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The Binners are playing Chippenham Town (where I now live) on July 13th and I can''t wait :-)

I think you''re spot on Lavanche!

[quote user="lappinitup"][quote user="smooth"]For me holty is not that key player to build a team around....[/quote] You keep repeating this "build a team around" nonsense. If it was true, what do you think would happen if that player was injured? Would games have to be postponed until he regained his fitness? Ridiculous idea! These days clubs have squads using different formations and tactics which change from game to game. No-one builds a team around one player. Your repeated reference to Grant Holt as "the tyre fitter" is disrepectful too. We all know how he started out but he''s been a successful footballer for many years now and is currently captain of a Premier League side and one of our top scores of all time. The guy''s a legend and deserves more respect than some goon trying to belittle him all the time. Just as the pant wetters were proved wrong last season, I hope Grant Holt stays with Norwich City and has really good season to prove the doubters wrong again. [/quote] Fully agree with all of this ^^^^^^^^^^^

Duncan Forbes for me

[quote user="Lets be aving you"]Freelance translator (most western European languages bar Finnish and Greek).   Useful on the Pink Un mainly in the summer, when the foreign rumours peak. [/quote] Wow, that''s impressive. I''m a lecturer

[quote user="Herman "]As an England fan I can''t wait. Really excited to see what we can achieve.[/quote] Hahah :-)

[quote user="PurpleCanary"][quote user="macdougalls perm"][quote user="Rock The Boat"][quote user="macdougall sperm"][quote user="Jan van Chopsburg"][quote user="paul moy"][quote user="The Pinkun Role Model"][quote user="whoareyou"]As mentioned governments can no longer dictate much in the way of economic policy because so many multinational companies are now far more wealthy and powerful than governments of most countries.[/quote] This is the point imo. Arguing over which party caused the recession is just a red herring. It was caused by these multinational companies and powerful bankers etc. The Ed Balls and George Osbornes of this world are just the puppets in the financial game.[/quote]Indeed, but it was obvious that as soon as an inevitable cyclical recession occurred that we would not be able to balance the books day to day as commitments without any control had been made on PFI, welfare, public sector, immigration et al that were totally unsustainable once tax revenues fell due to falling GDP. We are all now unfortunately reaping the whirlwind from 13 years of  ''socialist'' profligacy for decades to come.   [/quote]Well, we got there in the end.[/quote] And this ^^^^^^ [/quote] I don''t understand. Are you saying we shouldn''t discuss the effects of immigration on our country? [/quote] I''m saying that without immigration and the subsequent cheap workforce our economy would be in much worse shape that it currently is. And you can file that under FACT.  [/quote]   There are always downsides as well as benefits to belonging to any large organisation. But overall belonging to the EU has brought the UK trading benefits that it would not enjoy if it wasn''t a member. And this will only increase if the mooted mega US-EU trade deal goes ahead. The UK would really be out in the cold if it wasn''t part of that. And not just economically. The UK''s political influence in the world, such as it is, comes from being part of the EU. Otherwise we are just another middle-ranking nation. The "special relationship" with the US does not exist. The only country with which the US has such a tie is Israel. [/quote] I agree with what you are saying here completely but I don''t see how it relates even vaguely to the benefits of immigration? Can you enlighten me please?

[quote user="paul moy"][quote user="Jan van Chopsburg"][quote user="paul moy"][quote user="The Pinkun Role Model"][quote user="whoareyou"]As mentioned governments can no longer dictate much in the way of economic policy because so many multinational companies are now far more wealthy and powerful than governments of most countries.[/quote] This is the point imo. Arguing over which party caused the recession is just a red herring. It was caused by these multinational companies and powerful bankers etc. The Ed Balls and George Osbornes of this world are just the puppets in the financial game.[/quote]Indeed, but it was obvious that as soon as an inevitable cyclical recession occurred that we would not be able to balance the books day to day as commitments without any control had been made on PFI, welfare, public sector, immigration et al that were totally unsustainable once tax revenues fell due to falling GDP. We are all now unfortunately reaping the whirlwind from 13 years of  ''socialist'' profligacy for decades to come.   [/quote]Well, we got there in the end.[/quote]The left are in denial and screaming ''racism'' as usual when anybody mentions that immigration may be a cost to the UK taxpayer.  Just look up information on the higher crime rate proportionately (impacting prisons, courts, police etc) , greatly increased birth rate proportionately (impacting on hospitals, schools, welfare etc), language problems (impacting translation support, welfare) and increased competition for employment resulting in high unemployment of our own youngsters and thus also impacting welfare costs.  Then we have silly EU child benefit rules which mean we are paying out for 40,000 +   children in Poland whose fathers work here. [/quote] But you choose to conveniently ignore the contribution of an (exploited) immigrant workforce to our economy. How convenient. 

