Il Pirata 249 Posted January 15, 2020 1 hour ago, HertsCanary93 said: He's got 4 years on his contract, we're in the premier league and in a January transfer window. Spurs are unlikely to spend 30m+ on a player when they probably back themselves to sign him for ~20m in the summer. This is the same club that failed to sign Jack Grealish 2 summers ago for a 15m asking price as they refused to go higher than 12m. I will be incredibly surprised if anyone important leaves this window. Completely agree. I can't see any first team player leaving in January. This is one of the main reasons players were put onto long term contracts - It protects the club against losing players on form during the January window, unless the bid is huge. I can quite imagine provisional agreements were put in place with the likes of Godfrey and Aarons that bids will be considered in summer. Our policy of long term contracts is first and foremost to protect the club, and to ensure at the very least market value transfer fees. The duration of the contract is completely irrelevant in terms of how long the player will stay at the club. I fully expect Aarons and Godfrey to be sold in the summer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,821 Posted January 15, 2020 14 hours ago, Indy said: Trouble is any profit from sales will be subject to a big tax bill, so given we’ll be making a hefty profit this season with the TV money, any sales should go back into the club on players in, ground / training ground improvements. No point in just taking 30 million as it’ll be taxed! This, and also FFP rules, is a reason why we've seen an increase in loans with obligation to buy as it defers payment. If we loaned Aarons to Spurs with the obligation to buy in six (or even 18) months then the fee we'd receive would be further down the line and give us more wiggle room with regards to FFP, which could come in handy if we want to spend a bit of money in a couple of years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Moss 2,165 Posted January 15, 2020 Max signed a 5 year deal 6 months ago. He’s still only just turned 20 I think so I’d like to think, as unreasonable as it may sound to some, that we could keep him and our other young players for another season as they develop regardless of which division we’re in. At that age it’s hardly holding their careers back is it? I’d like to see a little bit of loyalty - there are very few clubs that will give so many youngsters such regular first team football before they’re only 21 years old. And I disagree that his price goes down in the summer if we’re relegated - if that’s the case, I’d keep him for another season. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,208 Posted January 15, 2020 43 minutes ago, Alex Moss said: Max signed a 5 year deal 6 months ago. He’s still only just turned 20 I think so I’d like to think, as unreasonable as it may sound to some, that we could keep him and our other young players for another season as they develop regardless of which division we’re in. At that age it’s hardly holding their careers back is it? I’d like to see a little bit of loyalty - there are very few clubs that will give so many youngsters such regular first team football before they’re only 21 years old. And I disagree that his price goes down in the summer if we’re relegated - if that’s the case, I’d keep him for another season. Here’s a reason - Not sure what Aaron’s is on a week guessing it definitely won’t be more than £50 k a week. Abraham’s and Hudson Adoy are similar sort of ages but Abraham’s won’t sign another Chelsea contract until they offer him the same as Hudson - £188,000 per week. Whatever the rights and wrongs unfortunately clubs of our size cannot compete on salaries and a footballers career is short. Just like us players have their whole life to consider and I can’t see loyalty or playing all the time as part of any consideration, those days have long gone. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted January 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Il Pirata said: Completely agree. I can't see any first team player leaving in January. This is one of the main reasons players were put onto long term contracts - It protects the club against losing players on form during the January window, unless the bid is huge. I can quite imagine provisional agreements were put in place with the likes of Godfrey and Aarons that bids will be considered in summer. Our policy of long term contracts is first and foremost to protect the club, and to ensure at the very least market value transfer fees. The duration of the contract is completely irrelevant in terms of how long the player will stay at the club. I fully expect Aarons and Godfrey to be sold in the summer. Same here, nobody to go in January but one or two in the summer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkngood 1,087 Posted January 15, 2020 55 minutes ago, Alex Moss said: Max signed a 5 year deal 6 months ago. He’s still only just turned 20 I think so I’d like to think, as unreasonable as it may sound to some, that we could keep him and our other young players for another season as they develop regardless of which division we’re in. At that age it’s hardly holding their careers back is it? I’d like to see a little bit of loyalty - there are very few clubs that will give so many youngsters such regular first team football before they’re only 21 years old. And I disagree that his price goes down in the summer if we’re relegated - if that’s the case, I’d keep him for another season. Alex i would love to keep all the youngsters BUT if we go down and Liverpool , Spurs ,Man utd etc plus big clubs aboard are interested and bidding would he be happy playing in the championship i doubt it , Also if given the chance to earn x5 ,x6 ,x7 times what he is on now for the next 5 years also he is 20 but will he play until he is 32 or will he get a Ashton type injury and be finished young ? ( I DO HOPE NOT ) chances to earn that type of money rarely come along and that is what if it was me would be thinking footballers careers can be finished in a flash , 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flying Dutchman 744 Posted January 15, 2020 Was 4/1 to sign with Spurs this window with Sky bet when I saw the other day. Today that has gone down to 1/3... This would indicate that a lot of money has gone on this over the last few days. Read into that what you will - could be a lot of money wasted! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cornish sam 953 Posted January 15, 2020 30 minutes ago, Flying Dutchman said: Was 4/1 to sign with Spurs this window with Sky bet when I saw the other day. Today that has gone down to 1/3... This would indicate that a lot of money has gone on this over the last few days. Read into that what you will - could be a lot of money wasted! Does this coincide with all of the coverage sky were giving Aarons of late, which in no way could possibly have influenced people's betting, especially as they only have a few (dozen) adverts for sky bet embedded in every story... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkngood 1,087 Posted January 15, 2020 7 hours ago, Flying Dutchman said: Was 4/1 to sign with Spurs this window with Sky bet when I saw the other day. Today that has gone down to 1/3... This would indicate that a lot of money has gone on this over the last few days. Read into that what you will - could be a lot of money wasted! Spotted at the Tottenham Asda ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 3,300 Posted January 15, 2020 7 hours ago, Flying Dutchman said: Was 4/1 to sign with Spurs this window with Sky bet when I saw the other day. Today that has gone down to 1/3... This would indicate that a lot of money has gone on this over the last few days. Read into that what you will - could be a lot of money wasted! Maybe Delia’s had a cheeky couple million at 4/1 knowing she’s going to sell to Spurs?😉👍 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 5,141 Posted January 15, 2020 12 minutes ago, Indy said: Maybe Delia’s had a cheeky couple million at 4/1 knowing she’s going to sell to Spurs?😉👍 Cunning, if highly illegal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 3,300 Posted January 15, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Nuff Said said: Cunning, if highly illegal. Argh but if it’s done through a third party in the Far East, then put through with the washing would that be OK? 😂 Then we could invite that third party to become our stinking rich foreign investor! Win win.......👍😉 Edited January 15, 2020 by Indy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 3,985 Posted January 15, 2020 Looks like a sale with loan back to me. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirku 1,332 Posted January 15, 2020 Are they loaning him back to us? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 5,141 Posted January 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, kirku said: Are they loaning him back to us? That’s a great idea, I’m surprised it hasn’t been raised earlier. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,767 Posted January 15, 2020 55 minutes ago, Midlands Yellow said: Looks like a sale with loan back to me. Why would they loan him back to you? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pete Campbell 0 Posted January 16, 2020 Loan back for the rest of the season could suit all parties Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,674 Posted January 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Pete Campbell said: Loan back for the rest of the season could suit all parties Yeah, i'm just relieved that we're allowed to have him loaned back to us. Thankfully i've not heard from anyone anywhere that it's not allowed, so.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaberry2 550 Posted January 16, 2020 Word on the street is Tottenham are after Cancelo from Man City who can play RB. Im assuming they've been priced out of a move for Aarons this window, if there were any truth in the rumours. I don't expect him to move until the summer at the earliest. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirku 1,332 Posted January 16, 2020 1 hour ago, jaberry2 said: Word on the street is Tottenham are after Cancelo from Man City who can play RB. Im assuming they've been priced out of a move for Aarons this window, if there were any truth in the rumours. I don't expect him to move until the summer at the earliest. Yeah, but are they loaning him back? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,334 Posted January 16, 2020 2 hours ago, kirku said: Yeah, but are they loaning him back? No need, I heard they are gonna give us 10 mill and let us keep him, forever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirku 1,332 Posted January 16, 2020 4 hours ago, wcorkcanary said: No need, I heard they are gonna give us 10 mill and let us keep him, forever. So they're loaning us 10m? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,821 Posted January 16, 2020 47 minutes ago, kirku said: So they're loaning us 10m? They're not allowed if they earnt it in this transfer window. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,767 Posted January 17, 2020 Can they loan us Cancelo? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clint 221 Posted January 17, 2020 (edited) If we fail to win tomorrow, let’s face it, we’re down. So we may as well cash in on him at a hugely inflated fee as we will at some point anyway. Byram at RB and Lewis LB for the rest of the season. I fully expect us to win though, leading to a miraculous revival, another season in the Prem and all our key players staying to enjoy the ride! Edited January 17, 2020 by Clint 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,531 Posted January 17, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Clint said: If we fail to win tomorrow, let’s face it, we’re down. So we may as well cash in on him at a hugely inflated fee as we will at some point anyway. Byram at RB and Lewis LB for the rest of the season. I fully expect us to win though, leading to a miraculous revival, another season in the Prem and all our key players staying to enjoy the ride! Won't accept the first sentence (surprise surprise!). We still have it within us to beat teams and there are still games enough to pull it off - even with a loss tomorrow. We can beat anyone.....we just haven't done enough of it....yet! Edited January 17, 2020 by lake district canary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 3,985 Posted January 17, 2020 30 minutes ago, lake district canary said: Won't accept the first sentence (surprise surprise!). We still have it within us to beat teams and there are still games enough to pull it off - even with a loss tomorrow. We can beat anyone.....we just haven't done enough of it....yet! If we lose tomorrow Lakey can we have a rallying call please within twenty minutes on a new thread ? Personally I like them as it softens the blow slightly and a few hours entertainment are guaranteed with the replies. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fuzzar 1,702 Posted January 17, 2020 37 minutes ago, lake district canary said: Won't accept the first sentence (surprise surprise!). We still have it within us to beat teams and there are still games enough to pull it off - even with a loss tomorrow. We can beat anyone.....we just haven't done enough of it....yet! I hear you Lakey. But we absolutely have to win v Bournemouth. Enough of this jam tomorrow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,531 Posted January 17, 2020 26 minutes ago, Midlands Yellow said: If we lose tomorrow Lakey can we have a rallying call please within twenty minutes on a new thread ? Personally I like them as it softens the blow slightly and a few hours entertainment are guaranteed with the replies. No. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,334 Posted January 17, 2020 36 minutes ago, lake district canary said: No. Is that a refusal to be positive in the face of reality, or are you saying you'll leave it 25 rather than 20 mins before telling us all that it ain't over yet. Just a thought, were you once in a monty python film? You know the one, king Arthur , where the guy claims that having his arms chopped off is just a scratch. The Black knight, more positive than Lakeyo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites