The Positive Brexit Thread

[PurpleCanary 5,562]

36 minutes ago, A Load of Squit said:

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That's fine but, ahem, as I said this morning what she and all the other idiots who got the UK into this totally predictable - and predicted - mess need to do is band together and campaign to force the government to ask the EU for a complete renegotiation. One that in effect reverses Brexit. Humiliating for Johnson? Yes, certainly.

[paul moy 235]

2 minutes ago, PurpleCanary said:

That's fine but, ahem, as I said this morning what she and all the other idiots who got the UK into this totally predictable - and predicted - mess need to do is band together and campaign to force the government to ask the EU for a complete renegotiation. One that in effect reverses Brexit. Humiliating for Johnson? Yes, certainly.

Oh the irony.  The EU and Ted Heath got us into this mess over the past forty years as it metamorphosized from an acceptable common market to an unacceptable undemocratic dictatorship, by  outright deceit and lies . We really should never have joined, but anyway the mess is of the EU's making and is more of a mess for them as they export so much to us  that we really can do without.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1387959/Brexit-news-EU-business-UK-shipping-latest-Manchester-United-WAG-caught-up

[How I Wrote Elastic Man 1,189]

1 minute ago, paul moy said:

Oh the irony.  The EU and Ted Heath got us into this mess over the past forty years as it metamorphosized from an acceptable common market to an unacceptable undemocratic dictatorship, by  outright deceit and lies . We really should never have joined, but anyway the mess is of the EU's making and is more of a mess for them as they export so much to us  that we really can do without.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1387959/Brexit-news-EU-business-UK-shipping-latest-Manchester-United-WAG-caught-up

you posted that link a few minutes previously

why do you feel the need to post it again?

[Herman 9,779]

Moyo's brexit benefits. Sunderland stays at it is. European companies are suffering as much, if not more, than British companies. That's it. What a sad and tawdry outlook on life.

[horsefly 4,301]

2 minutes ago, How I Wrote Elastic Man said:

you posted that link a few minutes previously

why do you feel the need to post it again?

The guy is not worth responding to, he just spouts the same BS everytime: "The EU is a dictatorship", "The EU is sclerotic", etc,etc. day after day just the same repetitive, boring, opinionated bile of a proven racist, xenophobe, and misogynyst. Never provides an argument for his loathsome opinions, and simply disappears the moment someone refutes his guff with evidence. A complete low-life that represents all that is contemptible in the worst and most bigoted Brexiteers.

[Yellow Fever 3,793]

1 hour ago, A Load of Squit said:

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Sympathy for the average misled fishermen - YES.

Sympathy for Mummery. NO - No bail-outs, no help just let her go bust. 

[horsefly 4,301]

2 minutes ago, Yellow Fever said:

 

Sympathy for the average misled fishermen - YES.

Sympathy for Mummery. NO - No bail-outs, no help just let her go bust. 

Absolutely! I hope the fishing community hold the thick gobsh*ite to account for what she has done to promote Brexit.

[Well b back 3,216]

44 minutes ago, paul moy said:

More 'lies' from the express........  🤣😎🤗

EU retailers  struggling more than UK retailers due to EU red tape:

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1387959/Brexit-news-EU-business-UK-shipping-latest-Manchester-United-WAG-caught-up

So both sides are suffering as an economist I thought you would conclude that’s a disaster for both sides rather than we are in a mess but at least it’s not as bad as your mess. 

[Bill 1,788]

1 hour ago, A Load of Squit said:

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The first clip goes to the heart of why the UK is now in such a mess. It is not that no one listened to her, they did.

The problem was that no one challenged her, and others of a similar dishonest nature. Too many dismissed those kind of rants as being so far from the truth that they were not worth challenging.

As with Farage there was no challenge, and he was allowed to get away with lie after lie and only questioned AFTER the referendum ...where he admitted that the £350m was a blatant lie.

Nevermind the pantomime that is BBC’s QT let's have her and her kind put under scrutiny with the facts checked live.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Well b back 3,216]

39 minutes ago, paul moy said:

Oh the irony.  The EU and Ted Heath got us into this mess over the past forty years as it metamorphosized from an acceptable common market to an unacceptable undemocratic dictatorship, by  outright deceit and lies . We really should never have joined, but anyway the mess is of the EU's making and is more of a mess for them as they export so much to us  that we really can do without.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1387959/Brexit-news-EU-business-UK-shipping-latest-Manchester-United-WAG-caught-up

What did he say ? Did he say joining the EU would mean we had an additional £350 million pound a week to spend on the NHS or did he say all our fisherman would be left in the do do. Or maybe he said if we joined the EU  there would be a border between the rest of the U.K. and Northern Ireland, just be interested to see what lies he told as I really don’t know.

[horsefly 4,301]

3 minutes ago, Well b back said:

So both sides are suffering as an economist I thought you would conclude that’s a disaster for both sides rather than we are in a mess but at least it’s not as bad as your mess. 

Haha! the idea that an intellectually retarded fool like him is an economist is one of his most obvious and pathetic lies. What sort of economist wants the country's main export market to fail? It beggars belief that he is stupid enough to claim that it would be a good thing if the people we need to export to don't have enough money to buy the goods we want to export to them. Chronically thick!

[Well b back 3,216]

1 hour ago, A Load of Squit said:

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I am sure we will hear about a bribe given to them soon from Johnson to keep quiet. Maybe Farage can bail them out with all the money he conned from people for membership fees.

They were happy for others to lose their jobs, it’s just backfired.

[Bill 1,788]

20 minutes ago, Yellow Fever said:

 

Sympathy for the average misled fishermen - YES.

Sympathy for Mummery. NO - No bail-outs, no help just let her go bust. 

Absolutely NOT !

The people who misled them were themselves, and themselves alone.

If those with no connection to the industry could easily see what would happen, then why did they choose not to ?'

It is time for the info that was out there to be put in front of these  Brexiteers who are whining, and asked - why did you ignore it

Greed ?

[Herman 9,779]

10 minutes ago, horsefly said:

Haha! the idea that an intellectually retarded fool like him is an economist is one of his most obvious and pathetic lies. What sort of economist wants the country's main export market to fail? It beggars belief that he is stupid enough to claim that it would be a good thing if the people we need to export to don't have enough money to buy the goods we want to export to them. Chronically thick!

Don't tell him but those European companies still have the benefit of free, unhindered trade with nearly half a billion people.

[horsefly 4,301]

3 minutes ago, Herman said:

Don't tell him but those European companies still have the benefit of free, unhindered trade with nearly half a billion people.

But don't forget Herman, we have nearly 70 million all desperate to eat Mackerel on a daily basis.

Edited January 23, 2021 by horsefly

[Bill 1,788]

2 minutes ago, horsefly said:

But don't forget Herman, we have nearly 70 million all desperate to eat Mackerel on a daily basis. 

A clown sold them the idea that it would all be OK

So maybe another clown could sell them the idea that we could eat the fish

A Big Mac (kerel) perhaps ?

Jonson’s burger bar - A Big Mackerel and lies, or a Whopper

 

[paul moy 235]

1 hour ago, Herman said:

Moyo's brexit benefits. Sunderland stays at it is. European companies are suffering as much, if not more, than British companies. That's it. What a sad and tawdry outlook on life.

Imports reduce and EU suffers so ok by me.   They can stop this red tape but for their spite and we would go along with it,  so the ball is in their court.

 

[paul moy 235]

20 minutes ago, horsefly said:

But don't forget Herman, we have nearly 70 million all desperate to eat Mackerel on a daily basis.

I love mackeral, especially smoked in pepper or chilli, with my salad..... but I don't often buy it as it's too expensive.  The price will no doubt come down as we build up after Brexit and control our own destiny on fishing.

Edited January 23, 2021 by paul moy

[paul moy 235]

7 minutes ago, Bill said:

A clown sold them the idea that it would all be OK

So maybe another clown could sell them the idea that we could eat the fish

A Big Mac (kerel) perhaps ?

Jonson’s burger bar - A Big Mackerel and lies, or a Whopper

 

Joker.......  we are going to thrive, and the EU-beating vaccination program is just the start.

[Herman 9,779]

No they can't stop the red tape as it is part and parcel of being a third country. The whole point of membership was that it gave us unhindered access to the single market. You decided to become a third country and these are the results.

[paul moy 235]

26 minutes ago, Herman said:

Don't tell him but those European companies still have the benefit of free, unhindered trade with nearly half a billion people.

You obviously did not read my earlier post......... the EU are hurting !!   

[paul moy 235]

2 minutes ago, Herman said:

No they can't stop the red tape as it is part and parcel of being a third country. The whole point of membership was that it gave us unhindered access to the single market. You decided to become a third country and these are the results.

Nope..... all they need is an agreement and they CAN stop it.  The ball as I said is in their court, but of course they are dead set on trying to hurt us.

Edited January 23, 2021 by paul moy

[Well b back 3,216]

Just now, paul moy said:

You obviously did not read my earlier post......... the EU are hurting !!   

So are we

[paul moy 235]

3 minutes ago, Well b back said:

So are we

Yes, but worth SHORT-TERM pain for LONG-TERM gain.......   as we Brexiteers have acknowledged all along. For the EU though it is LONG-TERM pain as we are their biggest net customer.

Edited January 23, 2021 by paul moy

[Herman 9,779]

3 minutes ago, paul moy said:

Nope..... all they need is an agreement and they CAN stop it.  The ball as I said is in their court, but of course they are dead set on trying to hurt us.

They can't FFS. We are now a third country. We are outside the single market and custom union. This is reality. This parrot is dead.

[SwindonCanary 455]

13 hours ago, Bill said:

perhaps you could tell us why I am able to easily find this, and you could not

anyway here’s a clue, so why not use that as a starting point and have a read through reliable sources - not those that have no other purpose than to scam money from idiots by feeding their adductive habit

"The Envision plant, whose annual battery output is about 1.9 Gigawatt hours [GWh], is considered to be relatively small compared with other automotive battery factories. Industry insiders do not generally describe it as a “gigafactory” on the scale of those being built in Europe by the likes of the US electric car pioneer Tesla or Northvolt, a Swedish startup, as they race to meet EU targets to build up a European battery industry."

 

briefly it relates to the amount of non EU parts that are allowed in construction

at the moment Nissan has a small battery manufacturing plant which gives it a head start

these batteries are for electric cars

as the above state bigger players are already in the EU and so will blow away the Nissan battery plant very soon

 

what Brexit has done is cut off the UK from it's nearest and biggest market, as well as the global market by looking backwards and becoming isolationist in outlook

with the barriers and costs now in place I would suspect that the cost of importing the batteries needed on the assembly of electric cars in the UK will make that assembly not cost effective

now if you want to show some appreciation for my taking the trouble to précis this down as basic as possible, then read up on this and inform yourself, for once

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-21/catl-lg-energy-solution-expand-battery-operations-worldwide

and you will see there is nothing there about the UK, as it is already being regarded as a backwater

 

 

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The UK still keep all the jobs and continue to produce, they can call us a backwater  if they are going to treat us like that.

[Bill 1,788]

5 minutes ago, paul moy said:

Yes, but worth SHORT-TERM pain for LONG-TERM gain.......   as we Brexiteers have acknowledged all along. For the EU though it is LONG-TERM pain as we are their biggest net customer.

ah, I see

the EU is hurting......because ..............it is trying to hurt the UK 🥴

'with that sort of 'logic'

you could almost pass as a Brexiteer, not some sad troll

[Well b back 3,216]

6 minutes ago, paul moy said:

Yes, but worth SHORT-TERM pain for LONG-TERM gain.......   as we Brexiteers have acknowledged all along. For the EU though it is LONG-TERM pain as we are their biggest net customer.

So what is your estimate on the maximum number of jobs that can be lost lost in the U.K. before your hatred of Europeans is satisfied.

 

[Bill 1,788]

2 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

The UK still keep all the jobs and continue to produce, they can call us a backwater  if they are going to treat us like that.

oh dear

the UK is currently losing jobs at a high rate as companies begin to relocate out of the UK

the UK will be regarded as a backwater, because that is where it has put itself by putting up barriers. cost, red tape etc

 

imagine your local supermarket doing the same - you would simply take your custom elsewhere, to a shop where there are not endless restrictions, delays at the checkout and higher prices

it really is that simple

you

 

[horsefly 4,301]

16 minutes ago, Herman said:

They can't FFS. We are now a third country. We are outside the single market and custom union. This is reality. This parrot is dead.

An "economist" who doesn't understand market regulations. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!