Yellow Wal 314 Posted May 15, 2022 Usual comments from some 'supporters'. If we lose Norwich are terrible. If we win or draw the opposition were terrible. 4 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted May 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Ken Hairy said: Happy to oblige Billy boy, one dull display, which was criticised by Birtles virtually all match won't sway my opinion that these players are not good enough and won't be next season. Big changes needed still. Won't go that far about next season but if someone had said that was two Championship clubs playing, I wouldn't have been shocked. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,301 Posted May 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, Ken Hairy said: Happy to oblige Billy boy, one dull display, which was criticised by Birtles virtually all match won't sway my opinion that these players are not good enough and won't be next season. Big changes needed still. Oh dear! same old tosh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted May 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Yellow Wal said: Usual comments from some 'supporters'. If we lose Norwich are terrible. If we win or draw the opposition were terrible. So that is five times the opposition were terrible this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,301 Posted May 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Ken Hairy said: So predictions? Based on this line up, 6-0 to Wolves, they go 1 up within 5 minutes we utterly capitulate Well done mystic smeg! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monty13 2,235 Posted May 15, 2022 Don’t understand some of these comments. Other than the comical defending fir the goal that was easily one of our best away performances against a very good side. If we’d had a few more of these maybe the Spurs game would matter. Pleased those lads finally showed some grit and determination. Nice to see tactical fouls and tackles flying in, just all a bit late. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarybubbles 1,923 Posted May 15, 2022 I'm no fan of Smith at all, but the 5-3-2 worked today and we could have been out of sight by half-time. Not sure how much of that was an under-par Wolves. For some reason they seem to be a team we can play against: three games this season and no defeats. It's the ones with bruising midfielders we can't cope with. Wolves try to pass the ball in an open game, and I think that suits us. Still no fan of Smith, though, and since this result and performance make it even more likely we keep him next season, my feelings are mixed if I'm honest. And those of you who are pro-Smith, you can't give him credit for this without also giving him the blame for other unexpected teamsheets that resulted in woeful performances. It works both ways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Hairy 3,773 Posted May 15, 2022 1 minute ago, horsefly said: Well done mystic smeg! Love a Smeg, cool retro look. 👍 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dylanisabaddog 4,931 Posted May 15, 2022 Just now, Ken Hairy said: Love a Smeg, cool retro look. 👍 Boris is a fan apparently 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 6,735 Posted May 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Ken Hairy said: Love a Smeg, cool retro look. 👍 What did you call me? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted May 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Monty13 said: Don’t understand some of these comments. Other than the comical defending fir the goal that was easily one of our best away performances against a very good side. If we’d had a few more of these maybe the Spurs game would matter. Pleased those lads finally showed some grit and determination. Nice to see tactical fouls and tackles flying in, just all a bit late. Its balls and auntie time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,301 Posted May 15, 2022 Just now, Ken Hairy said: Love a Smeg, cool retro look. 👍 Perhaps you should join Boris Johnson inside there, he likes to hide from his failures too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Greenthumb 750 Posted May 15, 2022 15 minutes ago, hogesar said: Oh, so the manager doesn't get it right unless we win? What a bizarre understanding of football. A point at Wolves is excellent, credit to Smith for not listening to the noise Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Hairy 3,773 Posted May 15, 2022 Just now, horsefly said: Perhaps you should join Boris Johnson inside there, he likes to hide from his failures too. I'll be busy joining Keir on his next curry and beer night Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,661 Posted May 15, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said: Fair play to us for not bottling it in the end, but really did show what changing things up can do. Was a bit of a lucky goal from Wolves and any other day Pukki would have had a hatrick but hey we didnt lose! See, here’s the thing - love Pukki as I do, he has missed a number of excellent chances this season - for example two last week and two this week. He’ll be great in the Champs but it doesn’t help in the PL when you have a leaky defence if your main guy needs five excellent chances to score once. Edited May 15, 2022 by Branston Pickle 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted May 15, 2022 19 minutes ago, hogesar said: Oh, so the manager doesn't get it right unless we win? What a bizarre understanding of football. Well well. Mr Hate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shaunieboy77 73 Posted May 15, 2022 Wolves are 8th and have lost the same amount of games as Burnley who are in the bottom 3. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,246 Posted May 15, 2022 Haven't followed the today's game at all. Unless we had to win we would have accepted a point all day long. Not losing away to the team laying in 8th stops the rot and is something to build on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarybubbles 1,923 Posted May 15, 2022 9 minutes ago, Branston Pickle said: See, here’s the thing - love Pukki as I do, he has missed a number of excellent chances this season - for example two last week and two this week. He’ll be great in the Champs but it doesn’t help in the PL when you have a leaky defence if your main guy needs five excellent chances to score once. All strikers - even the very best - miss chances. He's scored more than 50% of our goals this season (if you discount OG). He's not ballooning it over from five yards out. He's failing to take clear-cut opportunities which still need to be perfectly executed. Pukki is the least of our worries. We need to sort out the other ten first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greavsy 2,415 Posted May 15, 2022 24 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said: Its balls and auntie time Always nice when the family pops over on a Sunday evening! Enjoy KG! 😉 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,661 Posted May 15, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, canarybubbles said: All strikers - even the very best - miss chances. He's scored more than 50% of our goals this season (if you discount OG). He's not ballooning it over from five yards out. He's failing to take clear-cut opportunities which still need to be perfectly executed. Pukki is the least of our worries. We need to sort out the other ten first. I certainly don’t disagree about other roles - our defence has been too leaky for many a year, and perhaps DF’s biggest flaw - but when you’re creating relatively few chances you need a better than 20% conversion rate, surely? Edited May 15, 2022 by Branston Pickle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sgncfc 1,228 Posted May 15, 2022 I have some sympathy with Pukki because he has little or no quality alongside him, and he generally creates all his own chances with his movement but Branston is right - good strikers at this level convert more chances. It's not like the ones he misses are even half chances. Vardy, for instance, would have scored 4 today. We should have won comfortably. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarybubbles 1,923 Posted May 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, Branston Pickle said: I certainly don’t disagree about defence - it has been too leaky for many a year, and perhaps DF’s biggest flaw - but when you’re creating relatively few chances you need a better than 20% conversion rate, surely? First, it's difficult to come up with a figure for conversion rate without some kind of complex formula. Not all chances are equal. Sargent's against Brighton was something like 99%; Pukki's chance that hit the inside of the post last week was probably less than 50%, given that there was a defender close so it would have hit the defender or gone wide if anything except a perfect contact with the ball was made. Second, where have you got your 20% conversion rate from? Did you just decide it from watching the games? If so, other people might decide on a different figure arrived at intuitively. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,676 Posted May 15, 2022 41 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said: Well well. Mr Hate. No hate. Just confusion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,661 Posted May 15, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, canarybubbles said: Second, where have you got your 20% conversion rate from? Did you just decide it from watching the games? If so, other people might decide on a different figure arrived at intuitively. He had two fantastic opportunities missed today, two last week, scored one = 20% over the last two games. Whatever, it’s splitting hairs - you simply can’t miss great chances regularly at this level. But clearly our issues are more in m/f and defence. Edited May 15, 2022 by Branston Pickle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarybubbles 1,923 Posted May 15, 2022 6 minutes ago, sgncfc said: I have some sympathy with Pukki because he has little or no quality alongside him, and he generally creates all his own chances with his movement but Branston is right - good strikers at this level convert more chances. It's not like the ones he misses are even half chances. Vardy, for instance, would have scored 4 today. We should have won comfortably. Why are people focusing on Pukki tonight? Yes, he missed a couple of chances, neither of which were remotely 'sitters'. We have a sh*t midfield which neither protects the defence nor creates/scores chances, a shaky defence which always has a howler in it, limited wing players whose all-round game is poor, and yet people are attacking perhaps the only player we have who is 'Premier League class', even if it is only lower PL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,661 Posted May 15, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, canarybubbles said: Why are people focusing on Pukki tonight? Yes, he missed a couple of chances, neither of which were remotely 'sitters'. We have a sh*t midfield which neither protects the defence nor creates/scores chances, a shaky defence which always has a howler in it, limited wing players whose all-round game is poor, and yet people are attacking perhaps the only player we have who is 'Premier League class', even if it is only lower PL. Don’t think they are - I merely replied to one of Cambs millions of comments suggesting that Pukki ought to have had a hat trick today. He’s been great for us, just that imo needs a better chance:goals ratio in the PL. Edited May 15, 2022 by Branston Pickle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dylanisabaddog 4,931 Posted May 15, 2022 52 minutes ago, Ken Hairy said: I'll be busy joining Keir on his next curry and beer night Sadly you need to work for 10 hours beforehand and a couple after so probably rules you out🙄 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,609 Posted May 15, 2022 13 minutes ago, Branston Pickle said: I certainly don’t disagree about other roles - our defence has been too leaky for many a year, and perhaps DF’s biggest flaw - but when you’re creating relatively few chances you need a better than 20% conversion rate, surely? 20% isn't actually bad by most standards. Pukki this season has an xg of 11.33 and has scored 11 goals suggesting he's basically performing where he should be with regards to finishing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 5,145 Posted May 15, 2022 58 minutes ago, Ken Hairy said: I'll be busy joining Keir on his next curry and beer night You’ll be out of luck then since he only had one. Unlike the seemingly endless stream of parties, birthday cake ambushes and suitcases full of wine at Downing Street. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites