News of the World; Crofty in demand!

[Rupethebear 0]

Sunderland, Reading, Stoke and West Brom are just four of the clubs to show an interest in Norwich midfielder Lee Croft.

Hope they weren''t watching yesterday!

[Rudolph Hucker 0]

Good!............Sell, sell,sell!

[Hardhouse44 289]

I have to agree. Whilst I admire his effort you get almost zero end product from the guy. He is also far to slow. Totally ineffectual yesterday because his full back could easily match him for pace.

If we are to spend relatively big in the summer then £1m say form the sale of crofty would be very handy.

As I say effort 110% end Product 10% and his finishing is woeful too.

[ca 1]

Also says in the News Of The World that we might struggle to hold on to Roeder next season.

[sam 0]

Get rid of him, he is useless, get chadwick fit and he won''t be needed, he has no end product, never seen him actually cross a ball to a norwich player in 2 years.

[Barry Brockes 157]

Totally agree with the above. Even with two quality strikers next season (hopefully) you have to get far more goals from supporting players like Crofty. If he can''t score goals now he never will and we need ten/twelve a season from someone playing in his position. Three goals in 65 games or whatever his record is just ain''t up to the mark for a team aiming for the top. 

[macdougalls perm 0]

[quote user="sam"]Get rid of him, he is useless, get chadwick fit and he won''t be needed, he has no end product, never seen him actually cross a ball to a norwich player in 2 years.[/quote]

I know you haven''t seen it, but the question is have you heard it? Or heard Adams talk about it more accurately? [;)] 

[GJP 79]

Well if there was any truth in this at all and teams higher up the ladder than us were interested in him then that would surely suggest the guy is doing something right.

Whether it''s true or not I still like the guy as a footballer and I think he''s plenty good enough for Norwich.

Some people question is end product but do people actually have a look at the oppositions penalty box when Crofty has the ball out wide?  More often than not we''ve got nobody in there. Me thinks if we had a bit more of a presence in the box then all of a sudden Crofty would look a much more productive player.

Who do people think we''re going to get to play wide right? David Beckham? Cristiano Ronaldo?

 

[Buncey 1]

Anything less than £1.5million for him would be daylight robbery.

[Huddy 0]

Yet more reason not to belive what you read in the News of the World Surely.

Croftys had a decent little spell after christmas, but before that and agian recently hes been back to his old self, the headless chicken that cant pick a bass, cant score goal and rarely gets anywhere when he has the ball.

I say that if there is interest, which i suppose stranger things have happned (Preston and Brown!), then if we get anything more than 750k we should snap there arms off. Chadwick is a better player, whether he ever returns isa a different matter!

[NegativeVibes 0]

[quote user="Fellas"]Anything less than £1.5million for him would be daylight robbery.
[/quote]

Exactly, may be a little overpriced but if he leaves then who do you think we''ll replace him with? Someone worse for sure, not better.

[chicken 0]

Agreed permy boy - I wonder whether I am watching / listening to the same game as people sometimes.Out of our current squad Croft is easily one of the best players. He is 22, and has set up goals and been involved in most of the attacking play in the recent good run.I don''t think he lacks that much pace - he is just not blisteringly fast. I really don''t know how people can criticise him so harshly when he is one of the players I think we would find difficult to replace.In comparison Hoolahan is not quick - don''t see too many people saying that he is rubbish!

[Mister Chops 7]

[quote user="RUDOLPH HUCKER"]Good!............Sell, sell,sell![/quote]

Yep... Croft is 100% effort, 5% delivery.

 

[Hardhouse44 289]

[quote user="chicken"]

Agreed permy boy - I wonder whether I am watching / listening to the same game as people sometimes.

Out of our current squad Croft is easily one of the best players. He is 22, and has set up goals and been involved in most of the attacking play in the recent good run.

I don''t think he lacks that much pace - he is just not blisteringly fast. I really don''t know how people can criticise him so harshly when he is one of the players I think we would find difficult to replace.

In comparison Hoolahan is not quick - don''t see too many people saying that he is rubbish!
[/quote]

I think it depends on whether you are impressed by effort or end result. Effort is never in question. I do however question your comment he sets up goals. Not often. Berbatov or Alan Smith. who would you choose. If you don''t watch him every week you maybe don''t see all the wasted, weak, scuffed, poorly placed, under hit and over hit balls he puts in. His goals scoring record is also far too low. He is what he is a hard working very average wide player. If anybody is willing to pay decent money for him then I''m sure Glenn will be packing the lads bags and making some phone calls to clubs who have wingers who score and create regularly. They are out there.

[Chesney Hawkes 0]

[quote user="Mister Chops"]

[quote user="RUDOLPH HUCKER"]Good!............Sell, sell,sell![/quote]

Yep... Croft is 100% effort, 5% delivery.

[/quote]Indeed.  Running around a lot does not make you a good player.  To the Croft apologists - when did Croft last score or set up a goal?  He''s got NO end product.

[Baldyboy 1]

there was a good winger on view yesterday, HOOLAHAN.

[Buncey 1]

[quote user="James Maloney"][quote user="Mister Chops"]

[quote user="RUDOLPH HUCKER"]Good!............Sell, sell,sell![/quote]

Yep... Croft is 100% effort, 5% delivery.

[/quote]Indeed.  Running around a lot does not make you a good player.  To the Croft apologists - when did Croft last score or set up a goal?  He''s got NO end product.[/quote]lol barnslely....

[Mister Chops 7]

I wonder how many people who rubbish the Doc also laud Croft, despite the fact the two are very similar... except Croft is quicker but the Doc has better distribution.  Yes, I know what I''m saying.  Croft crosses with the quality of Tony Daley.

