Branston Pickle 3,659 Posted August 9, 2021 Hopefully a ‘surprise’ signing will also pop up (a la PLM/Rashica) in the cb/dcm mould Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,234 Posted August 9, 2021 It will be touch and go for Saturday then. Hope Cantwell is fit. Feel we need some good news on transfers soon especially areas we are weak. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 6,720 Posted August 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, Capt. Pants said: It will be touch and go for Saturday then. Hope Cantwell is fit. Feel we need some good news on transfers soon especially areas we are weak. On the plus side for us Robertson and van Dijk might be out for Liverpool Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,234 Posted August 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said: On the plus side for us Robertson and van Dijk might be out for Liverpool Alexander Arnold has only played 90 mins as well. Mind you that's more than some of our players! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,234 Posted August 9, 2021 We'd better hope PAOK lose then. The prospect of ECL football might be a better lure than Norwich! Hopefully this transfer is set in stone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cerberus 0 Posted August 9, 2021 In relation to PAOK, ECL is the Europa Conference League. This is the new competition which Spurs are in and is way less lucrative than the European Champions League, let alone the Europa League. The main prize for the winner of the Europa Conference League is automatic qualification for the Europa League - so not a huge draw for leading clubs who are aiming to qualify for these tournaments by right of their domestic league position. I would be surprised if this is the real reason for the hold up of Tzolis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ward 3 372 Posted August 9, 2021 1 hour ago, BobLoz3 said: The Pinkun boys said Tzolis is expected towards the back end of this week in the chat today. Still on. Hopefully we hear some more good news soon! I really hope we get tzolis. Very excited by this transfer. Be gutted if he doesn't arrive Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,294 Posted August 9, 2021 Exec jet just landed at Norwich from Bremen...... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cerberus 0 Posted August 9, 2021 Also, Thursday's tie for PAOK only potentially gets them through to the next round of qualifying and not the main competition. If they beat Bohemians they then have to play the winner of Hibs or Rijeka (featuring a certain Josip Drmic). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fiery Zac 1,066 Posted August 9, 2021 5 hours ago, yellowrider120 said: Really?? https://thefightingcock.co.uk/forum/threads/oliver-skipp.27499/page-101 Yes really. Spurs opinion doesn’t end with that forum Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 1,558 Posted August 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, Cerberus said: In relation to PAOK, ECL is the Europa Conference League. This is the new competition which Spurs are in and is way less lucrative than the European Champions League, let alone the Europa League. The main prize for the winner of the Europa Conference League is automatic qualification for the Europa League - so not a huge draw for leading clubs who are aiming to qualify for these tournaments by right of their domestic league position. I would be surprised if this is the real reason for the hold up of Tzolis. Getting to the group stage could still be worth £5m - £6m for PAOK in additional TV revenue and potential win bonuses. That’s a big amount of money for a Greek Super League team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,234 Posted August 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Cerberus said: Also, Thursday's tie for PAOK only potentially gets them through to the next round of qualifying and not the main competition. If they beat Bohemians they then have to play the winner of Hibs or Rijeka (featuring a certain Josip Drmic). Cheers for the clarification 👍 Sounds as though they are stringing us along a bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yellowrider120 762 Posted August 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Fiery Zac said: Yes really. Spurs opinion doesn’t end with that forum True of course and I very much hope your optimism on landing said player (again) is justified. I somehow doubt it. Even if Spurs do sanction another loan I feel we will have much more competition than last time. Newcastle are said to have enquired and there will be others. Skipp liked it here and that may help us if such a scenario arose but I think the chances are close to zero as I said before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cerberus 0 Posted August 9, 2021 Bethnal, Oh dear - final qualifying game not until 26th August. Perhaps that explains the line being fed to MFW by the club about Tzolis taking time, although Sexy Bennett appeared to dispute this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yelloow Since 72 54 Posted August 9, 2021 It seems a private jet from Bremen has just landed at Norwich Airport. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 1,558 Posted August 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Cerberus said: Bethnal, Oh dear - final qualifying game not until 26th August. Perhaps that explains the line being fed to MFW by the club about Tzolis taking time, although Sexy Bennett appeared to dispute this. I know, but with a 2-1 deficit from the first leg I can see why they wouldn’t want to sell what most of their fans regard as their best player before the 2nd leg. Werder Bremen’s head coach told the press that even though a fee had been agreed for Sargent, Norwich allowed him to play in their cup game at the weekend. Sargent himself then said that he didn’t feel capable of giving his all in the game so wasn’t played. I’m sure if Norwich came to such an agreement with Bremen they might do the same with PAOK over a game much more important. All the details of the deal haven’t been finalised yet, but the game on Thursday does seem to be a consideration on the PAOK side. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fiery Zac 1,066 Posted August 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, yellowrider120 said: True of course and I very much hope your optimism on landing said player (again) is justified. I somehow doubt it. Even if Spurs do sanction another loan I feel we will have much more competition than last time. Newcastle are said to have enquired and there will be others. Skipp liked it here and that may help us if such a scenario arose but I think the chances are close to zero as I said before. Yes and I’m not saying we will get Skipp, just being optimistic about the fact we haven’t got a second loan in or a DM and so there’s a possibility we’re waiting for Spurs signings and a decision on Skipp from Nuno. Even that forum isn’t particularly informative or conclusive as it’s mainly people saying “we don’t have anyone better” without any real knowledge of him as a player or how he played for us last season. It seems very much loyalty to a Spurs youngster and the fact they have other rubbish as central midfielders that make Skipp the best option they’ve got. Articles I’ve read and podcasts listened to seem to think Skipp is great at pressing but has been played in the wrong position in pre season and with little chance to play in his correct place (Hojbjerg will be their DM), he would be better off going on loan again to play regularly on the PL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,820 Posted August 9, 2021 24 minutes ago, Yelloow Since 72 said: It seems a private jet from Bremen has just landed at Norwich Airport. Takes me back to the entire afternoon I spent tracking Ibrahim Amadou's flight from Seville. