kick it off 1,952 Posted May 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Canary Wundaboy said: There's a line on this forum, it's often blurred, bent and pushed at, but you've just blown through it. Do you even appreciate how utterly distasteful and disgusting that comment is? I concur with KIO, go **** yourself. Reported. At least we know that the hypothesis put forward the other day about support for Cummings and a correlation in a debased moral compass has some solid basis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crafty Canary 496 Posted May 28, 2020 I’d place Dominic Cummings about midway between Stalin and Adolf Hitler. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,775 Posted May 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Crafty Canary said: 60000 deaths? That’s not what the ONS have reported. Even with your exaggerated figure that is about 0.09% of the UK population. Tragic for the families concerned but still much less than the annual death rate from cancer for comparison. So yes, well done to the government even if the hard lefties hate it. The annual cancer death rate is still going on. That hasn't stopped for Covid. https://www.ft.com/content/6b4c784e-c259-4ca4-9a82-648ffde71bf0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFish 1,988 Posted May 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, Crafty Canary said: 60000 deaths? That’s not what the ONS have reported. Even with your exaggerated figure that is about 0.09% of the UK population. Tragic for the families concerned but still much less than the annual death rate from cancer for comparison. So yes, well done to the government even if the hard lefties hate it. The UK has registered 59,537 more deaths than usual since the week ending March 20, indicating that the virus has directly or indirectly killed 891 people per million. You really are a nasty individual, so 60,000 deaths are worth a quibble on a football messageboard and it is ok because it is less than cancer. Many of these deaths are directly attributable to failings by this government and it is clear that the situation is not under control. The government has failed and people have paid for this with their lives. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFish 1,988 Posted May 28, 2020 11 minutes ago, Crafty Canary said: 60000 deaths? That’s not what the ONS have reported. Even with your exaggerated figure that is about 0.09% of the UK population. Tragic for the families concerned but still much less than the annual death rate from cancer for comparison. So yes, well done to the government even if the hard lefties hate it. More civilian deaths than WWII, well done Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,334 Posted May 28, 2020 16 minutes ago, Crafty Canary said: I’d place Dominic Cummings about midway between Stalin and Adolf Hitler. This being in a circle of extremes rather than a linear graph I assume. With an altruistic decent human being at the centre of the circle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted May 28, 2020 I suppose that was aimed at me Keelan? I offered a different viewpoint that's all I look at it from a different angle because that's how my brain works I'm sorry if that offends anyone Maybe you should rebuild the gas chambers and gas the minority ; Anyhow I've said my piece , judge away Until the next time You really have lost it. I said the public not posters on here. I couldn't give two monkeys what you think because the police said he broke the rules, however minor, which is something the Government and Cummings both deny. I have just watched the briefing and Boris still would not admit he had done anything wrong. But the majority of the public believe and know he did. I wanted to say that it was over. End of. He is staying unless something is found out. But you want to keep pushing it and now have over stepped the mark with the gassing remark. Perhaps you should resign. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 5,525 Posted May 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, Herman said: Â Looked far too uncomfortable to me that Whitty and Vallance were denied the chance to answer questions. Trumpian? Just what kind of government is this? Now the press are denied. Reminds me of countries that block freedoms. Worrying trend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crabbycanary3 994 Posted May 28, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Yellow Fever said: Here's the rub. Law Makers can't be Law Breakers. Yet that's what Cummings and by the PMs and Cabinet defence of such are. The rules and laws that they worded. Let alone the pathetic cover-up. I regard myself as law abiding yet I will not now accept any edict, unless I deem it sensible from such low life. I have standards of behaviour to uphold even if they clearly don't. That's the size of the damage they have done to their credibility in anything!    Yep, they are trying to dissect the semantics of it all. It's meant to be so straightforward that any of the great unwashed could interpret the rules simply. Millions put the country before their own interests. that has been totally flipped now. Boris just doesn't appreciate what he could have in his lap (take the country forward, no credible opposition) as he seems on such self implosion. We were talking the other day that Starmer, if he plays it right, could push and push Boris and the whole country would eventually benefit from a robust political challenge. At this rate, he may just need to sit back in his deckchair, sipping his Pina Colada. Edited May 28, 2020 by Crabbycanary3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,334 Posted May 28, 2020 There will be a tipping point when even the diehards ,yep, Bagster , Jools etc. Will realise what damage is being done to their beloved party and will turn on Cummins , Boris et al, as sure night becomes day. They may leave it too late , procrastination is the thief of time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 4,748 Posted May 28, 2020 Does anyone know when the evening entertainment is due to start ? 😜  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted May 28, 2020 I’d place Dominic Cummings about midway between Stalin and Adolf Hitler. Is that picture hanging on your lounge wall? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,334 Posted May 28, 2020 (edited) 38 minutes ago, TIL 1010 said: Does anyone know when the evening entertainment is due to start ? 😜  Sssshhhh, he's busy on another thread   , it's been quite good fun on here this afternoon without him spaffing his copy and paste **** all over this thread. **** short for Jissom . Edited May 28, 2020 by wcorkcanary 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 5,525 Posted May 28, 2020 6 hours ago, Van wink said: Local Councils, County in this case have only recently been written to. Local DPH have been marginalised until now. Would appear you're correct https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/may/28/ppe-testing-contact-tracing-shambles-outsourcing-coronavirus? Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted May 28, 2020 56 minutes ago, sonyc said: Looked far too uncomfortable to me that Whitty and Vallance were denied the chance to answer questions. Trumpian? Just what kind of government is this? Now the press are denied. Reminds me of countries that block freedoms. Worrying trend. I don’t like it either, the questions were not political but questions relating to behavioural science. They are not experts in that field but should still be allowed to express a view. Of course they both stated that they didn’t want to comment on political matters so it depends on how you define a political question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,775 Posted May 28, 2020 42 minutes ago, TIL 1010 said: Does anyone know when the evening entertainment is due to start ? 😜  Don't wake him up for goodness sakes.😲 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creative Midfielder 1,996 Posted May 28, 2020 3 hours ago, Bagster said: DC is not a Tory , some hate him for brexit, others hate him for his influence, others still hate him for his spending and not very Tory agenda Surprised you support them CM As you well know I don't, but that doesn't mean we can't have a common view about what is, and isn't, acceptable behaviour from senior figures in the government. You still seem hung up as to party - ****'s and Johnson's behaviour is viewed as completely unacceptable right across the political spectrum in Westminister and even more so amongst the general public This is not primarily because of ****'s original transgression but the lies and attempted cover up which followed. If Cummings had apologised and resigned, just as Neil Ferguson and the Chief Medical Officer (whose name still escapes me) in Scotland did, then we wouldn't still be discussing this, we'd have moved onto why the Government introduction of test, track and trace has been such a shambles but the way things are going they will still be plenty of time for that discussion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted May 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Bagster said: I suppose that was aimed at me Keelan? I offered a different viewpoint that's all I look at it from a different angle because that's how my brain works I'm sorry if that offends anyone Maybe you should rebuild the gas chambers and gas the minority ; Anyhow I've said my piece , judge away Until the next time 🙂 For someone who claims to live in France but claimed to have voted in the referendum, who told us a few days back that you know the mood of the country and that your brother spent 5 days trying to phone NHS 111....your words should be seen in that context. You regularly lie and post four letter words as a reply. Therefore I am not shocked or really that offended by your post. I have never expected any better of you. You and a small number of the usual suspects (same bloke ?) have consistently tried to justify what Cummings did, and it is the frustration borne out of the rest disagreeing with you, that leads you to such posts - as previous. The mask slips, so to speak. No comparison with any other deaths can diminish the pain and loss that will be felt for those close to each person. Unlike you that doesn't go away'. It will be something that is the focus of their minds for years. That you see no wrong in your words, or seem to have no empathy for those grieving is to be pitied. Not hated, but pitied. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted May 28, 2020 10 minutes ago, wcorkcanary said: Sssshhhh, he's busy on another thread   , it's been quite good fun on here this afternoon without him spaffing his copy and paste **** all over this thread. **** short for Jissom . Blimey you do get yourself rather excited - I am not that important ...................... honestly This seems to be the highlight of your day Well perhaps to you maybe - but then we both know why 😜 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,334 Posted May 28, 2020 Thanks Tillo , do you keep him in a box until you're bored? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 5,525 Posted May 28, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Van wink said: I don’t like it either, the questions were not political but questions relating to behavioural science. They are not experts in that field but should still be allowed to express a view. Of course they both stated that they didn’t want to comment on political matters so it depends on how you define a political question. They could easily have been fairly non-committal politically and both are experienced enough to answer those questions with some independence. It's a bad look though to just close your ears. Especially in a PM. It reminded me of Trump but with a certain English-ness (smiling face). Yet cold too and that's the second time recently (Hancock was shirty the other day) when follow up questions were not allowed. If this continues it is concerning because it indicates that the usual standards are gone. If there happens to be a second wave, people will be even angrier and no doubt Cummings' name will loom ever large (imo). Edited May 28, 2020 by sonyc Loom Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yorkshire_Canary 1 Posted May 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, Bill said: For someone who claims to live in France but claimed to have voted in the referendum, Proxy vote? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,334 Posted May 28, 2020 Just now, Bill said: Blimey you do get yourself rather excited - I am not that important ...................... honestly This seems to be the highlight of your day Well perhaps to you maybe - but then we both know why 😜 Cretin, jog on . Not replying to your bull shoite at all. Best you carry on with your Onanism......alone ,as the word suggests.  On the importance issue, last time I had interaction with something as important as you , if was on the sole of my shoe...and it smelt ...bad!!! Wiped it off , flushed it , as I do with you. Bye now , end of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 5,525 Posted May 28, 2020 Reading that the Frexit movement might have gained ground over the last few months with a lot of the country unhappy with government handling of the virus, like here. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted May 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, sonyc said: Reading that the Frexit movement might have gained ground over the last few months with a lot of the country unhappy with government handling of the virus, like here. Burning ppe isn’t a good look Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted May 28, 2020 I see the usual incompetence has been shown yet again - with test and trace being the latest shambles Bets on for the testing to be 200,000 a day by June 1st as Johnson stated ? And there was Bill saying that Cummings misdeeds would be just the beginning - against the usual cap doffing toadies who followed 'masters' words and said it was of no consequence "The number of Conservative MPs to have called for Dominic Cummings to resign or to have criticised his behaviour in recent days has swelled to almost 100 - 45 Tory MPs have said Cummings should resign or be sacked" Still growing - as Johnson's popularity in the polls drops by the day ps the clapping last week was more like hearing a cow sh it than any vigorous effort Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted May 28, 2020 21 minutes ago, Herman said: Don't wake him up for goodness sakes.😲 Tilly has been rubbing his lamp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monty13 2,235 Posted May 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Crafty Canary said: I’d place Dominic Cummings about midway between Stalin and Adolf Hitler. Politically or morally? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FenwayFrank 2,459 Posted May 28, 2020 Just now, Monty13 said: Politically or morally? It’s definitely not alphabetically 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites