Delia Going Nowhere ( And She Admits to Booing )

[Worthy Nigelton 1,045]

50 minutes ago, Kenny Foggo said:

So the interview before this one saying she would put a sale to a vote of the fans was b**ls**t.

It's her little play thing and we as the funders of the self funding model have zero say...

Spot on.

[king canary 7,606]

37 minutes ago, PurpleCanary said:

Or she simply didn't mention that stipulation in this other interview. These interviews are all based around and focused on the non-football book she has just had published, so any football questions and comments are subsidiary to that. The promise to put any reasonable offer to a vote of the fans stands unless it is rescinded.

She's making it up as she goes along which isn't great from a fan perspective.

She can obviously say what she likes, it's her club but it just adds more fuel to the criticism.

[hogesar 9,671]

23 minutes ago, Badger said:

Sorry - when did she say she would put the club up for sale?

She didn't. But there's a weird situation on here now where posters like Kenny only believe interviews that support their predetermined view of Delia. The other interviews that don't suit are clearly rubbish. 

[hogesar 9,671]

2 minutes ago, king canary said:

She's making it up as she goes along which isn't great from a fan perspective.

She can obviously say what she likes, it's her club but it just adds more fuel to the criticism.

Only she never said she was selling the club. The two interviews aren't even contradictory 

[Crafty Canary 495]

Delia not leaving shocker. Who’d have thought it?

[Badger 2,405]

Just now, hogesar said:

She didn't. But there's a weird situation on here now where posters like Kenny only believe interviews that support their predetermined view of Delia. The other interviews that don't suit are clearly rubbish. 

I think it is more to do with a lack of verbal fluency. Whilst some may be just sh1tstirrers, others are genuine but don't have the mental dexterity to comprehend something that is nuanced: to use a term that seems ubiquitous of late, they are binary thinkers.

[chicken 2,624]

1 hour ago, TIL 1010 said:

I thought booing was tinpot or so i read on here but i guess in the eyes of some it depends who is doing it ?

Booing your own players because you are angry they are not worth £30m a piece is tin-pot. Booing your own players because you disagree with their freedom of expression and choice to take a knee before kick-off is also tin-pot.

Booing opposition fans for distasteful chants - on point.

Love how broken logic is tried to be used as an argument here. It wasn't the act of booing that was called tin-pot, but the fact that people were booing players using their freedom of expression to take the knee. The very thing people fought and died for. But you know, make it just about the "booing".

I used to have a lot of respect for you Tilly, but these days you seem to go down strange paths that put you in a very iffy light. You, more than many, should know how the same act can be seen in different lights depending upon it's motive and it's target.


 

[Robornio 107]

She’s reached that stage of utter delusion. If she thinks that we (the fans) are content with how her and Mr WJ are running things, then she’s away with fairies. It’s irritating to see them treat the club as a country club or comfy hobby. We want competitive football at the highest level, which (however unfortunate) now requires financial backing. Stick the “self sustaining” BS up your proverbial, Delia. 

[PurpleCanary 5,558]

12 minutes ago, king canary said:

She's making it up as she goes along which isn't great from a fan perspective.

She can obviously say what she likes, it's her club but it just adds more fuel to the criticism.

It doesn't strike me that she is. In the two interviews she seems to be saying pretty much the same thing - that she is not looking to sell and is still committed to the club. In one she added the intriguing comment that if they did get a reasonable offer (which could happen even she is not looking to sell) then the fans would get a vote.

[chicken 2,624]

Actually I have a lot of respect for Delia after that piece. She is also questioning why it has taken 20yrs and a war for anyone to question Abramovic's ownership?

Fit and proper tests are clearly a stinking pile of baloney.

I know Chelsea fans and I have said the same to them. It stinks massively of hypocrisy. How many other owners should have the same treatment? Do massive breaches in human rights count for anything? The Newcastle owners? Man City's owners?

We're told the Oligarch's were using businesses like Chelsea to "launder" money. To clean it. Most of us who have been around as football fans for more than 10yrs will know this has gone on for years. QPR had owners linked to the Italian Mafia at one point. Man City had an owner who sold up and was then promptly arrested by his own country.

