dylanisabaddog 6,133 Posted March 25 Racist comments just reported on BBC news. I'd probably get banned if I said what I thought about this Christian racist tw*t Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 7,797 Posted March 25 ... What's his Christianity got to do with it? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 4,682 Posted March 25 Just now, cambridgeshire canary said: ... What's his Christianity got to do with it? Soul Church Baby, Soul Church. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,830 Posted March 25 (edited) Unbelievable. Reported for racist comments? His intention was clearly to reflect the problems young black people have in society - a problem the BBC and other news groups have reported on, multiple times. He was clumsy with what he said, but to me he was highlighting social problems and how these players might have avoided them by being involved in football. That is a good thing. Don't get me wrong, I don't like him and think he is egotistical and lacking in humility, but in this case, there is nothing here to get excited about in so far as reporting him. I think it's ridiculous - he might need to apologise and explain himself a bit more what he was trying to say, but to villify him nationally is just over the top. Edited March 25 by lake district canary 6 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Google Bot 3,929 Posted March 25 (edited) 4 minutes ago, lake district canary said: Unbelievable. Reported for racist comments? I don't think they were intentionally racist, but you can't really defend him as he's clearly profiled those players in direct relation to their other options in life being jail. I think it's more of a class thing, but then so was Grenfell, sometimes it goes hand in hand, sometimes it's deliberate, sometimes it's normalised and accidental. Tricky subject really, I think he's a man that would reach out to those people and seek to help as it gives him a kick. But his ego... again... has landed him in the not so sweet smelling brown sticky stuff. Edited March 25 by Google Bot 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 4,682 Posted March 25 11 minutes ago, lake district canary said: Unbelievable. Reported for racist comments? His intention was clearly to reflect the problems young black people have in society - a problem the BBC and other news groups have reported on, multiple times. He was clumsy with what he said, but to me he was highlighting social problems and how these players might have avoided them by being involved in football. That is a good thing. Don't get me wrong, I don't like him and think he is egotistical and lacking in humility, but in this case, there is nothing here to get excited about in so far as reporting him. I think it's ridiculous - he might need to apologise and explain himself a bit more what he was trying to say, but to villify him nationally is just over the top. Listen or read what he said again, unbelievable comment by you. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
......and Smith must score. 1,596 Posted March 25 (edited) 20 minutes ago, lake district canary said: Unbelievable. Reported for racist comments? His intention was clearly to reflect the problems young black people have in society - a problem the BBC and other news groups have reported on, multiple times. He was clumsy with what he said, but to me he was highlighting social problems and how these players might have avoided them by being involved in football. That is a good thing. Don't get me wrong, I don't like him and think he is egotistical and lacking in humility, but in this case, there is nothing here to get excited about in so far as reporting him. I think it's ridiculous - he might need to apologise and explain himself a bit more what he was trying to say, but to villify him nationally is just over the top. C’mon Lakey, although he may have originated from a small place in Wales he’s been around the block enough to know you can’t say things like that without causing a storm. None of the players he named are white.  He could have just said young players but no, he had to be more specific. Not a good look is it ?  Edited March 25 by ......and Smith must score. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 6,144 Posted March 25    https://www.itv.com/news/anglia/2024-03-25/anti-racism-groups-slam-ignorant-comments-made-by-ex-sporting-director  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,830 Posted March 25 3 minutes ago, Midlands Yellow said: Listen or read what he said again, unbelievable comment by you. I have. He was clumsy with his comments, didn't think it through and it came out badly, but I don't think for one minute he was being racist. I see he's apologised so maybe he recognises he said something in a stupid way, but at least he wasn't afraid to say something, whereas a lot of people are scared to say anything for fear of being labelled racist, when all they are trying to do is talk about a problem that is well known to exist. The alternative to not talking about these subjects is that they don't get discussed enough! 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 4,682 Posted March 25 1 minute ago, lake district canary said: I have. He was clumsy with his comments, didn't think it through and it came out badly, but I don't think for one minute he was being racist. I see he's apologised so maybe he recognises he said something in a stupid way, but at least he wasn't afraid to say something, whereas a lot of people are scared to say anything for fear of being labelled racist, when all they are trying to do is talk about a problem that is well known to exist. The alternative to not talking about these subjects is that they don't get discussed enough! Well it was and you’re very wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,830 Posted March 25 1 minute ago, ......and Smith must score. said: C’mon Lakey, although he may have originated from a small place in Wales he’s been around the block enough to know you can’t say things like that without causing a storm. None of the players he named are white.  He could have just said young players but no, he had to be more specific. Not a good look is it ?  I agree with you, it isn't a good look, but he was trying to draw attention to a problem that exists for young black people -as reported widely on all sorts of news programmes/documentaries. But he did it in a Webber like way - clumsy and lacking in judgement. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Helsinki canary 302 Posted March 25 (edited) Best advice for Webber is to keep his egoistic gob shut and get up that damn mountain Edited March 25 by Helsinki canary 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
......and Smith must score. 1,596 Posted March 25 Just now, lake district canary said: I agree with you, it isn't a good look, but he was trying to draw attention to a problem that exists for young black people -as reported widely on all sorts of news programmes/documentaries. But he did it in a Webber like way - clumsy and lacking in judgement. In that case he needs to engage brain before opening mouth. He knows social media inside out. This isn’t the first time he’s been clumsy and lacking in judgement. If I was employing him I wouldn’t let him anywhere need the media as the man’s a PR disaster.  2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 3,471 Posted March 25 I see Lakeys point and I have said elsewhere Webber has a tendency to say things before engaging his brain! Clumsy indeed unfortunately a tad racist to boot! He has apologised and the clubs made a statement. Not sure what more needs to be done? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monty13 2,736 Posted March 25 (edited) 19 minutes ago, lake district canary said: I have. He was clumsy with his comments, didn't think it through and it came out badly, but I don't think for one minute he was being racist. I see he's apologised so maybe he recognises he said something in a stupid way, but at least he wasn't afraid to say something, whereas a lot of people are scared to say anything for fear of being labelled racist, when all they are trying to do is talk about a problem that is well known to exist. The alternative to not talking about these subjects is that they don't get discussed enough! He could have said exactly the same thing without naming players, but no his ego got the better of him and he didn’t think for a second about what he was saying about them or how he was stereotyping men like them. Edited March 25 by Monty13 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,830 Posted March 25 11 minutes ago, Midlands Yellow said: Well it was and you’re very wrong. Wind your neck in and read what I've said. I've not excused him, he was wrong to say it in the way he did and it came across badly, but it is quite clear to anyone who is familiar with his habit of putting his foot in his mouth (like we know of him as fans) that he was trying to say something meaningful and with good intentions - but he just got it wrong. Easy to shout "racism" at things like this, but really it's a song and dance about very little - and something for which he has rightly apologised and we should all move on without getting too irate. It wasn't Webber being racist, it was just Webber being Webber. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB 1,222 Posted March 25 41 minutes ago, lake district canary said: Unbelievable. Reported for racist comments? His intention was clearly to reflect the problems young black people have in society - a problem the BBC and other news groups have reported on, multiple times. He was clumsy with what he said, but to me he was highlighting social problems and how these players might have avoided them by being involved in football. That is a good thing. Don't get me wrong, I don't like him and think he is egotistical and lacking in humility, but in this case, there is nothing here to get excited about in so far as reporting him. I think it's ridiculous - he might need to apologise and explain himself a bit more what he was trying to say, but to villify him nationally is just over the top. *Cough*, young people have problems in society, no need to profile just one section of those young people. I am not saying he is a racist but there was no need to single out young black men and there was absolutely no need to name people individually if you are trying to make a general point, particularly if you have not sought permission from those individuals, we now have two ex NCFC players and at least one current NCFC player who are unhappy with his comments............. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mengo 852 Posted March 25 14 minutes ago, Helsinki canary said: Best advice for Webber is to keep his egoistic gob shut and get up that damn mountain Without a doubt. How does he do it. The man or whatever you would like to call him is an utter embarrassment to Norwich City. He single handed , has dragged the name of Norwich football down. His ego is disgusting as.well as he is. No excuses, who does he believe he is , some kind of creative saviour . He's a dummy. We'll, he craved the attention , now he's got it. Deal with it . Absolute numbskull. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
littleyellowbirdie 3,138 Posted March 25 When the clear intent of the guy is all about drawing attention to pulling kids out of poverty and steering them away from bad life choices, digging in to argue that the guy's a rampant racist when it's clearly not the case is just plain ridiculous. Like I said, waste of space single issue campaigners justifying their existence is the problem here; not Webber. 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 4,682 Posted March 25 10 minutes ago, lake district canary said: Wind your neck in and read what I've said. I've not excused him, he was wrong to say it in the way he did and it came across badly, but it is quite clear to anyone who is familiar with his habit of putting his foot in his mouth (like we know of him as fans) that he was trying to say something meaningful and with good intentions - but he just got it wrong. Easy to shout "racism" at things like this, but really it's a song and dance about very little - and something for which he has rightly apologised and we should all move on without getting too irate. It wasn't Webber being racist, it was just Webber being Webber.  10 minutes ago, lake district canary said: Wind your neck in and read what I've said. I've not excused him, he was wrong to say it in the way he did and it came across badly, but it is quite clear to anyone who is familiar with his habit of putting his foot in his mouth (like we know of him as fans) that he was trying to say something meaningful and with good intentions - but he just got it wrong. Easy to shout "racism" at things like this, but really it's a song and dance about very little - and something for which he has rightly apologised and we should all move on without getting too irate. It wasn't Webber being racist, it was just Webber being Webber. With respect, you need to do the rereading. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mengo 852 Posted March 25 20 minutes ago, Indy said: I see Lakeys point and I have said elsewhere Webber has a tendency to say things before engaging his brain! Clumsy indeed unfortunately a tad racist to boot! He has apologised and the clubs made a statement. Not sure what more needs to be done? Indy, there is no Brain , its a moron we are dealing with. He actually thinks he is some kind of saviour , he actually thinks that people believe in him. God , help us if this is the kind of person people are supposed to look up to. My god ,help us all. HOW embarrassing is this cretin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 4,682 Posted March 25 2 minutes ago, Mengo said: Indy, there is no Brain , its a moron we are dealing with. He actually thinks he is some kind of saviour , he actually thinks that people believe in him. God , help us if this is the kind of person people are supposed to look up to. My god ,help us all. HOW embarrassing is this cretin. He is as dodgy as fcuk, so far up his own **** as is possible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mannings bandy legs 439 Posted March 25 I wonder what he thinks of sherpas. Where would they be if they were not guiding mountaineers? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
repman 752 Posted March 25 6 minutes ago, littleyellowbirdie said: When the clear intent of the guy is all about drawing attention to pulling kids out of poverty and steering them away from bad life choices, digging in to argue that the guy's a rampant racist when it's clearly not the case is just plain ridiculous. Like I said, waste of space single issue campaigners justifying their existence is the problem here; not Webber. If when trying to do as you say you manage to pick out 5 black players (some of whom weren't actually raised in poverty) and then claim that the only outcome other than football is jail, then I think what while you may not be a 'rampant racist' you perhaps have some unchecked biases which need addressing pretty quickly. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 2,035 Posted March 25 Even if you remove the possible racial aspect to this....he has referenced 5 people by name and suggested that were it not for football would have ended up in prison (or in gang culture) Regardless of the colour of their skin, imagine what they and their families think when they read that? Its an accusation over their upbringing, their parenting, their attitude as individuals I said when I first read it that he'd better be damned sure about these comments to be making them about these 5 people. The subsequent reaction by 3 of those 5 , Kamara, and the mothers of Aarons and Lewis show that he was completely wide of the mark I would be suing him for defemation of character. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,572 Posted March 25 4 minutes ago, mannings bandy legs said: I wonder what he thinks of sherpas. Where would they be if they were not guiding mountaineers? Taking kukri classes?.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mengo 852 Posted March 25 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Midlands Yellow said: He is as dodgy as fcuk, so far up his own **** as is possible. I think with all his altitude training he's been doing he must be superfit now and quite possibly be able to ,with his ego intact kiss his own aśş without much difficulty now. SUPER STu. Saviour of the disadvantaged people. Chancer ( soul) man . Maybe he should be doing attitude training and not altitude training. Edited March 25 by Mengo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S_81 1,101 Posted March 25 This should be a lesson to Stu and his ego. But narcissists tend to blame others than truly reflect on their errors. I suspect Stu will just hate the media even more and carry an even bigger chip on his shoulder once enough time has passed for him to land his next DoF role. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skittles 14 Posted March 25 1 hour ago, dylanisabaddog said: Racist comments just reported on BBC news. I'd probably get banned if I said what I thought about this Christian racist tw*t Bet you wouldn’t say Muslim if he was one.  Weird hypocrite!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarybubbles 2,199 Posted March 25 34 minutes ago, Mengo said: Maybe he should be doing attitude training and not altitude training. 🤣 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites