Cracking stuff Delia. Compulsive reading.

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A highly recommended read.

What?

The report by Matt Scott  today in The Guardian of an interview with Delia Smith.

Proud of you Delia.

Check it out. Much good stuff for discusssion.

OTBC

 

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Here it is, taken from the Guardian, for those who are interested.

Delia takes on Chelsea in the name of football

Norwich City''s director fears that the moneymen are ruining the sport she loves, writes Matt Scott

The woman who taught a nation to cook is attacking football with the same missionary zeal. Her tone is as soft and measured as when the television cameras are her pulpit and she is telling us that toast must be left to stand before buttering, but there is a flinty hardness to her words.

Delia Smith is the unlikeliest of football fans yet her passion for the sport, brought so vividly to life with the famous "Let''s be ''avin'' yer" battle cry, is authentic. And so is her belief that the modern game is a recipe for disaster.

 

Her principal targets are foreign owners taking over English clubs. Given that she is speaking before Norwich City, where she is a director, take on Chelsea at Stamford Bridge today, it is clear that Smith is feistier than her homespun reputation would suggest.

"I really don''t believe that foreign billionaires get involved because they really love English football," she said. "There are other reasons. I long for the days when I had my season ticket and all football was fair. It was such a wonderful experience when you could go to football and you had got to the top on your merits. When you think of us playing a team that cost £250m, it is a joke, really, isn''t it?"

The problem is that the punchline is all too predictable: a likely repeat of the comprehensive defeats that Norwich suffered against Roman Abramovich''s Chelsea during their Premiership season in 2004-5. But as far as they can, promises Delia, Norwich will make a stand against foreign investment.

"We are not going to sell to a foreign investor, ever," she said, adding that after more than 10 years as a director at Carrow Road she has realised that "the supporters really are the ones who own the club".

Smith agrees that the idea of a billionaire investor saying he had grown up kicking a ball around the streets of Minsk and dreaming of Ted MacDougall would probably be quite intoxicating for ordinary Norwich fans, but stresses it would not be in the club''s long-term interest.

She thinks it strongly possible that "it will all go haywire" at clubs where Abramovich, the Glazers, Lerner et al hold sway. But what alarms her is that no one seems to be paying much heed to signs of declining interest in the game. "Things are happening that we don''t like," she said. "It''s very worrying that the average age of football supporters is now 40. You could say that it''s dying on its feet, certainly at normal club level and people going to watch football matches. If we''re not very careful it''s just going to become a TV game."

As a club still being thrown scraps from the Premiership table through parachute money, Norwich might not enjoy much sympathy from rivals. But two years ago Smith was making the same arguments from within the swanky hotel rooms where Premiership chairmen congregate.

She is one of precious few women directors in the top two divisions of English football but tackles issues with the snap of a Youssef Safri challenge. Smith is proud of football''s potential as a positive societal influence, and tells a story about a coach in Peckham, south-east London, who has used it to wean addicts from a life of drugs and crime, but she fears its impact is crushed under the weight of commercialism.

"If you bring young people up with football in their lives they know a lot about what life is about," she said. "It''s about joy, about pain and about winning and losing. There are a lot of kicks there that a lot of young people who turn to drugs could find instead. If we are going to be socially responsible this is a little jewel that we have, and we are just letting the moneymen ruin it."

Her message echoes the government''s vision for joined-up sports, health and education programmes, but Smith feels Westminster has failed to realise its grand plans. She tried on "a few occasions" to engage Tony Blair on the subject when Norwich were in the Premiership but found her pleas falling on deaf ears - her decision to turn down Blair''s offer of a peerage might not have helped.

"We are not seeing the results," she said. "It just seems to me that the Premier League really run everything. They''re the ones who really have the say. We have Gordon Brown now saying that he would very much like to attract the World Cup to England. Well, I hope he would like to save football before we have the World Cup.

"When we switch on the telly and see Premiership matches with all those blocks of empty seats - surely it''s not even going to make good TV without the atmosphere there. It is a great mountain to climb but we would like to do our bit if we can. I just feel that maybe, when it becomes clearer who the next prime minister is, maybe it''s time to go along and have a word and say, ''Look, do you really want to watch this thing fizzle out?''"

One place where support for Smith is unwavering is at Norwich, among whose travelling fans she will be sitting today while she leaves husband and co-majority shareholder, Michael Wynn-Jones, to schmooze fellow directors.

"When Chelsea came to us, their fans were singing, ''There''s only one Gordon Ramsay''," she recalled. "So the Norwich supporters were singing, ''We''ve got a super cook, you''ve got a Russian crook''." Such jibes about Abramovich are groundless, but Smith admitted: "I think it''s quite humorous."

[ron obvious 1,502]

Yeah, but it''s all lies, spin & bullshit. It''s obvious she''s only in it so she can steal money off gullible supporters.

Isn''t that right, Cluck, Fram, Smudger etc.??

[canary cherub 1]

Sorry, I don''t agree.  And in the final paragraph she yet again shows that she wants to run with the hare and hunt with the hounds, by quoting with approval the Norwich fans'' "Russian crook" chant about Abramovitch.  Yes Delia it was humorous, bloody funny in fact, but as owner of this club it is not your business to say so in public.  You can''t be a fan as well, whenever you feel like it. 

Likewise, if a fan had got hold of the mic and bellowed "Let''s be ''avin you!" in front of millions on Sky they would rightly have been removed from the ground (and Sky wouldn''t have shown it either).  You can''t have it both ways.  

 

[Alex Harvey-Jones 0]

[quote user="mystic megson"]

Sorry, I don''t agree.  And in the final paragraph she yet again shows that she wants to run with the hare and hunt with the hounds, by quoting with approval the Norwich fans'' "Russian crook" chant about Abramovitch.  Yes Delia it was humorous, bloody funny in fact, but as owner of this club it is not your business to say so in public.  You can''t be a fan as well, whenever you feel like it. 

Likewise, if a fan had got hold of the mic and bellowed "Let''s be ''avin you!" in front of millions on Sky they would rightly have been removed from the ground (and Sky wouldn''t have shown it either).  You can''t have it both ways.  

 

[/quote] Why can''t she be a fan?? I''d much rather a fan owned the club rather than some business man looking to have some fun with a toy!

[Cluck 0]

[quote user="andrew young"]

Yeah, but it''s all lies, spin & bullshit. It''s obvious she''s only in it so she can steal money off gullible supporters.

Isn''t that right, Cluck, Fram, Smudger etc.??

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Get real mate...

Against my better judgement I got dragged along today by my son....and what I saw was pure pantomime. Chelsea barely got out of first gear...but still won easily 4-0. In truth it was little more than a kick in the park for them and before City fans get too excited about it all....lets just see what happens in the league where it is rather more competitive eh?

With Squealia sat amongst the City fans it all looked rather like a kids birthday party at MacDonalds to me....and had the distinct smell of a "small club" let out into the big wide world for the first time.

The said article says it all for me...packed full of the usual excuses and emotional clap-trap.....and of course DS sitting amongst the City fan''s has to mean she''s a "real fan" in touch with her adoring followers doesn''t it?......or then again.....was it done purely for the cameras I wonder?

Pure PR.....and another high profile hijack for the celebrity cook.............

 

 

 

[Mello Yello 2,293]

[quote user="andrew young"]

Yeah, but it''s all lies, spin & bullshit. It''s obvious she''s only in it so she can steal money off gullible supporters.

Isn''t that right, Cluck, Fram, Smudger etc.??

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Yeah. Whatever.

[My spoon is too big! 21]

Mystiic Megson, it''s quite clear that in the final paragraph of his article Matt Scott has taken two separate quotes from Delia and linked them to make his own point.

"When Chelsea came to us, their fans were singing, ''There''s only one Gordon Ramsay''," she recalled. "So the Norwich supporters were singing, ''We''ve got a super cook, you''ve got a Russian crook''." Such jibes about Abramovich are groundless, but Smith admitted: "I think it''s quite humorous."

She makes some very good points of her own in the interview, and although I don''t always agree with her views (she''s Catholic and I''m atheist, for example), I think she''s very good when it comes to commercialism and community.

[Nobodys Perfect 0]

I have to agree with the banks of empty seats stuff from Delia. Just look at the attendance for the Bolton -Arsenal match Wednesday evening. 21,000. This was a big cup match on a reasonable weather night and against Arsenal!. Arsenal for goodness sake. Carrow Road the previous evening however had pulled in just a few hundred less and to watch who? Blackpool. Boring complacency will ruin the top flight just as surely as the money. The first casualty in this cash and complacency  flood is the England team. Hands up anyone who gets excited about the prospect of watching a live England game on TV anymore.Mogadon veiwing.