If there is anything that says that English football needs a huge overhaul this has to be it. The rules are never applied evenly, never enforced properly and always have glaring loopholes that only wealthy clubs can take advantage of.

This is just another example. Fit and proper tests are clearly utterly useless.

[alex_ncfc 662]

She thinks she's going nowhere, she won't really have a say once the fans turn properly.

[chicken 2,624]

4 minutes ago, PurpleCanary said:

It doesn't strike me that she is. In the two interviews she seems to be saying pretty much the same thing - that she is not looking to sell and is still committed to the club. In one she added the intriguing comment that if they did get a reasonable offer (which could happen even she is not looking to sell) then the fans would get a vote.

Yup - there have been a lot of interesting developments in recent years that suggests that they might leave a bit of a legacy for the fans. I think they like the German approach to club ownership, so who knows?

Also, I think a lot of fans get confused about "not looking to sell" meaning "won't sell". I have owned things that I wasn't looking to sell but then someone made me an offer and I considered it or accepted it. The two are not mutually exclusive. The only real difference is that if you are actively trying to sell, you tend to appoint someone to drum up prospective buyers - which we have done in the past with little success (Toney Fernandez aside).

[chicken 2,624]

1 minute ago, alex_ncfc said:

She thinks she's going nowhere, she won't really have a say once the fans turn properly.

Being old enough to remember the last time, I don't think we are remotely close to that point at the moment.

[TIL 1010 4,746]

1 minute ago, alex_ncfc said:

She thinks she's going nowhere, she won't really have a say once the fans turn properly.

You do realise The Apologists think it is a very small minority who are against her reign continuing ?

[alex_ncfc 662]

1 minute ago, chicken said:

Being old enough to remember the last time, I don't think we are remotely close to that point at the moment.

I'm also old enough. And the fans won't continue to put up with it - it won't take much longer for them to turn, there are only so many opportunities this club can waste to become established, and it isn't going to happen under these owners. Once the discontent starts it will snowball. Although I have probably underestimated how easily pleased some Norwich fans are with accepting mediocrity and won't hear a word against darling Delia.

Just now, TIL 1010 said:

You do realise The Apologists think it is a very small minority who are against her reign continuing ?

And yes that is very true, Til. But they are wrong. I believe the results of the poll ran on here to be indicative of the thoughts and feelings of most of the fanbase.

As much as Delia likes to think she's going nowhere, the club is not hers. She might be the owner, but it isn't hers to do with what she likes.

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

12 minutes ago, chicken said:

Actually I have a lot of respect for Delia after that piece. She is also questioning why it has taken 20yrs and a war for anyone to question Abramovic's ownership?

Fit and proper tests are clearly a stinking pile of baloney.

I know Chelsea fans and I have said the same to them. It stinks massively of hypocrisy. How many other owners should have the same treatment? Do massive breaches in human rights count for anything? The Newcastle owners? Man City's owners?

We're told the Oligarch's were using businesses like Chelsea to "launder" money. To clean it. Most of us who have been around as football fans for more than 10yrs will know this has gone on for years. QPR had owners linked to the Italian Mafia at one point. Man City had an owner who sold up and was then promptly arrested by his own country.

If there is anything that says that English football needs a huge overhaul this has to be it. The rules are never applied evenly, never enforced properly and always have glaring loopholes that only wealthy clubs can take advantage of.

This is just another example. Fit and proper tests are clearly utterly useless.

What you say is true and apart from the "illegal" owners there are the ones who in some quarters would be described as immoral.  Brighton's owner has made most of his wealth from setting up gambling sites and Sullivan and the Golds through pornography. There are enough Chinese owners whose home country has its own opinion on human rights.

And you could include the owners of Manure and Burnley who borrowed the money from basically the club itself to buy itself.

[nutty nigel 7,534]

https://www.deliaonline.com/whats-new/2022/02/you-matter-the-human-solution-by-delia-smith

Plenty of chances to catch up with Delia's views here.

Even go to a live event if you fancy it.

I'm proud of her. Glad it's not a book about how to launder money stolen from Russian people.

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

7 minutes ago, alex_ncfc said:

I'm also old enough. And the fans won't continue to put up with it - it won't take much longer for them to turn, there are only so many opportunities this club can waste to become established, and it isn't going to happen under these owners. Once the discontent starts it will snowball. Although I have probably underestimated how easily pleased some Norwich fans are with accepting mediocrity and won't hear a word against darling Delia.

And yes that is very true, Til. But they are wrong. I believe the results of the poll ran on here to be indicative of the thoughts and feelings of most of the fanbase.

As much as Delia likes to think she's going nowhere, the club is not hers. She might be the owner, but it isn't hers to do with what she likes.

I think most supporters would welcome new owners. Its all very well saying with pride we are a self financing model but we all know that is likely to condemn us to being uncompetitive. Its not disloyal to wish for new owners.

[hogesar 9,671]

21 minutes ago, chicken said:

Being old enough to remember the last time, I don't think we are remotely close to that point at the moment.

Not only that, weve already been in considerably worse positions under their ownership. Even relegation to the third tier only saw a single 50 person demonstration which quickly went away.

[dylanisabaddog 4,921]

1 hour ago, Kenny Foggo said:

So the interview before this one saying she would put a sale to a vote of the fans was b**ls**t.

It's her little play thing and we as the funders of the self funding model have zero say...

I'm no great fan of Delia but - 

1. Along with Watling she dug us out of the Chase mess when no one else was remotely interested

2. She coughed up when we nearly went into administration in League 1

3. You do NOT fund her model. Sky TV does. If she hadn't dug us out of a complete mess we wouldn't have even seen a sniff of the Sky money. 

4. Posters on here consistently complain about her but faced with the first tiny increase in season ticket prices in years they wet their pants and threw their toys out of the pram. 

 

[TIL 1010 4,746]

16 minutes ago, hogesar said:

Not only that, weve already been in considerably worse positions under their ownership. Even relegation to the third tier only saw a single 50 person demonstration which quickly went away.

You obviously have forgotten the 500 people who turned up to discuss our situation following relegation in 2009 at St Andrews Hall.

 

[TIL 1010 4,746]

3 minutes ago, dylanisabaddog said:

 

4. Posters on here consistently complain about her but faced with the first tiny increase in season ticket prices in years they wet their pants and threw their toys out of the pram. 

 

Point of order it was not an increase but an ' adjustment ' of the prices.

[Mello Yello 2,293]

1 hour ago, Badger said:

I think it is more to do with a lack of verbal fluency. Whilst some may be just sh1tstirrers, others are genuine but don't have the mental dexterity to comprehend something that is nuanced: to use a term that seems ubiquitous of late, they are binary thinkers.

....Your face again whilst writing the above.....

[hogesar 9,671]

10 minutes ago, TIL 1010 said:

You obviously have forgotten the 500 people who turned up to discuss our situation following relegation in 2009 at St Andrews Hall.

 

And how well did that work out in actually getting new owners? It didn't. At all. And 500 is still a really small chunk.

And on top of that, we are in a much stronger position as a club now compared to then.

[komakino 272]

Delia's doing for Norwich City what the Boston Strangler did for door to door salesman. 

[TIL 1010 4,746]

1 minute ago, hogesar said:

And how well did that work out in actually getting new owners? It didn't. At all. And 500 is still a really small chunk.

And on top of that, we are in a much stronger position as a club now compared to then.

Well it is certainly way more than the 50 you mentioned and the hall was packed out to capacity so to assume that was the sum total of disgruntled fans is rather ridiculous.

[nutty nigel 7,534]

1 hour ago, alex_ncfc said:

She thinks she's going nowhere, she won't really have a say once the fans turn properly.

It's taken you 16 years Alex 

A y idea when it's happening?

 

 

[baldy09 156]

I like a good BOO with chips and a Delia pie, during matches

[nutty nigel 7,534]

The 500 at the Andrews certainly weren't all Delia Out.

As Tilly says that wasn't the purpose of the meeting

[hogesar 9,671]

2 minutes ago, nutty nigel said:

The 500 at the Andrews certainly weren't all Delia Out.

As Tilly says that wasn't the purpose of the meeting

Hes telling me otherwise in this thread...