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,294 Posted August 9, 2021 9 minutes ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said: Takes me back to the entire afternoon I spent tracking Ibrahim Amadou's flight from Seville. Bet that was a bit of a spain in the neck..... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FenwayFrank 2,459 Posted August 9, 2021 Is he walking to the ground from Rackheath ? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ward 3 372 Posted August 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, FenwayFrank said: Is he walking to the ground from Rackheath ? Running on the NDR mate. If he can have a run on the NDR he'll pass his medical 😂 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yelloow Since 72 54 Posted August 9, 2021 18 minutes ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said: Takes me back to the entire afternoon I spent tracking Ibrahim Amadou's flight from Seville. I didn't track it but saw it on the not 606 board. According to Google, PadAviation is located in Buren, south of Bremen, so it looks legit. It arrived at around 16.45. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FenwayFrank 2,459 Posted August 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, Ward 3 said: Running on the NDR mate. If he can have a run on the NDR he'll pass his medical 😂 He’s going to have an accident on one of those roundabouts ! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthCarolinaYellow 197 Posted August 9, 2021 Assuming Tzolis and Sargent materialize AND that Cantwell stays ... I'm feeling increasingly optimistic about our chances of staying up BUT am surprised by the general negativity? Obviously, the 3-0 thumping against Newcastle was not ideal but it seems clear to me there have been several incremental improvements overall that should results in a better points turnaround compared with 19-20? At a minimum, I think we can agree that Pukki, Cantwell, Rashica, Tzolis, Sargent, Dowell, Hernández, Idah, Płacheta > Pukki, Cantwell, Buendia, Drmić, Vrančić, Hernández, Stiepermann, Idah, Roberts, Srbeny offensively?? Not massively, of course, but better. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WD40 720 Posted August 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, NorthCarolinaYellow said: Assuming Tzolis and Sargent materialize AND that Cantwell stays ... I'm feeling increasingly optimistic about our chances of staying up BUT am surprised by the general negativity? Obviously, the 3-0 thumping against Newcastle was not ideal but it seems clear to me there have been several incremental improvements overall that should results in a better points turnaround compared with 19-20? At a minimum, I think we can agree that Pukki, Cantwell, Rashica, Tzolis, Sargent, Dowell, Hernández, Idah, Płacheta > Pukki, Cantwell, Buendia, Drmić, Vrančić, Hernández, Stiepermann, Idah, Roberts, Srbeny offensively?? Not massively, of course, but better. Maybe on paper but blooding in 3 new players to a new team with next to no pre-season is a recipe for disaster. The fact most of those players in 19/20 season had chemistry of working together before was a massive plus, and it worked well the first 5-10 games of the season. Then we got injuries and teams found us out and it was incredibly dire. We all hope that we’ll be finding new and multiple ways of scoring goals and winning matches (instead of just Emi through ball to Pukki), but it’s speculation that we’ll get there. Defensively we’re better with Gibson but do need another body. Consider my pants not wet, but damp. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WD40 720 Posted August 9, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, WD40 said: Consider my pants not wet, but damp. @NorthCarolinaYellow And being from America as you are I should clarify “pant wetting” is an English expression of ‘a state of nervousness/fear’. It doesn’t mean what perhaps your average American will think it means… Edited August 9, 2021 by WD40 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cantiaci Canary 557 Posted August 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, NorthCarolinaYellow said: Assuming Tzolis and Sargent materialize AND that Cantwell stays ... I'm feeling increasingly optimistic about our chances of staying up BUT am surprised by the general negativity? Obviously, the 3-0 thumping against Newcastle was not ideal but it seems clear to me there have been several incremental improvements overall that should results in a better points turnaround compared with 19-20? At a minimum, I think we can agree that Pukki, Cantwell, Rashica, Tzolis, Sargent, Dowell, Hernández, Idah, Płacheta > Pukki, Cantwell, Buendia, Drmić, Vrančić, Hernández, Stiepermann, Idah, Roberts, Srbeny offensively?? Not massively, of course, but better. Struggling to see three teams weaker than us though! I think the Prem is getting stronger and stronger. Even the 'weaker' sides are awash with experienced internationals and funding. Ultimately, we just don't know how good PLM, Rashica, Tzolis and Sargent will be do we? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthCarolinaYellow 197 Posted August 9, 2021 1 minute ago, WD40 said: @NorthCarolinaYellow And being from America as you are I should clarify “pant wetting” is an English expression of ‘a state of nervousness/fear’. It doesn’t mean what perhaps your average American will think it means… 🤣 I was getting excited that you were getting so excited!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthCarolinaYellow 197 Posted August 9, 2021 Just now, Cantiaci Canary said: Struggling to see three teams weaker than us though! I think the Prem is getting stronger and stronger. Even the 'weaker' sides are awash with experienced internationals and funding. Ultimately, we just don't know how good PLM, Rashica, Tzolis and Sargent will be do we? Oh, I totally agree with this. Taking in marginal improvements and taking out horrific luck ... I think we're optimistically 6-10 points better? Problem is that in 19-20 we needed 14 to touch 17th! 🙃 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted August 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, Cantiaci Canary said: Struggling to see three teams weaker than us though! I think the Prem is getting stronger and stronger. Even the 'weaker' sides are awash with experienced internationals and funding. Ultimately, we just don't know how good PLM, Rashica, Tzolis and Sargent will be do we? It is not necessarily the supposed strength of the squad, it is how they perform So i would not judge any potential on that alone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites