in any list of requirements.In Gunny we have a man who is respected, dignified, liked by all, a great communicator, who possess both life experience and football experience, his character and popularity are second to none.The main argument for not appointing Gunny, from most posters is - we like him too much and at some point in the future he could be asked to leave etc, Ok I understand that point but is that really a good enough reason for not giving someone a job - You like them too much? Perhaps Gunny doesn''t want the job but if he does, we could do a lot worse, a lot, lot worse!

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I don''t think that''s the main argument whatsoever, John. I think the main argument is the obvious one, which maybe has not been as addressed because of the obviousness (not sure that''s a word, but never mind) of it.

Gunny''s problem is experience. What relevant coaching experience does he have? Well, he was goalkeeper coach for a short time. And that''s it.

I''d love right now to be 11th/12th with 30-something points and the ability to experiment a little. But we''re not. And while Gunny may do great while we''re in this "honeymoon" period, what happens when that ends? Will Gunny have the talent and ability to pick the team up, motivate them again and keep them going? I seriously doubt he does.

I''ve seen it said in his favour that "he''s played under some great managers". So has Bryan Robson. So has Peter Grant. That he has "excellent links". But these have hardly worked in our favour so far, have they? Again, like I''ve said to Wiz on another thread, we have to be careful there as we don''t know how much say Gunny had in transfer targets. And finally that he commands the respect and admiration of everyone. Of that we have no doubt - he''d be the most universally liked Norwich manager since Mike Walker returned. But surely we can''t make an appointment based on popularity? This is a football club, not a high school.

As you say, though, we could do a lot worse. I wouldn''t be too disappointed if he was given a chance. But this is a big moment for the club. Can we afford to give it to an unproven, inexperienced man? I just don''t think it''s the right time.

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What worries me greatly is that if campaigns like this geta  little bit of momentum it will be all Delia, Munby et al need to seise on it and go for Gunn as manager on the basis that the fans like him and he would presumably also be a cheap and easy option. i already fee we are being softened up for it with the constant "new man must bleed yellow and green" quotes coming out of carrow Road. I love Gunny as much as the next norwich fan but this is a pivotal appointment for the future of our club and we cannot afford to risk it on someone with no managerial experience (or even coaching experience) however nice a bloke he is. The truth is that although saturday was great the team probably would have produced for anyone who wasn''t Roeder (or associated with Roeder) but there will be much sterner tests ahead.

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[quote user="Jim Smith"]What worries me greatly is that if campaigns like this geta  little bit of momentum it will be all Delia, Munby et al need to seise on it and go for Gunn as manager on the basis that the fans like him and he would presumably also be a cheap and easy option. i already fee we are being softened up for it with the constant "new man must bleed yellow and green" quotes coming out of carrow Road. I love Gunny as much as the next norwich fan but this is a pivotal appointment for the future of our club and we cannot afford to risk it on someone with no managerial experience (or even coaching experience) however nice a bloke he is. The truth is that although saturday was great the team probably would have produced for anyone who wasn''t Roeder (or associated with Roeder) but there will be much sterner tests ahead.[/quote]The blood thing concerns me a bit too.

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[quote user="TheMarshmallowMonkey"]

I don''t think that''s the main argument whatsoever, John. I think the main argument is the obvious one, which maybe has not been as addressed because of the obviousness (not sure that''s a word, but never mind) of it.

Gunny''s problem is experience. What relevant coaching experience does he have? Well, he was goalkeeper coach for a short time. And that''s it.

I''d love right now to be 11th/12th with 30-something points and the ability to experiment a little. But we''re not. And while Gunny may do great while we''re in this "honeymoon" period, what happens when that ends? Will Gunny have the talent and ability to pick the team up, motivate them again and keep them going? I seriously doubt he does.

I''ve seen it said in his favour that "he''s played under some great managers". So has Bryan Robson. So has Peter Grant. That he has "excellent links". But these have hardly worked in our favour so far, have they? Again, like I''ve said to Wiz on another thread, we have to be careful there as we don''t know how much say Gunny had in transfer targets. And finally that he commands the respect and admiration of everyone. Of that we have no doubt - he''d be the most universally liked Norwich manager since Mike Walker returned. But surely we can''t make an appointment based on popularity? This is a football club, not a high school.

As you say, though, we could do a lot worse. I wouldn''t be too disappointed if he was given a chance. But this is a big moment for the club. Can we afford to give it to an unproven, inexperienced man? I just don''t think it''s the right time.

[/quote]I understand where you are coming from but I think we are at the point where we need a leader,who is liked and respected, the coaching is pretty much taken care of by specialist coaches on the training ground anyway i.e.. Fitness Coach for fitness, a Goal Keeping Coach for the keepers, a Defencive Coach for the defense etc, that''s pretty much the norm at any club in the modern game, I agree tactically Gunny could be found wanting on a Saturday afternoon but the big difference between Gunny and Roeder, is I''m sure Gunny is big enough and secure enough to listen to any advice from his assistant coaches, Roeder clearly wasn''t.Grant''s failure wasn''t down to inexperience, it was down to little man syndrome and poor man-management, Roeder''s failure wasn''t down to lack of money, it was down to his self importance, arrogance and again poor man-management.You can''t under estimate the importance of man-management skills. It doesn''t necessarily come from experience but from the character of the man himself. The question is does Gunny have those skills in his locker? the truth is you will never know until you give him a try but he has all the right credentials and if it was a toss up between Ince and Gunny I know who I''d go for

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I dont see his lack of coaching experience a problem, he can get people in who could deal with the main part of that for him.  That would clear him up to work out tactics, speak to players and generally over see everything (a bit like a proper manager).  IMO 75% of the battle when you are the boss is respect and loyalty from the players.  Would you run yourself into the floor for Bryan Gunn, I would...

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as im the only person on the planet who thinks face book is Sh*t and isn''t on it i cant view the page.. is it clearly a spoof or is it causing some interest?

jas :)

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[quote user="Delias Tasty Nibblets"]

I recieved a message earlier on facebook from Bryan Gunns daughter, encouraging people to join a group aiming to gather support to appoint Gunny as manager. I questioned whether it was genuinely her, but she has several Norwich acadamy players/employees on her friends page.

He obviously wants the job big time!

[/quote]I got it too, Gunny''s daughter looked a bit of alright [:P]

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[quote user="Cottaging Canary"]She''s really fit.[/quote]

well if she takes after her Mother then she''s bound to be fit.When Gunny first started playing for us I used to stand in the River end and his missus used to sit in one of the Executive boxes. myself and the 3 lads I used to go with spent as much time lusting after her as watching the game. wasn''t she a model? 

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[quote user="TheMarshmallowMonkey"]

I don''t think that''s the main argument whatsoever, John. I think the main argument is the obvious one, which maybe has not been as addressed because of the obviousness (not sure that''s a word, but never mind) of it.

Gunny''s problem is experience. What relevant coaching experience does he have? Well, he was goalkeeper coach for a short time. And that''s it.

I''d love right now to be 11th/12th with 30-something points and the ability to experiment a little. But we''re not. And while Gunny may do great while we''re in this "honeymoon" period, what happens when that ends? Will Gunny have the talent and ability to pick the team up, motivate them again and keep them going? I seriously doubt he does.

I''ve seen it said in his favour that "he''s played under some great managers". So has Bryan Robson. So has Peter Grant. That he has "excellent links". But these have hardly worked in our favour so far, have they? Again, like I''ve said to Wiz on another thread, we have to be careful there as we don''t know how much say Gunny had in transfer targets. And finally that he commands the respect and admiration of everyone. Of that we have no doubt - he''d be the most universally liked Norwich manager since Mike Walker returned. But surely we can''t make an appointment based on popularity? This is a football club, not a high school.

As you say, though, we could do a lot worse. I wouldn''t be too disappointed if he was given a chance. But this is a big moment for the club. Can we afford to give it to an unproven, inexperienced man? I just don''t think it''s the right time.

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Grant had no managerial experience. Indeed I''d say he had less experience than Gunny cause he didn''t know the club as well as Gunn and didn''t have the people skills or respect!

 

Roeder had experience and look how useless he was. An rockwieller with an atitude problem would have more people skills than Billy no mates Roedernowhere!

 

Other than Boothroyd, I think Gunnys our best bet and remember how good Stringer was and he had no managerial experience!

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[quote user="Lrrr"][quote user="blinded by the story"]

[quote user="Cottaging Canary"]She''s really fit.[/quote]

Behave

[/quote]He''s right though.[/quote]He is, but let''s face it, you wouldn''t want to be the poor young lad who she brings back one night to ''meet the family''... you''d knock timidly on the door, it would creak open and there would be one big giant bald man glaring down at you.... you''d brick it and run a mile...

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