[quote user="paul moy"][quote user=" Badger"]"Well, it''s the Bank of England who are printing billions through quantitative easing who are purchasing the government bonds that are keeping us going. If we were in the Euro we would truly be in a mess as we would have to borrow from the ECB as the likes of Greece are doing." Why is this myth?[/quote]I''d also be interested to hear a cogent answer from the ''enlightened'' lefties instead of their constant rubbishing of factual information.....  [/quote] Because ''quantitative easing'' is a hilarious euphemism for simply printing more money backed by nothing. Ever heard of Weimar hyperinflation?  

[quote user="Rock The Boat"][quote user="macdougall sperm"][quote user="Jan van Chopsburg"][quote user="paul moy"][quote user="The Pinkun Role Model"][quote user="whoareyou"]As mentioned governments can no longer dictate much in the way of economic policy because so many multinational companies are now far more wealthy and powerful than governments of most countries.[/quote] This is the point imo. Arguing over which party caused the recession is just a red herring. It was caused by these multinational companies and powerful bankers etc. The Ed Balls and George Osbornes of this world are just the puppets in the financial game.[/quote]Indeed, but it was obvious that as soon as an inevitable cyclical recession occurred that we would not be able to balance the books day to day as commitments without any control had been made on PFI, welfare, public sector, immigration et al that were totally unsustainable once tax revenues fell due to falling GDP. We are all now unfortunately reaping the whirlwind from 13 years of  ''socialist'' profligacy for decades to come.   [/quote]Well, we got there in the end.[/quote] And this ^^^^^^ [/quote] I don''t understand. Are you saying we shouldn''t discuss the effects of immigration on our country? [/quote] I''m saying that without immigration and the subsequent cheap workforce our economy would be in much worse shape that it currently is. And you can file that under FACT. 

[quote user="Jan van Chopsburg"][quote user="paul moy"][quote user="The Pinkun Role Model"][quote user="whoareyou"]As mentioned governments can no longer dictate much in the way of economic policy because so many multinational companies are now far more wealthy and powerful than governments of most countries.[/quote] This is the point imo. Arguing over which party caused the recession is just a red herring. It was caused by these multinational companies and powerful bankers etc. The Ed Balls and George Osbornes of this world are just the puppets in the financial game.[/quote]Indeed, but it was obvious that as soon as an inevitable cyclical recession occurred that we would not be able to balance the books day to day as commitments without any control had been made on PFI, welfare, public sector, immigration et al that were totally unsustainable once tax revenues fell due to falling GDP. We are all now unfortunately reaping the whirlwind from 13 years of  ''socialist'' profligacy for decades to come.   [/quote]Well, we got there in the end.[/quote] And this ^^^^^^

[quote user="TCCANARY"][quote user="paul moy"][quote user="whoareyou"]TBH i don''t think i will be votingh for any of them at the next election as none of them really know what they are doing but Ed doesn''t even convince himself when he opens his mouth.If him and Miliband are in charge next time, we will be bankrupt within a year and there will be no money for anything. We are completely at the behest of those who are lending the government money to fund its deficit.[/quote]Well, it''s the Bank of England who are printing billions through quantitative easing who are purchasing the government bonds that are keeping us going. If we were in the Euro we would truly be in a mess as we would have to borrow from the ECB as the likes of  Greece are doing.  We will all pay though via the knock-on side-effects of inflation in the long-run.  [/quote] The bit in bold type should be moved to the ''MYTH'' thread.     [/quote] Exactly!

Fair enough. But he is one of the players on our books at the moment who I think is proven to be worth his place in a team going forwards in the Prem and I can''t see how it helps for thousands of people to be singing a song which obviously p***es him off. NWCC''s song has got it all and, heaven forbid, expresses support for one of our better players. What a wacky idea :-) but, as you were ... :-)

Great song NWCC - and a lot more appropriate. Reckon that one will work a treat!

[quote user="Snoddys Jockstrap"]i am not a simpleton and completely adore the ''used to be shite'' chant. being a paid professional, i''m sure he isnt bothered to the extent that it would affect his performance.[/quote] You sure about that? Cos your contributions to this thread certainly make you seem simple to the onlooker.