[canary cherub 1]

[quote user="Alex Harvey-Jones"][quote user="mystic megson"]

Sorry, I don''t agree.  And in the final paragraph she yet again shows that she wants to run with the hare and hunt with the hounds, by quoting with approval the Norwich fans'' "Russian crook" chant about Abramovitch.  Yes Delia it was humorous, bloody funny in fact, but as owner of this club it is not your business to say so in public.  You can''t be a fan as well, whenever you feel like it. 

Likewise, if a fan had got hold of the mic and bellowed "Let''s be ''avin you!" in front of millions on Sky they would rightly have been removed from the ground (and Sky wouldn''t have shown it either).  You can''t have it both ways.  

 

[/quote] Why can''t she be a fan?? I''d much rather a fan owned the club rather than some business man looking to have some fun with a toy![/quote]

Alex, she patently obviously ISN''T just a fan.  Would "Let''s be ''avin you!" have seen the light of day on Sky TV if she hadn''t been Delia Smith?  Similarly, the "two games" statement before Worthy''s sacking.  Because it came from her instead of you or I, it got wall-to-wall coverage for a week before the Burnley game and led one of the most shameful episodes in the club''s history - again, on Sky TV. As owner of the club, her job was to back him or sack him, not hang him out to dry in the full glare of publicity. 

Either she''s in deep denial about the effect her fame has on what she says and does, or she''s exploiting it for all it''s worth to the detriment of our club.  It''s not a million miles from that very thing you rightly object to Alex, a "business[wo]man looking to have some fun with a toy.

 

 

[0peteddMMyyyy0Falseen-USTrue 0]

A flush oligarch who expects some say due to his generous investment or a B list celebrity cook intent on raising her own profile, who would you want.  Delia''s stock goes down with each passing month, glorifying gallant little Norwich getting by on a shoestring.  Glad to see the back of her when she goes which no doubt she will.

[canary cherub 1]

[quote user="NorCal Canary"]Mystiic Megson, it''s quite clear that in the final paragraph of his article Matt Scott has taken two separate quotes from Delia and linked them to make his own point.

"When Chelsea came to us, their fans were singing, ''There''s only one Gordon Ramsay''," she recalled. "So the Norwich supporters were singing, ''We''ve got a super cook, you''ve got a Russian crook''." Such jibes about Abramovich are groundless, but Smith admitted: "I think it''s quite humorous." She makes some very good points of her own in the interview, and although I don''t always agree with her views (she''s Catholic and I''m atheist, for example), I think she''s very good when it comes to commercialism and community.

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NorCal my old fruit, the reason Matt Scott has inserted the link to which you refer - "Such jibes about Abramovitch are groundless" - is to circumvent a libel action.

 

[The Judge 0]

Alot of what Delia says about the state of English football is actually very true and I quite agree with her. However, whether we feel it is right or wrong, it is the world we live in and the game we have to play if we want to be sucessful.

It worries me abit that Delia wants to take this strong morale stance against all the things she feels is bad in football and almost definately backed by her religious beliefs (which I''m not saying is right or wrong), but it will undoubtedly be to the detriment of NCFC.

Like it or not Delia, this is the world of football today and if you feel you are doing NCFC a favour by taking this stance, then sorry you are very very wrong - football fans want success, not at at all costs, but they want success, and if syou continues to run the club on the basis of your beliefs rather than a reality that is a championship football team - then i''m sorry it will only lead this club one way. There are too many hard nosed businessmen out there who don''t give a hoot about the social aspect of the game etc and over time once they have brought out all the Premier Clubs they will move on to the Championship clubs (as they are already doing) and so on - so where will this leave Norwich if Delias morale stance on football is held true ? well it may be league 1 or 2 - but in Delias mind that will be OK because she is in charge of a club that tries to do things the right, socially responsible and morally right way.

Just look where trying to run the football club on the right financial basis has got us ???

Sorry Delia, i''m not having a go at you for your beliefs or your views on football in general (as I actually agree with alot of them) but like it not football is a business and football fans want success - please don''t use our  club as some kind of "shining light" for the way a football club should be run - the club is not the platform to play out your own beliefs - its a club that is currently in the 2nd tier of English football and if we have aspirations to stay there or go higher we have to play by the "rules" the rest of the teams in those league, and below want to play by - or there will only be one loser - us..... 

   

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Behold the self publicist that is our cook is all over the papers and gets herself a seat "with the fans" where the tv cameras can see her! Guess what - we are playing a prem team!

She realy does herself no favours and it is difficult to defend the criticism that she had disappeared during the rubbish that has been served up this season.

I heard her say that she was looking forward to "nice day out" Its the little Norwich all over again.

 

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[quote user="The Judge"]

Alot of what Delia says about the state of English football is actually very true and I quite agree with her. However, whether we feel it is right or wrong, it is the world we live in and the game we have to play if we want to be sucessful.

It worries me abit that Delia wants to take this strong morale stance against all the things she feels is bad in football and almost definately backed by her religious beliefs (which I''m not saying is right or wrong), but it will undoubtedly be to the detriment of NCFC.

Like it or not Delia, this is the world of football today and if you feel you are doing NCFC a favour by taking this stance, then sorry you are very very wrong - football fans want success, not at at all costs, but they want success, and if syou continues to run the club on the basis of your beliefs rather than a reality that is a championship football team - then i''m sorry it will only lead this club one way. There are too many hard nosed businessmen out there who don''t give a hoot about the social aspect of the game etc and over time once they have brought out all the Premier Clubs they will move on to the Championship clubs (as they are already doing) and so on - so where will this leave Norwich if Delias morale stance on football is held true ? well it may be league 1 or 2 - but in Delias mind that will be OK because she is in charge of a club that tries to do things the right, socially responsible and morally right way.

Just look where trying to run the football club on the right financial basis has got us ???

Sorry Delia, i''m not having a go at you for your beliefs or your views on football in general (as I actually agree with alot of them) but like it not football is a business and football fans want success - please don''t use our  club as some kind of "shining light" for the way a football club should be run - the club is not the platform to play out your own beliefs - its a club that is currently in the 2nd tier of English football and if we have aspirations to stay there or go higher we have to play by the "rules" the rest of the teams in those league, and below want to play by - or there will only be one loser - us..... 

   

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An excellent read Judge - very well put.

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[quote user="percyvarco"]

Behold the self publicist that is our cook is all over the papers and gets herself a seat "with the fans" where the tv cameras can see her! Guess what - we are playing a prem team!

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Are people really under the impression that Delia only sits with the other fans when it''s a big game or when the tv cameras are there? Has anybody ever considered that it could be that the media seeks her out in these games? And wasn''t there criticism a few weeks ago at Tamworth for the opposite?

A few years ago we played Stockport away on a Tuesday night during the petrol protests. It was a pig to get to, there was no media presence, there were maybe a couple hundred Norwich fans with Delia amongst them.

But what would I know. I just go to games and say what I see.

 

 

[Cluck 0]

For a woman who appears so vitriolic about the "big bad clubs"...she got her mug squarely on the tv again and her giggly contribution about the "glamour" was cringe-worthy.

Sat amongst the crowd "which I do sometimes"..........Yeah... only when the cameras are there and she can show just how devoted her little sheep are to her cause.

Utter bilge......

[nutty nigel 7,534]

[quote user="-.-. .-.. ..- -.-. -.-"]

Sat amongst the crowd "which I do sometimes"..........Yeah... only when the cameras are there and she can show just how devoted her little sheep are to her cause.

Utter bilge......

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Thanks for clearing that up for me.....

 

 

[Hairy Canary 703]

[quote user="-.-. .-.. ..- -.-. -.-"]

For a woman who appears so vitriolic about the "big bad clubs"...she got her mug squarely on the tv again and her giggly contribution about the "glamour" was cringe-worthy.

Sat amongst the crowd "which I do sometimes"..........Yeah... only when the cameras are there and she can show just how devoted her little sheep are to her cause.

Utter bilge......

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Sorry Cluck but this is too much. I often read what you have to say with some interest. Most of it I disagree with but you tend to make your points well and it gives me pause for thought (sometimes). However... 

Just do yourself a favour and read through what you have put again. It is just plain offensive both to Delia and the "other" supporters and quite frankly you have let yourself down. Fair enough be offensive if you want to, it not that big a deal, but it does make you look like a spoit schoolboy. Stick to the grown up arguments it suits you better.

[In Dubious Battle 0]

Delia is a celebrity she was before she took over at city and she will be after she leaves, TV cameras are bound to seek her out at high profile football matches.Those of you who want success no matter what the cost should sod of and support chelsea or man utd because thats what you''d basically have city turn into. I would rather support city with the ethos we have now in league 2 than have us turn into another chelsea.

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[quote user="andrew young"]

Yeah, but it''s all lies, spin & bullshit. It''s obvious she''s only in it so she can steal money off gullible supporters.