[Paul Spector 0]

Those that are saying we should sell Croft are muppets quite frankly. Don''t you ever watch the game??!?!?!?

[Huddy 0]

[quote user="WeWantWorthyBack"]Those that are saying we should sell Croft are muppets quite frankly. Don''t you ever watch the game??!?!?!?[/quote]

Croft isnt that good. He''s had a handful of good games, but in general runs head down, poor distributiom, a general lack of quality.

He can still do an ok job for us, noones saying we should be actively looking to sell him, but if we got 500k for him then id certainly take it.

[WeAreYellows49 0]

[quote user="WeWantWorthyBack"]Those that are saying we should sell Croft are muppets quite frankly. Don''t you ever watch the game??!?!?!?[/quote]

 

Well said.

[Barry Brockes 157]

What frightens me is the number of quality players we need in the summer to make a decent bid for the top next year (if we really want to do so). Which of the present players really have the quality needed to be in the starting eleven for the first game in August. For me it''s Marshy or Gilks, the Doc and Rusty. After that, for me, the likes of Semi, Fozzy, Shacks, Curo, Crofty and Patty are squad members but no more. On ability, Chadders might be in the starting eleven but is, and always has been, a walking sicknote and Dreary is becoming the same. Hucks has been awesome over the years but I can''t see him as an automatic choice with another year on him and I''m just making myself very depressed as I just don''t believe we will have the money available to do what needs to be done unless GR can work miracles with his contacts.  

[lucky green trainers 0]

there''s no doubt crofty has improved at of all recognition under roedy - he''s still young, and could be a good player for us if he continues to improve.  the fact he''s being linked shows that his form is being recognised.  however, we paid £750k for him, and with transfer fee inflation, we''d only break even  if we sold for £1m or less.  unless, someone was to dangle £2-3m for crofty, i''d say shove it, and give the boy another season at least to show us whats he''s made of.

[I beat Atalanta 0]

[quote user="GJP"]

Who do people think we''re going to get to play wide right? Cristiano Ronaldo?

 

[/quote]Unlikely.... he plays left side

[Mister Chops 7]

[quote user="WeWantWorthyBack"]Those that are saying we should sell Croft are muppets quite frankly. Don''t you ever watch the game??!?!?!?[/quote]

Yes, and that''s not the kind of coherent and illustrative argument that makes me want to change my mind.

[Rudolph Hucker 0]

Actually, Chops, I bet Doc is far quicker than Croft.

[chicken 0]

[quote user="Hardhouse44"]

[quote user="chicken"]Agreed permy boy - I wonder whether I am watching / listening to the same game as people sometimes.Out of our current squad Croft is easily one of the best players. He is 22, and has set up goals and been involved in most of the attacking play in the recent good run.I don''t think he lacks that much pace - he is just not blisteringly fast. I really don''t know how people can criticise him so harshly when he is one of the players I think we would find difficult to replace.In comparison Hoolahan is not quick - don''t see too many people saying that he is rubbish! [/quote]

I think it depends on whether you are impressed by effort or end result. Effort is never in question. I do however question your comment he sets up goals. Not often. Berbatov or Alan Smith. who would you choose. If you don''t watch him every week you maybe don''t see all the wasted, weak, scuffed, poorly placed, under hit and over hit balls he puts in. His goals scoring record is also far too low. He is what he is a hard working very average wide player. If anybody is willing to pay decent money for him then I''m sure Glenn will be packing the lads bags and making some phone calls to clubs who have wingers who score and create regularly. They are out there.

[/quote]What I am impressed with is that our team went 13 games unbeaten with very few changes to the team line-ups in that time. I believe Croft was a big part of that and that his movement and positional play was a major contribution to the teams attacking threat. Not only that but he has put in good crosses and made good chances for other players, does it mean he has no end product if we don''t get anything out of it?As for his shooting - agreed not a strong point for him at the moment but I am pretty sure he is one of those that was not named but mentioned to score in training, I think its like with strikers - if he gets one you will see him take more with less difficulty, its not even confidence its calmness.The most frustrating thing about Norwich in the last 5 seasons? The sudden appearence of the "finger pointers" who have to have one target at which to point their finger of blame at. I wouldn''t mint this so much were it not for the fact that people have to invent reasons to do so.

[The Walking Man 13]

[quote user="I beat Atalanta"][quote user="GJP"]

Who do people think we''re going to get to play wide right? Cristiano Ronaldo?

 

[/quote]

Unlikely.... he plays left side
[/quote]

 

[:D]

[Buncey 1]

Now I''m gonna tell you this. Hoolahan, although a very good player and a personal favourite of mine in the ccc, wouldn''t be no good for norwich. Why? Well let''s think about how crofty gets to the by-line.Well the balls at fozzy''s feet, it''s passed back to the doc, he sides it do semmy. Semmy hoofs it upfield. Croft battles with the LB. He out muscles him and runs right past him. He''s now at the by-line. Only has JC, who''s marked heavily to aim for, he tries to do a deep cross for rusty/gibbs/hux/betrand. Doesn''t quite come off....How many times does croft beat his man by using his strength and ball control, my answer a lot. I haven''t seen many wingers who are as physically strong as him (hux is probably equally as strong but more likely to go down). Considering the quality of ball he gets, and his strength I think he does well to get up to the player to beat let alone to beat him.

[we8wba 0]

[quote user="I beat Atalanta"][quote user="GJP"]

Who do people think we''re going to get to play wide right? Cristiano Ronaldo?

 

[/quote]

Unlikely.... he plays left side
[/quote]

wear does giggs play then???

he plays both so dont get all picky with the lad who posted

as to croft hope you sell him to prem side keeps people of wanting kightly for 3m then