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The Saudi threat to football
Fromage Frais replied to dylanisabaddog's topic in Main Discussion - Norwich City
Yep and add no tax and no crime to that list also. Once you get as rich as those lads and as well known you can pretty much guarantee your name and those of your loved ones in on some crime gangs to do list. -
Obviously Adebayo Akinfenwa He literally had a clothing brand called Beast mode. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adebayo_Akinfenwa
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49210538 Jon Parkin: Forward known as 'The Beast' retires aged 37 after 14-club career
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Yep if he was getting divorced the standard reduction is supposedly in the 30% region for a minority share. 10% = 17.5 million add 30% 22.75 x 10 and voila 227 million odd.
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Banned for your beliefs
Fromage Frais replied to Fen Canary's topic in Main Discussion - Norwich City
Agreed. This campaign in France is more like Kick it Out as at the end of the day you can still not approve of homosexuality and agree that you do not have to abuse anyone. But again if the player does not agree the club should have given him a plain shirt/stood him down as either way crossing it over it with tape is not a good look and counter productive..... It will be interesting to see if the player agreed to wear the shirt and then did this off his own accord..... which would then be almost a reverse virtue signal the other way. -
Banned for your beliefs
Fromage Frais replied to Fen Canary's topic in Main Discussion - Norwich City
Yes and people in such countries actually believe in their religion literally taking it very seriously. Whilst it is easy for some posters have to dismiss this as "goatherder's" it is their sincerely held belief. No doubt he will be seen as a hero for standing up. They take a 24 year old lad from Mail pay him to play football and then expect him to be a vanguard for a campaign he clearly does not believe in. How about another angle There are loads of players in the French league whom are Muslim/religious etc and so far not many did this. If that is progress/tolerance that is really good going. If it's is fear/acquiescence not so much. -
Banned for your beliefs
Fromage Frais replied to Fen Canary's topic in Main Discussion - Norwich City
This is a very interesting thread. There are some precedents. Idrissa Gueye > missing a match due to rainbow design on kit (mentioned as a possible action on here) Anel Ahmedhodzic > did not wish to wear a rainbow captains armband To play devils advocate here it is easy for people in the UK in most communities to consider such symbols as non political and settled arguments. You are safe to defend them and have a go at those whom may not agree with you. In other countries it is not the case and sadly homosexuality is a criminal custodial offence, in some it is potentially a capital punishment offence. So what to us is a risk/cost free chance to signal our virtue/solidarity, to them may well cause harm, loss or maybe even danger/prosecution in their home countries for them or their families. -
Hmm So basically the team he managed is a funnel to get players from Africa, add value to the raw talent and sell for profit? A very different model to us so this will be quite a change. I do not think we can create that here (visa rules etc)... I think a lot of clubs have deals (used to be Belgium) so they can profit from this type of operation. I hope he is able to develop our young players with the same success.
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The money coming in will be lower and thus any player who gets a decent offer will go. The only reason they wont is if the money is not that good or they think the club will get more for them the following season. Any of them could go but lets be honest talented but we have been poor at times these season so really maybe Sara will go for good money, Sargent is worth more to a rich champs team than a prem team atm and as for Rowe I think he may stay unless someone pays the money desired but 15/20 million + ? hmmm. Sainz I think v good but under the radar for a bit more time I think to be worth big bucks. The new manager (Hoff) to me looks like a money ball sort of hire. We will get cheaper young players train them and sell them and hopefully do this whilst playing attractive football (which aids in the valuation). I do not see it as a lets win the league type hire, I see it as a buy low sell high get promoted on the way if possible hire. It is logical for the new owners now the parachute payments are sailing.
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Are we an attractive proposition?
Fromage Frais replied to The Great Mass Debater's topic in Main Discussion - Norwich City
This. As is often the case in normal businesses the best results are when you hire someone on the way up. Norwich is a very large club just not premier league massive. So nearly all assistant managers/coaches and those in smaller leagues would be interested. Like all Managers it is then down to do you like the new bosses, autonomy, funds and time to get things done. -
Is Attanasio joint ownership official yet?
Fromage Frais replied to Indy's topic in Main Discussion - Norwich City
Maybe there is a performance element to it dragging on. Improbably getting promoted results in a world of difference in value. I am like you no way would I invest in something without the ability to change things. I am surprised they can do a deal with the current owners as doing well enough to stay/not doing bad enough to leave is not the recipe for a bargain per se. Why would you spend ages on Norwich when other teams go kaput and you can have total control, a bargain and delighted fans having been saved. -
Bit harsh Both got to the prem from the champs. Wagner managed to keep his team in there there which Farke never achieved as much as I love the guy. https://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/taking-a-closer-look-at-previous-german-managers-in-the-premier-league-1662553829000 Farke - 49 matches, won 6, drew 8, lost 35; win percentage 12.2 Wagner - 60 matches, won 11, drew 15, lost 34; win percentage 18 Both got sacked Wagner then got the Schalke job which is a massive one which did not work out. I would hazard a guess that non city fans would have the view they are very similar careers with quite similar career paths despite having a different style Wagner being more pressing (if I remember correctly and back in the day that HT team looked really good). Farke would obviously be considered king of the Championship but then many clubs would have sacked their manager during the first prem campaign. Yes he got sacked by young boys as they demanded to be champions (they came second) he also won a game against Manchester United which was in the champions league group stage... a level which Farke has yet to manage in? So if the guy is motivated and sees us as the ideal place to prove to everyone he is the real deal I consider this a good appointment. https://terrierspirit.com/david-wagners-tactics/
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Everton make Pukki enquiry
Fromage Frais replied to Michael Starr's topic in Main Discussion - Norwich City
Heart = stay Head = if near 10 million he does not suit the new system as much and is off on a free soon. He is an experienced player and may well not want to be on the bench as Sargent surges in form. If I was reaching the end of my contract and had a chance to play in the premier league again with a new contract and a bump in salary of say over 20 percent + and bonuses etc….. would be tempting at his age. -
finance Derby - deal to end administration is collapsing
Fromage Frais replied to Badger's topic in Main Discussion - Norwich City
https://www.clowesfund.org Looks like more American investors. As the £ plummets and the FED rises faster than the BOE its going to be supermarket sweep. -
Interesting with the falling pound there is going to be a large number of US investors snapping up football teams/companies/anything. But seems like only two ways to make money. 1) Get in the prep and sell after picking up a bargain club in the champs. Risky as need to be there for a few seasons in a row. 2) Get promoted and the owners can vote to remove relegation/reduce size. A scenario so lucrative for the big six that getting mates to buy the smaller teams and vote against their own interests could be a possibility for up front cash/compo. So unless there is some form of sports business intra company tax deduction type thingy I don't see the allure outside of options 1 or 2. Anyhow fingers crossed it all works out and its for the best.