Isn''t that right, Cluck, Fram, Smudger etc.??

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why have i been left out?. I deserve more than an etc surely.

[Cluck 0]

[quote user="Hairy Canary"][quote user="-.-. .-.. ..- -.-. -.-"]

For a woman who appears so vitriolic about the "big bad clubs"...she got her mug squarely on the tv again and her giggly contribution about the "glamour" was cringe-worthy.

Sat amongst the crowd "which I do sometimes"..........Yeah... only when the cameras are there and she can show just how devoted her little sheep are to her cause.

Utter bilge......

[/quote]

Sorry Cluck but this is too much. I often read what you have to say with some interest. Most of it I disagree with but you tend to make your points well and it gives me pause for thought (sometimes). However... 

Just do yourself a favour and read through what you have put again. It is just plain offensive both to Delia and the "other" supporters and quite frankly you have let yourself down. Fair enough be offensive if you want to, it not that big a deal, but it does make you look like a spoit schoolboy. Stick to the grown up arguments it suits you better.

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If the cap fits...wear it. Odd isn''t it though that there were so many "extra" fans at Stamford Bridge enjoying a big "day out"....yet there are only usually around 600 to 700 hardcore supporters for the less glamorous away league games. They have my total adoration and respect.....but I doubt Squealia sits with them too often then.....unless of course the cameras are rolling.

The whole thing resembled a MacDonalds childrens birthday party....with Squealia plonked prominently in the middle. Nice little Norwich strikes again.....and another "hijack" successfully completed.

Is anyone going to try and tell me now that Delia Smith doesn''t equal Norwich City in 2007?

 

[a1canary 0]

[quote user="-.-. .-.. ..- -.-. -.-"]

For a woman who appears so vitriolic about the "big bad clubs"...she got her mug squarely on the tv again and her giggly contribution about the "glamour" was cringe-worthy.

Sat amongst the crowd "which I do sometimes"..........Yeah... only when the cameras are there and she can show just how devoted her little sheep are to her cause.

Utter bilge......

[/quote]This shows displays the same prejudice i referred to in another post:http://new.pinkun.com/cs/forums/2/879237/ShowPost.aspx#879237Here delia was chastised for saying she was going to chelsea to have a fun day out, eventhough huckerby had said what amounted to exactly the same thing a few days before.I agree she does come across a bit sugar and spice sometimes but to hold that against her, just because of her upbringing and the way she speaks, is totally unfair and tantamount to bigotry. As she shows in the article that started this post, there''s a lot more to her than you give her credit for. She wouldn''t have achieved what she has without a bit of nous.By the way Cluck, Smudger and co - i''d be interested to know, do you think you know more about being a director of a football club than DS does?

[7rew 0]

cetainly cluck: 

Delia Smith doesn''t equal Norwich City in 2007.

Norwich also have a media presence through international players

[currently Robert Earnshaw and Paul Gallacher] and well known players

[Dion Dublin], results achieved over the likes of clubs such as

Birmingham that have been in the premiership more recently than us. Not

least our presence in league tables.

The media are so much less obcessed with her than you are, they don''t

mention her any more than the chairperson of any other club gets

mentioned* (and in the same situations) and much less than some

chairmen [Roman Abramovich, Simon Jordan, Vladamir Romanov, Doug Ellis

when at Villa, Freddie Shepard].  (* there are some clubs with

less visable chairmen, those with managers that are famous from their

playing days, such as Steve Bruce at Birmingham)

Just because the cameras picked out delia in the crowd, she was nowhere

near as commented on as the presence of Abramavich, nor did she get any

where near as much screen time.  Anyway she is a celeb, sports

coverage often defaults to spot the celeb in the crowd when the action

is a bit dull.  Just watch Wimbledon (tennis) to see how often

this happens.

As to there being "extra" fans at stamford bridge, there were many more

tickets available.  Attendence at away games depends a lot more on

distance than home support, especially given the comparatively low

numbers of away season tickets.  You yourself went, do you

normally go to away games? Did you go to blackpool away (probably the

lowest glamour to distance ratio available)?

Intresting note, the last person to discover that I''m a Norwich fan first said "Oh, you''ve got Darren Huckerby, haven''t you?"

[Cluck 0]

[quote user="7rew"]cetainly cluck: 
Delia Smith doesn''t equal Norwich City in 2007.

Norwich also have a media presence through international players [currently Robert Earnshaw and Paul Gallacher] and well known players [Dion Dublin], results achieved over the likes of clubs such as Birmingham that have been in the premiership more recently than us. Not least our presence in league tables.
The media are so much less obcessed with her than you are, they don''t mention her any more than the chairperson of any other club gets mentioned* (and in the same situations) and much less than some chairmen [Roman Abramovich, Simon Jordan, Vladamir Romanov, Doug Ellis when at Villa, Freddie Shepard].  (* there are some clubs with less visable chairmen, those with managers that are famous from their playing days, such as Steve Bruce at Birmingham)

Just because the cameras picked out delia in the crowd, she was nowhere near as commented on as the presence of Abramavich, nor did she get any where near as much screen time.  Anyway she is a celeb, sports coverage often defaults to spot the celeb in the crowd when the action is a bit dull.  Just watch Wimbledon (tennis) to see how often this happens.

As to there being "extra" fans at stamford bridge, there were many more tickets available.  Attendence at away games depends a lot more on distance than home support, especially given the comparatively low numbers of away season tickets.  You yourself went, do you normally go to away games? Did you go to blackpool away (probably the lowest glamour to distance ratio available)?

Intresting note, the last person to discover that I''m a Norwich fan first said "Oh, you''ve got Darren Huckerby, haven''t you?"[/quote]

You don''t like me do you 7rew?.....and I try so very hard as well.           [:''(]

True that I have been to just 3 away games this season....and missed 4 at home....but next time I''ll make sure I sit amongst the ordinary fans "like I sometimes do"....giggle giggle.........

Obviously Squealia is dear to your (and others'') heart....so the argument is stalemate. However....I personally support Norwich City the football club I''m afraid....and in my book no one person should ever try to upstage it.

 

 

[Snakepit Boy 0]

[quote user="-.-. .-.. ..- -.-. -.-"]

For a woman who appears so vitriolic about the "big bad clubs"...she got her mug squarely on the tv again and her giggly contribution about the "glamour" was cringe-worthy.

Sat amongst the crowd "which I do sometimes"..........Yeah... only when the cameras are there and she can show just how devoted her little sheep are to her cause.

Utter bilge......

[/quote]

I reckon you fancy her really.

[Whats a right winger 0]

Wrong as usual Cluck, she''s sitting with the "hardcore/mugs" at Preston tomorrow evening & I doubt ther''ll be a camera anywhere in sight.

[Rudolph Hucker 0]

This was a decent article up to and until the final paragraph.

I find myself in total agreement with Delia Smith''s views, commend her for stating them and criticise the journalist for the dumb ending.

[sheded 0]

I can see exactly where Delia is coming from !     here`s just an exerpt from ,  very many such, about the state of the  game today :-

Compare that to Man City, Leeds or Arsenal etc who have large debts to pay and have effectively mortgaged future season ticket sales. If all that does not convince you then does the club not also have a moral responsibility to fill the ground? I was a season ticket holder for 40 years until 3 years ago when I saw the atmosphere was dying as a result of reduced gates and silly prices. £36 for my seat now - a case of wine or 9 visits to the cinema etc etc or 90 mins football? - the club has lost the plot and 10,000 fans. Summary - all fans pay less, the club has more income, gates will increase & the atmosphere will improve - what are we waiting for Mr Chairman?

Fact , well over half   the population get  well below  the , so called ,  average wage ,   To them  , a season ticket  is but a dream ...... gate prices  totally unaffordable ,   what we are seeing  in the game today  is carpet baggers from  other shores ,owners and players alike , coming over  to  take advantage  of the rich pickings ,  sky ( pun intended ) high players wages  = sky high  gate prices  ,  the inevitable result  is  those huge prem stadiums   are half empty  for most matches !  .....   it doesn`t  take an IQ  of a genious to work out  that this scenerio   is a bubble about to burst !   and when it does ?   well  , you wont see see the carpet baggers arses for dust !    the rats will desert the sinking ships in droves .... 

I believe Delia  has tried to  make these points  !   only the stupid , will carry on yapping about  this , " Lets be `aving you "    bit , is THAT  the  best they can do ?  I sometimes wonder whether some of them take the  "Pink " un  a leeeetle bit too seriously ? like , its not  that the  major shareholder  has done this or that wrong , more ......... that she`s a woman !  lmfao !

[Rudolph Hucker 0]

Twang.............whooooosh.........thud! Sheded.

Bullseye!