Helsinki canary 244 Posted May 8, 2022 11 minutes ago, norfolkngood said: have the fans turned on webber yet ? and chants of sack the board ? 4-0 down i would thought be the tipping point Not a murmur of sack the board or Webber out, terrible performance by the crowd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chicken 2,649 Posted May 8, 2022 14 minutes ago, Ken Hairy said: That's not what I said, we were comparing the chance of bouncing back next season with the fact we did last time. We had Skipp in the last CHAMPIONSHIP season. If you're going to join in then try to keep up with what's being said I was, your response was poor, if you'd intended it to apply to the bounce back season, you should have made that your point - eg; The only reason we bounced back was retaining Buendia and loaning Skipp. However - Zac's point remains unchallenged. We have done as poorly with Buendia as without him in the PL. And at exactly the same point last time out, we didn't know we were going to land a player like Skipp on loan or otherwise. So one could argue, which Zac is, that if we keep Rashica and add a better DM, who says we couldn't be upwardly competitive in the Championship again next season? Of course there is never any guarantee. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Helsinki canary 244 Posted May 8, 2022 Home crowd already on the beach 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fiery Zac 1,066 Posted May 8, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Ken Hairy said: You certainly bloody insinuated it, and you know it. If not your post was utterly pointless as a retort 🙄 Not interested in a pointless back and forth, 'but you meant this..' argument. Happy to debate but won't have my words twisted (so really shouldn't be on here at all I suppose.) One last time, my point was we have won the championship after being relegated, without making the radical changes you insist we must if we are to have a chance of even staying up next season! At no point did i say we will be fine however. That is very much dependent on the summer, integration, new philosophy etc. But I think writing off next seasons ambitions already is foolish. Edited May 8, 2022 by Fiery Zac Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Paddons Beard 2,450 Posted May 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Helsinki canary said: Home crowd already on the beach Ha ha . Never a more true word. The ground will empty and apathy will prevail. I thought it would be 5 so not all bad . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Helsinki canary 244 Posted May 8, 2022 Pukki the only one who keeps fighting 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank shoots Skyler 2,094 Posted May 8, 2022 12 minutes ago, Fiery Zac said: Not as confident as last time certainly. But I don't believe Smith has had a chance to make his mark on the club yet. He's done what he can with the poor squad he's walked in to. He deserves the chance to create his side, make his signings and (most importantly) get the team to play the way he wants them to, not just the way he thinks is a way to get some results in the PL with a non-PL squad. Yep I agree with all of that. He certainly does deserve a chance. But I’m finding it hard to ‘remember what happened last time’ for any kind of comfort about this relegation unfortunately! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Disco Dales Jockstrap 1,898 Posted May 8, 2022 This man deserves better. OTBC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yellow_belly 226 Posted May 8, 2022 I thought it would be 0-5 so strangely disappointed 😂 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Hairy 3,781 Posted May 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, chicken said: I was, your response was poor, if you'd intended it to apply to the bounce back season, you should have made that your point - eg; The only reason we bounced back was retaining Buendia and loaning Skipp. However - Zac's point remains unchallenged. We have done as poorly with Buendia as without him in the PL. And at exactly the same point last time out, we didn't know we were going to land a player like Skipp on loan or otherwise. So one could argue, which Zac is, that if we keep Rashica and add a better DM, who says we couldn't be upwardly competitive in the Championship again next season? Of course there is never any guarantee. Are you for real??? The whole conversation started with me saying we have no chance of bouncing back next season. He's countered that by saying we've done it before. This conversation was literally started with me talking about us bouncing back, or rather that we won't. Zacs point about us being as bad with or without Buendia in the Premier hasn't been countered as...... THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS DEBATE HAS BEEN ABOUT!!!!...... Jesus I'm tired 😂😂 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Disco Dales Jockstrap 1,898 Posted May 8, 2022 Are we still playing? I've drunk so much my eyes aren't working. Bonus! OTBC 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Hairy 3,781 Posted May 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, Fiery Zac said: Not interested in a pointless back and forth, 'but you meant this..' argument. Happy to debate but won't have my words twisted (so really shouldn't be on here at all I suppose.) One last time, my point was we have won the championship after being relegated, without making the radical changes you insist we must if we are to have a chance of even staying up next season! At no point did i say we will be fine however. That is very much dependent on the summer, integration, new philosophy etc. But I think writing off next seasons ambitions already is foolish. And that's fine, happy to disagree re next season chances. Think we've both possibly taken each others points out of context slightly. Not sure what Chickens beef is mind, clearly not read from the start of our exchanges. Enjoy the rest of your afternoon 👍 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted May 8, 2022 9 minutes ago, Helsinki canary said: Home crowd already on the beach West Runton is a sea of yellow and green this afternoon……don’t fancy a dip!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
