Norfolk born James Dyson, a generous man

[Herman 9,770]

42 minutes ago, Naturalcynic said:

I see the usual suspects are out in force to shower their bile and spittle at Dyson.  Presumably it’s a kinder gentler form of hate.

Patriotic people hate seeing their country shafted by greedy and selfish twats like Dyson. We don't fete someone just because they're stinking rich. See also Jim Ratcliffe, Tim Wetherspoon, Aaron Banks, Crispin Odey etc.etc.etc.

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Part of the money is to provide a field studies centre to provide outreach programmes for local schools and residential stays. 

[Parma Ham's gone mouldy 2,220]

Attanasio ok though?

Parma

[LaUnionCanary 86]

4 hours ago, TheGunnShow said:

Exactly. Easy to pretend to be generous when you make yourself very wealthy off the backs of many others and then use every trick in the book (some of which may not be legitimate, as Bernie Ecclestone found out) to minimise what you rightly owe.

Or as the old "Queen of Mean", Leona Helmsley put it, "we don't pay taxes, only the little people pay taxes".

You do realise he got extremely rich by inventions his Gresham schooling had given him the freedom of thought t progress and finance his ideas. Not sure how " backs of others" can ever come in to play here.

[Crafty Canary 495]

I just smile at the small minded jealousy of the ´I haven’t got it so no one else should have it’ attitude of so many posters. He used his abilities to create a product that sold big and used the turnover to build up his business and employ more and more creative people to expand it further. How he invests his wealth is his business as is how he spends it. 
the Asian markets are huge so it makes sense to set up business there. If their business tax rates are more competitive than the UK’s then maybe the UK rates should be revisited. 
Good luck to him and BTW he is too sensible to waste his money by giving it to a football club  especially one owned by a pair of octogenarian amateurs.

[Parma Ham's gone mouldy 2,220]

Who was selling Holt Hall and why?

Who gained from selling it?

Who would have been an acceptable buyer? Were they offered a fair chance to bid for it? 

Parma 

[Wroxham Bridge 23]

He prefers the Oval ball, his UK residence is just outside Bath and he is active within the Bath Rugby Club.

[Capt. Pants 4,236]

2 hours ago, Parma Ham's gone mouldy said:

Attanasio ok though?

Parma

Yeah perfect nothing to see here.

[Nuff Said 5,142]

6 hours ago, Parma Ham's gone mouldy said:

What if he avoided UK tax and spent the difference on Norwich City?

What about if he didn’t invest 20% of £23bn in Norwich City because he instead paid it to the UK taxman and could have legally avoided it and got us into the Champions League instead?

Would that be ok?

Parma 

As many others have also said, no, it wouldn’t be ok. But looking at the Premier League it wouldn’t be exceptional either.

[nutty nigel 7,537]

Strange fascination with other people's money and how it could trump sporting achievement. Perhaps we should just support owners wealth...

[essex canary 496]

5 hours ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said:

It actually pains me that two of the most odious businessman in the country, Dyson and Tim Martin, were both born in Norfolk. 

Martin provides a competitively priced service for the general public, isn't that a little bit different to financing Greshams?

[Naturalcynic 631]

1 hour ago, Crafty Canary said:

I just smile at the small minded jealousy of the ´I haven’t got it so no one else should have it’ attitude of so many posters. He used his abilities to create a product that sold big and used the turnover to build up his business and employ more and more creative people to expand it further. How he invests his wealth is his business as is how he spends it. 
the Asian markets are huge so it makes sense to set up business there. If their business tax rates are more competitive than the UK’s then maybe the UK rates should be revisited. 
Good luck to him and BTW he is too sensible to waste his money by giving it to a football club  especially one owned by a pair of octogenarian amateurs.

Standard nastiness from the kinder gentler left.

[TheGunnShow 5,940]

2 hours ago, LaUnionCanary said:

You do realise he got extremely rich by inventions his Gresham schooling had given him the freedom of thought t progress and finance his ideas. Not sure how " backs of others" can ever come in to play here.

If you avoid/mitigate taxes, then you are essentially getting the taxpayer to subsidise your wealth. That is how "backs of others" comes into play.

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7 hours ago, TheGunnShow said:

Exactly. Easy to pretend to be generous when you make yourself very wealthy off the backs of many others and then use every trick in the book (some of which may not be legitimate, as Bernie Ecclestone found out) to minimise what you rightly owe.

Or as the old "Queen of Mean", Leona Helmsley put it, "we don't pay taxes, only the little people pay taxes".

Exactly. You've got to be really dumb to pay taxes.

[Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB 1,024]

4 minutes ago, Big Vince said:

Exactly. You've got to be really dumb to pay taxes.

You have also got to be dumb to post something like this, unless you think everybody should be self employed or on benefits.............

[Big Vince 318]

1 hour ago, Crafty Canary said:

I just smile at the small minded jealousy of the ´I haven’t got it so no one else should have it’ attitude of so many posters. He used his abilities to create a product that sold big and used the turnover to build up his business and employ more and more creative people to expand it further. How he invests his wealth is his business as is how he spends it. 
the Asian markets are huge so it makes sense to set up business there. If their business tax rates are more competitive than the UK’s then maybe the UK rates should be revisited. 
Good luck to him and BTW he is too sensible to waste his money by giving it to a football club  especially one owned by a pair of octogenarian amateurs.

Hear here. Explaining how capitalism works for the benefit of all is wasted ink because posters on here and the English in general are far too narrow minded and deeply socialist in thinking that the state should do everything for them and intervene in every single aspect of life to the extent that freedom scarcely exists.

[Big Vince 318]

2 minutes ago, Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB said:

You have also got to be dumb to post something like this, unless you think everybody should be self employed or on benefits.............

Paying tax to the govt has got to be the ultimate in dumbness because, for instance, they will invest £2.3 billion of it in HS2 rail links that will never be built. If that wasted taxpayers money had been diverted to Norwich City instead we would now be looking at a Champions League final.

[essex canary 496]

The Queen of Iceni to storm the Lion and Castle. Bring it on!

[Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB 1,024]

43 minutes ago, Big Vince said:

Paying tax to the govt has got to be the ultimate in dumbness because, for instance, they will invest £2.3 billion of it in HS2 rail links that will never be built. If that wasted taxpayers money had been diverted to Norwich City instead we would now be looking at a Champions League final.

I do not disagree with the sentiment......but.........most of the working population are on a payroll and therefore PAYE so do not have a lot of choice in the matter.................

[PurpleCanary 5,562]

The UK is a low-tax country. It is 23rd in the OECD list, with the only non-European country above it being Canada. The only European countries below it are Latvia, Lithuania and the Irish Republic. Coincidentally or not the UK spends less on healthcare than comparable European countries and as a percentage of GDP the amount is falling rather than rising or staying level.

[Nuff Said 5,142]

5 hours ago, Naturalcynic said:

I see the usual suspects are out in force to shower their bile and spittle at Dyson.  Presumably it’s a kinder gentler form of hate.

The right have clearly redefined “hate” in a similar way to “woke”. The former means objecting to someone we like and the latter means expressing an opinion we feel uncomfortable about. Poor snowflakes.

[Herman 9,770]

1 hour ago, Big Vince said:

Hear here. Explaining how capitalism works for the benefit of all is wasted ink because posters on here and the English in general are far too narrow minded and deeply socialist in thinking that the state should do everything for them and intervene in every single aspect of life to the extent that freedom scarcely exists.

We all know how capitalism should work but at the moment it is only benefitting a very small percentage of the populace. If you want it to survive, as our way of doing things, then it needs serious repairs.

[littleyellowbirdie 2,551]

He was attending the school when, at nine years old, his father died. The school opted to pay his fees for him to see him through school there.

He tried to donate 6 million quid for a science centre at a state primary school, but the DfE rejected it. The rejection was based on a belief in the DfE that the investment would harm neighbouring schools.

https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/2023/3-november/news/uk/department-for-education-says-no-to-dyson-s-6-million-donation-to-church-school

Edited November 18, 2023 by littleyellowbirdie

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2 hours ago, Parma Ham's gone mouldy said:

Who was selling Holt Hall and why?

Who gained from selling it?

Who would have been an acceptable buyer? Were they offered a fair chance to bid for it? 

Parma 

Norfolk County Council

It was losing money (according to Norfolk County Council)

Norfolk County Council

It was bought by Graham School for £4.25M (Before they had any money from Mr Dyson)

I am assuming that as it was being sold by a public body its sale was publicly advertised and anyone could submit a bid.

I understand that Norfolk County Council will use some of the proceeds to build school(s) for children with special educational needs. I also understand that Gresham will be offering outreach services to local school children from the redeveloped Holt Hall..............

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8 minutes ago, littleyellowbirdie said:

He was attending the school when, at nine years old, his father died. The school opted to pay his fees for him to see him through school there.

His father was a teacher at the school at the time, the head gave him and his brother a free bursary to enable them to continue their education and clearly he is repaying the school for what they did for him.........

 

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1 minute ago, Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB said:

His father was a teacher at the school at the time, the head gave him and his brother a free bursary to enable them to continue their education and clearly he is repaying the school for what they did for him.........

 

...and was trying to do something for a state school near where his company was based, but it was rebuffed. Can't blame him if the government turns down his money.

[norfolkngood 1,087]

2 hours ago, Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB said:

You have also got to be dumb to post something like this, unless you think everybody should be self employed or on benefits.............

I Have my own business  i have to pay yearly plus i even have to pay 6 months up front  as a Self Employed Person 

[Creedence Clearwater Couto 1,276]

7 hours ago, Worthy Nigelton said:

The batteries last for about half a room and the filters block on day 2. Not to mention they don't pick up much stuff unless you put it on max power, in which case the batteries will see you through a small doormat.

Tell her to stop winging 😉

[Crafty Canary 495]

2 hours ago, PurpleCanary said:

…….Coincidentally or not the UK spends less on healthcare than comparable European countries and as a percentage of GDP the amount is falling rather than rising or staying level.

It’s not just how much is invested bit also how effectively it is spent. I liken the NHS to a bath without a plug, it can be filled if the water is poured in faster than it drains through the plughole but it’s not an effective use of the water. 

[chicken 2,627]

I'd love to know more of the detail on this. The cynic in me can't help but feel that, like most private schools, they have their own "charity" which wealthy folk can gift money to.

In other words, Dyson is likely to be benefitting from this in a way he couldn't if he invested it into a football club in terms of shares or just in the squad etc. He could have given it to the community sports foundation so it could then be spent on things like the Nest and Carrow Park as well as schemes helping children and schools though. 

What no one seems to have pointed out is that he is probably the biggest hypocrite going when it comes to Brexit. I have absolutely no real issue at this point with which way you voted or feel you should have voted by now - but this chap, this chap is a precise example of why you cannot trust anyone to not feather their own nest.

I believe he used EU grants to move production of his products to Asia and then slammed the EU for destroying British industry and the economy. It's almost as bad as Philip Green saying there was no money left in the coffers as he ran off with it all in his van.