paul moy 235 Posted January 18, 2018 This is what Man Utd are agreeing to pay Alex Sanchez, according to Talksport this morning. Around two million pounds a month, so time for a wage-cap methinks !!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny Stump 1 Posted January 18, 2018 Absolutely ridiculous. This is why the game will never, ever be the same again, and why the Premiership holds no interest for me whatsoever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy Canary 715 Posted January 18, 2018 How can there be a wage cap? This is a private company paying an employee what they think he''s worth - not coming out of taxation or anything like that.Totally obscene but it''s up to them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AJ 1,265 Posted January 18, 2018 Is he even that good? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul moy 235 Posted January 18, 2018 [quote user="Hairy Canary"]How can there be a wage cap? This is a private company paying an employee what they think he''s worth - not coming out of taxation or anything like that.Totally obscene but it''s up to them.[/quote]I think they are paying that because they are not having to pay a full transfer fee as he is within a few months of his contract ending at Arsenal. It will come back to bite them though as I''m sure this will spread dissent in the squad at pay differentials. If not a pay cap, how about a much higher tax rate for those on this ridiculous money. It is 50% on salaries above 150K, so maybe 75% if over 2 million.... ?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul moy 235 Posted January 18, 2018 [quote user="AJ"]Is he even that good?[/quote]I''m glad you asked that, because I''ve never been convinced. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,841 Posted January 18, 2018 It does put things into perspective - Alexis Sanchez is apparently worth, in a week, the full annual cost of around 100 nurses. Short career it may be, but just a couple of months of that kind of salary and you''d never need to work again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Shuck 215 Posted January 18, 2018 Obscene as it is, there are a few players in world football who you could get and think that yes, the salary goes several levels beyond ridiculous but if thats what it takes to get the player, that player in particular then thats what had to be done...But certainly not Sanchez.Go through the top players in the Premier League, how far down the list would he come in your preferences of someone you''d love at your club.Above De Bruyne, Aguero, Kane, Hazard and a few others?Nope. He''s good. But worth THAT much? Still, they went OTT with Lukaku as well in terms of the fee and wages, seems that the allure of playing for Man Utd these days is how much they''re willing to pay rather than the fact that Man Utd want you to play for them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 456 Posted January 18, 2018 With that sort of money, isn''t it about time the player (who he works for) paid all the agents fees in a transfer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barry Brockes 150 Posted January 18, 2018 And Mourinho has the nerve to complain about the amount of money Man. City have spent assembling their squad! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy Canary 715 Posted January 18, 2018 Hopefully our nurses are on more than £4,500 a year Branston. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJP 79 Posted January 18, 2018 Hang on, are we saying there is talk of Sanchez leaving Arsenal?They''ve kept that quiet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,841 Posted January 18, 2018 Oops - an extra ''0'' got in there, and me an accountant and all! The point still stands, his annual salary could pay 500 nurses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted January 18, 2018 Maybe the FA should implement a squad-wide wage cap. Would work on several levels. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whoareyou? 0 Posted January 18, 2018 I wonder how many of the other Man Utd players have been on to their agents this morning about a pay rise? Not good for the group of players already there i would say especially as Sanchez already has that reputation of it all being about him and him alone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul moy 235 Posted January 18, 2018 [quote user="Old Shuck"]Obscene as it is, there are a few players in world football who you could get and think that yes, the salary goes several levels beyond ridiculous but if thats what it takes to get the player, that player in particular then thats what had to be done...But certainly not Sanchez.Go through the top players in the Premier League, how far down the list would he come in your preferences of someone you''d love at your club.Above De Bruyne, Aguero, Kane, Hazard and a few others?Nope. He''s good. But worth THAT much? Still, they went OTT with Lukaku as well in terms of the fee and wages, seems that the allure of playing for Man Utd these days is how much they''re willing to pay rather than the fact that Man Utd want you to play for them. [/quote]I think there is also an element of Mourinho trying to get one over on Guardiola who was hoping to get Sanchez for a knock-down 20 million. It''s probably worth it to him !! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tetteys Jig 831 Posted January 18, 2018 I’m sure Man U will still make plenty of profit. In fact they will probably make more now Sanchez is there. Football is massive and the money that comes into Man U has to go somewhere. If sanchez didn’t get it, some fat cat shareholder would.I’m sure the number 1 medical specialist and probably the top 100 will be n a fair whack as well. It’s a sad state of affairs but it’s simple economics as to why the nurses and teachers etc don’t get paid more. If they all decided to walk out, some other mug would come in and replace them. If not, then perhaps they might get a pay rise or the nhs might just collapse if it became unaffordable to keep the staff happy. The government is too busy wasting our money on shitty contracts with their mates to be spending money on the commoners services. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Molly Windley 76 Posted January 18, 2018 I`m sure I have seen figures online quoting that the exchequer receives £2.4 billion from the EPL in tax and vatIf Sanchez is paid £500k per week then he "should" be paying around £250k per week in taxHere`s the question.... If Sanchez was paid half that amount and the tax take was half that, then who would gain? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted January 18, 2018 How can there be a wage cap? This is a private company paying an employee what they think he''s worth - not coming out of taxation or anything like that. It is done in other sports. If the governing body of that sport deems it then those involved have to accept it or are fined and/or docked points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grando 308 Posted January 18, 2018 If you look at the £450k purported weekly wage at being equivalent to around 15 Naismiths, then the Sanchez figure seems much the better value! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 2,108 Posted January 18, 2018 Clubs will look at the total cost of a transfer; wages, transfer fees, bonuses, signing on fees etc. as one whole thing. Man U will probably value Sanchez as someone who is as good as a player who will cost £60m/£70m/£80m in the summer, so might as well get him for less than that now - even if it means paying him a huge amount of money.It will ultimately mean he is probably a bit of a burden for them in a couple of seasons time, but there is always China to take these kind of players now.His quality is unquestionable, 60 goals in about 120 games for Arsenal in the Prem, 80 in 160 in all competitions, many of those games he has played on the right wing. Man U earn a huge amount from their commercial deals, considerably more than any other Premier League team and can easily afford the wage demands of Alexis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daly 525 Posted January 18, 2018 Money is killing the game, its being thrown around like Monopoly money. The bubble will burst and the sooner the better Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Essjayess 307 Posted January 18, 2018 [quote user="daly"]Money is killing the game, its being thrown around like Monopoly money. The bubble will burst and the sooner the better[/quote]Maybe in the longer term daly, but in the short term its debatable if the bubble will burst, but even so, all the more reason to see our club dealing sensibly with the realism of its financial situation. As to killing the game, im not sure, but given the chance to compete against a fat cat club like night against Chelsea, we absolutely competed with them, equalled with them over 2 Cup games, despite the massive gulf in finance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JF 694 Posted January 18, 2018 What has nurses salaries got to do with football? It’s one of those ridiculous comments that get thrown around that’s has absolutely no relevance. Yes it’s silly money but he’s hardly going to turn it down, is he? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 456 Posted January 18, 2018 For the record I''d like to say I think Norwich are going the right way, players not looking for the money, but players that want to play at this level Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BarclayWazza 91 Posted January 19, 2018 I know it''s not exactly comparable but it''s not far off what he top players in American sports receive. Steph Curry earns $34.5m a year in salary alone in the NBA, LeBron is just behind that and there are another 13 players earning north of $25m a year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Wal 314 Posted January 19, 2018 The solution was mentioned earlier in the thread.Introduce another tax threshold for those ''earning'' above (say) £2M per annum to 75%.That has a double effect.Either with those wages the country would have more income or the players would not think it worth their while if they had to pay so much tax and would leave the Premiership so that more English players could play in the English Premiership.That would help the national team no end! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 2,108 Posted January 19, 2018 Or the players would be paid for ''image rights'' into accounts in the Cayman Islands and pay zero tax. You already see that a lot of players now set themselves up as companies and have part of their salary paid to the ''company'' and pay corporation tax, which is considerably lower than income tax.A tax regime isn''t going to change how much players get paid, they tried that in France and players just found more creative ways of getting their money without tax. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 8,086 Posted January 19, 2018 You don''t need individual salary caps, we need them for teams. So then Man U get to decide if Sanchez is worth that chunk of their wage budget or if they need to split it between 3 players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromage Frais 14 Posted January 19, 2018 [quote user="Hairy Canary"]How can there be a wage cap? This is a private company paying an employee what they think he''s worth - not coming out of taxation or anything like that.Totally obscene but it''s up to them.[/quote]You could have a team wage cap or variation of.That way you could pay a lot of one person or spread it around more. a la NFLhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salary_capNFL 2016 $167 million cap per team £120 million £Manchester city £244 million http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/11/08/manchester-city-wage-bill-rises-25-244m-pep-guardiolas-first/Manchester United £263 millionhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/11/16/man-utd-enjoy-huge-increase-revenues-despite-wage-bill-soaring/Its all fun for a while then it becomes a bit boring Leicester winning the premier league was fantastic i can hardly remember the other winners recently as its a boring limited selection.At one small stage the "smaller'' teams had a boost after the television deal which meant they too could have a team of internationals and it felt like progress culminating with Leicester.This latest bout of wages though is utterly silly and undoing that progress. It will be interesting if a revolution in the gulf or sudden loss of interest from a sugar daddy in the premier league will bring the bubble down.For teams like Norwich the game is about buying players for 500k and selling for millions now. Ipswich where so lucky their golden days happened when they did, today those players + manager would be out the door after a season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites