Midlands Yellow 4,080 Posted March 21 What a shame. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/68580638 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,277 Posted March 21 Ipswich fans will be loving this if a points deduction gets applied this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Satriales 695 Posted March 21 Not great timing considering they are in a promotion race with only a handful of games to go. This needs to be sorted asap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 1,800 Posted March 21 Any points reduction wouldnt be until they next play in the premier league ...however the uncertainty cant help. Imagine knowing that if you got promotion you'd start on a minus in the premier league. Godfrey £25 -Everton Omobamudele -£11m+ -Forest Maddison -£25m -Leicester We're selling to balance our books as a self funding club , to clubs who cant afford it and are cheating the system Hope justice is done 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 6,005 Posted March 21 Now what about the big fry? I like this attempt to clean up the act a bit, but no disrespect to Everton, Forest and Leicester, they're hardly the three big offenders, are they? Manchester City, I'm looking at you. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daz 72 Posted March 21 Apparently no points decision till next season so at least that helps them a bit.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Virtual reality 717 Posted March 21 24 minutes ago, TheGunnShow said: Now what about the big fry? I like this attempt to clean up the act a bit, but no disrespect to Everton, Forest and Leicester, they're hardly the three big offenders, are they? Manchester City, I'm looking at you. The amount of charges they are facing should see them playing in the amateur northern leagues. I would presume it’s a very complex case that is being made watertight for the impending court challenges once the punishment is served 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 6,005 Posted March 21 Just now, Virtual reality said: The amount of charges they are facing should see them playing in the amateur northern leagues. I would presume it’s a very complex case that is being made watertight for the impending court challenges once the punishment is served Aye, it should be a derby with Radcliffe Borough if there's any justice, but we'll see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,277 Posted March 21 Seems ludicrous that Leicester can effectively buy themselves a promotion back to the Premier League. With a £150m to come in on promotion, I suspect they'd happily take a 4 or 6 pt deduction next season, especially if Everton and Forest get hit again as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deptford Yellow 260 Posted March 21 Somewhat tangentially - I see the Leicester game is now on Sky … I’ll be in Norwich but have my kids (11 and 12) with me … Can anybody recommend any child-friendly pubs with Sky in Norwich ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 4,080 Posted March 21 Leicester have previous, pulled a fast one in 2002 too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yobocop 1,105 Posted March 22 5 hours ago, Capt. Pants said: Ipswich fans will be loving this if a points deduction gets applied this season. It won’t, more than likely will be a points deduction suspended for when Leicester return to the premier league Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Hairy 3,781 Posted March 22 Best thing about this is all the binners I've seen getting excited not understanding these are Premier league charges not EFL ones. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dylanisabaddog 4,987 Posted March 22 11 hours ago, TheGunnShow said: Now what about the big fry? I like this attempt to clean up the act a bit, but no disrespect to Everton, Forest and Leicester, they're hardly the three big offenders, are they? Manchester City, I'm looking at you. As @Virtual realityhas said, it's a huge number of charges at least one of which is potentially criminal in nature. That alleged offence will involve HMRC who may decide to prosecute. All very complex and bearing in mind the extremely aggressive and non cooperative approach that the club's legal advisers took during the UEFA enquiry it may be some time yet. If found guilty of all charges it is possible they will be expelled from the Premier League and Football League. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creedence Clearwater Couto 1,297 Posted March 22 6 hours ago, Yobocop said: It won’t, more than likely will be a points deduction suspended for when Leicester return to the premier league Which will help Ipswich, if they go up with Leicester. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creedence Clearwater Couto 1,297 Posted March 22 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Ken Hairy said: Best thing about this is all the binners I've seen getting excited not understanding these are Premier league charges not EFL ones. Again, may still help them next season. And maybe us. Edited March 22 by Creedence Clearwater Couto Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yobocop 1,105 Posted March 22 1 hour ago, Creedence Clearwater Couto said: Which will help Ipswich, if they go up with Leicester. True Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Hairy 3,781 Posted March 22 2 hours ago, Creedence Clearwater Couto said: Which will help Ipswich, if they go up with Leicester. They won't, this is Ipswich blowing it is their bag. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,678 Posted March 22 All these rules do are keep the top clubs in their place and unthreatened. Talk of Villa having to sell players to keep on the right side of these rules even if they finish top 4. Either let it be a full on money spaffing free for all or put it some rules to actually level the playing field. This half way house **** does nothing for the good of the game. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,277 Posted March 22 Setting aside the benefit to Ipswich should both be promoted, it still passes me off Leicester have had a potentially 'unfair' advantage in this year's Championship. It's not the first time either, they did it about 10 year ago. Ipswich fans may not be so chirpy though if they miss out on the autos and then lose the play-offs and Leicester go up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings of a Sparrow 1,428 Posted March 22 (edited) Man City are threatening to take the 119 (or whatever it is) charges through the courts individually, so in effect this would take years and years to complete. Expect a perfunctory slap on the wrists, in the way off a one off, greatly reduced fine and a minimal points deduction, be a good boy and don't do it again. Edited March 22 by Wings of a Sparrow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobJames 891 Posted March 22 18 hours ago, GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary said: We're selling to balance our books as a self funding club , to clubs who cant afford it and are cheating the system Hope justice is done Incorrect Players chose to move, for varied reasons We use the money to increase our spending (note the word increase) We would balance the books whether those sales amounted to £100m or £100 To infer that we spend THEN sell players to cover the cost is getting it a**e about face Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,280 Posted March 22 This would be spot on if it was the same for everyone, but it isn’t. Remember Villa, broke all the EFL financial rules to get promoted. Yet because they became a PL club nothing could be done about it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 1,800 Posted March 22 9 minutes ago, RobJames said: Incorrect Players chose to move, for varied reasons We use the money to increase our spending (note the word increase) We would balance the books whether those sales amounted to £100m or £100 To infer that we spend THEN sell players to cover the cost is getting it a**e about face ...we sold Godfrey to Everton to cover the shortfall during Covid...to 'balance' our books That was obviously something they werent particularly bothered by and look whats happened to them Maybe thd media who were hammering us for 'not giving it a go' when we were in the premier league by not spending money we didnt have and running ourselves into more debt may think twice when they see these other clubs being docked points Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Google Bot 3,315 Posted March 22 7 hours ago, dylanisabaddog said: If found guilty of all charges it is possible they will be expelled from the Premier League and Football League. Which would enable them to fast-track on plans to form a breakaway, they've been caught engaging in secret talks in the past. The multi-billion state ownership have far bigger plans than supporting the traditions of our game. This is why there will be no such action as long as these clubs are happy to exist in the pyramid. Otherwise the prem league would be committing hara-kiri. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lazza 25 Posted March 22 1 hour ago, GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary said: That was obviously something they werent particularly bothered by and look whats happened to them They were given a points deduction and are still likely to survive. So for them, it was a gamble that has paid off. That's what is wrong with the ruling as it is. If you can get away with it, whether that's buying promotion, or avoiding relegation, then it's worth gambling on breaking the rules. Any team that tries to avoid breaking the rules, because they can't afford to gamble on losing 4 points, is at a disadvantage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 1,800 Posted March 22 10 minutes ago, Lazza said: They were given a points deduction and are still likely to survive. So for them, it was a gamble that has paid off. That's what is wrong with the ruling as it is. If you can get away with it, whether that's buying promotion, or avoiding relegation, then it's worth gambling on breaking the rules. Any team that tries to avoid breaking the rules, because they can't afford to gamble on losing 4 points, is at a disadvantage. ...lets see where they are if they get docked even more points this season.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 3,317 Posted March 22 2 hours ago, GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary said: ...we sold Godfrey to Everton to cover the shortfall during Covid...to 'balance' our books That was obviously something they werent particularly bothered by and look whats happened to them Maybe thd media who were hammering us for 'not giving it a go' when we were in the premier league by not spending money we didnt have and running ourselves into more debt may think twice when they see these other clubs being docked points Don’t bother he’s only here to try and get arguments going, of course we’ve had to sell to balance the books, that’s the club we have! Maddison, Ashton as you correctly say. Without these sales we would have found ourselves in some challenging position, but we’ve got a good academy set up and our scouting has been good in the past. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corbs1 90 Posted March 22 The rather dull premier is being enlivened by its own FFP league fluctuations Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corbs1 90 Posted March 22 3 hours ago, GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary said: Maybe thd media who were hammering us for 'not giving it a go' True Share this post Link to post Share on other sites