percy varco 201 Posted May 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, Hank shoots Skyler said: Yep I agree with all of that. He certainly does deserve a chance. But I’m finding it hard to ‘remember what happened last time’ for any kind of comfort about this relegation unfortunately! I’ve still no idea how Smith wants his team to play. Even using a squad he inherited I don’t see the foundation of how he is trying to shape a team. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GodlyOtsemobor 2,407 Posted May 8, 2022 What a result!!! Well done lads, keeping it down to 4! Championship Champions 22/23 Championees ole ole ole 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Virtual reality 718 Posted May 8, 2022 (edited) I’d imagine the tutting and shaking of heads at full time was a sight to behold… Edited May 8, 2022 by Virtual reality 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Helsinki canary 244 Posted May 8, 2022 Smith gets 10-15games next season Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 6,811 Posted May 8, 2022 Very weak short boos at the end again.. Then again half full stadium Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fiery Zac 1,066 Posted May 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Ken Hairy said: And that's fine, happy to disagree re next season chances. Think we've both possibly taken each others points out of context slightly. Not sure what Chickens beef is mind, clearly not read from the start of our exchanges. Enjoy the rest of your afternoon 👍 Thanks. I think our main disagreement is on how we'll get on next season. Who knows, it's certainly a big job over the summer. I do think Smith deserves a chance though, much like Farke got (and we know what happened there.) Too much change also makes the challenge that much bigger at another time where we need to be bouncing back ASAP. OTBC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Hairy 3,781 Posted May 8, 2022 (edited) Anyhoo back to today, who did Rupp come on for, genuinely thought it was Krankie until he took that woeful free kick, didn't notice him at all until then in the 2nd half...... Not that I was particularly paying attention by that point. Edited May 8, 2022 by Ken Hairy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AJ 1,230 Posted May 8, 2022 12 minutes ago, Helsinki canary said: Pukki the only one who keeps fighting Agreed, we offer very little going forward but he still looks like he might get a goal. Placheta looked alright after coming on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Hairy 3,781 Posted May 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, Helsinki canary said: Smith gets 10-15 minute next season Fixed 😜 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted May 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Fiery Zac said: Thanks. I think our main disagreement is on how we'll get on next season. Who knows, it's certainly a big job over the summer. I do think Smith deserves a chance though, much like Farke got (and we know what happened there.) Too much change also makes the challenge that much bigger at another time where we need to be bouncing back ASAP. OTBC Of course we can bounce back but personally I see it being harder with Deano in charge. Despite us knowing Buendia was class we didn't know about Skipp. And we had DF in charge with his style and system. I just do not see one at the moment. I know heads are down but you are told at press conferences that we will play for every point. I see absolutely no evidence of that. I think we are a very poor side being coached badly. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Hairy 3,781 Posted May 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, Fiery Zac said: Thanks. I think our main disagreement is on how we'll get on next season. Who knows, it's certainly a big job over the summer. I do think Smith deserves a chance though, much like Farke got (and we know what happened there.) Too much change also makes the challenge that much bigger at another time where we need to be bouncing back ASAP. OTBC 👍Apologies for being slightly OTT, I should steer clear of the Internet on match days 😜😂 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarydan23 4,060 Posted May 8, 2022 I'm stood near the cathedral picking my son up from something and can hear some sack the board chants. Anyone know what's gorn orn? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wirecanary 26 Posted May 8, 2022 How Smith can defend that or most of the players after that .. the silence from Webber delia too is deafening .. what an embarrassment we have become . Not sure I cam even believe in Smith either unless he signs some serious spine players in summer …. Major Surgery is needed in Key Areas not convinced this mob is good enough despite what others may think on here without serious injection of Graft in team Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fiery Zac 1,066 Posted May 8, 2022 1 minute ago, keelansgrandad said: Of course we can bounce back but personally I see it being harder with Deano in charge. Despite us knowing Buendia was class we didn't know about Skipp. And we had DF in charge with his style and system. I just do not see one at the moment. I know heads are down but you are told at press conferences that we will play for every point. I see absolutely no evidence of that. I think we are a very poor side being coached badly. Fair enough. I don't believe what we've seen under Smith is his style and system but simply the only style and system he could implement with the poor squad he inherited that may result in getting any points at the top level. It worked on occasion and we'll never know what may have happened had injuries not happened over Xmas and then Idah being out for the rest of the season. I look forward to seeing his style and system implemented, and he will then rightly be judged if he can take the club forward. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fiery Zac 1,066 Posted May 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, Ken Hairy said: 👍Apologies for being slightly OTT, I should steer clear of the Internet on match days 😜😂 Me too, and no worries. I'm normally at the game so can vent my passion and frustrations there. Always dangerous doing that on a message board! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted May 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Fiery Zac said: Fair enough. I don't believe what we've seen under Smith is his style and system but simply the only style and system he could implement with the poor squad he inherited that may result in getting any points at the top level. It worked on occasion and we'll never know what may have happened had injuries not happened over Xmas and then Idah being out for the rest of the season. I look forward to seeing his style and system implemented, and he will then rightly be judged if he can take the club forward. I really hope you are right but I feel much sadder than I did two seasons ago. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarydan23 4,060 Posted May 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, canarydan23 said: I'm stood near the cathedral picking my son up from something and can hear some sack the board chants. Anyone know what's gorn orn? I can now hear "We want Webber Out", must be a few more gathered than last match for me to hear it from here. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites