Delia Going Nowhere ( And She Admits to Booing )

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Strange how Delia is normally in the background re TV and Press appearances when City are on a downward trend, when they have promotion or a winning streak she is everywhere. Then I read the article in the EDP "she was here to stay" and got to the last paragraph where the EDP kindly provided her with a "free" advert

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Delia was speaking as part of the launch of her new book 'You Matter: The Human Solution' which was released earlier this month

Surprised it did not give the price and how to put in an order for it, but I expect that will come in an EDP follow-up article of at least 2 full pages in the coming days. Probably not selling too well so needed a push.

[Capt. Pants 4,274]

4 hours ago, Helsinki canary said:

Young Tom waiting in the wings

He'll be thinking, crikey I really am going to get this.

He might well inherit a business, but he'll have to earn the goodwill.

[Badger 2,411]

1 hour ago, Mello Yello said:

How many on here took up the offer to jump on free buses laid on by our Democracy Supporting Club Matriarch, to descend on London to protest against vote winning Brexit?......

🤔 Of course some of the persistent opponents of the club are nothing to do with football at all, just politically motivated activity against "the Suffolk socialists" as another poster calls them.

[Badger 2,411]

51 minutes ago, TIL 1010 said:

What i do know is that there was a vote regarding no confidence in the board of directors and it was overwhelming passed with literally only a handful voting against the motion.

So in other words at some stage back in ancient history a group of malcontents called a meeting for other malcontents and said malcontents passed a motion saying that they were malcontent.

Is this meant to prove anything?

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  1 hour ago, Mello Yello said:

How many on here took up the offer to jump on free buses laid on by our Democracy Supporting Club Matriarch, to descend on London to protest against vote winning Brexit?......

 Of course some of the persistent opponents of the club are nothing to do with football at all, just politically motivated activity against "the Suffolk socialists" as another poster calls them.

 

 

Are 

 

[(Hoola)Han Solo 324]

For all the talk of dirty and corrupt Premier League money, Delia and Michael have been happy to accept it. Without the parachute payments and TV money, where would we be? League One? League Two? Bust?

The whole self-funding model relies on us being a yo-yo or if not an uncompetitive Championship side or worse (like 1995 to 2004 and 2005 to 2011).

[chicken 2,640]

1 hour ago, Kenny Foggo said:

I stated the argument above... Team, club in generally etc.

Thanks

Nope, you stated a different argument, but there you go.

 

[chicken 2,640]

1 hour ago, Kenny Foggo said:

I'm sure you can find a book about it in your extensive library...

Step one.. announce your looking for new investment or ownership. DO NOT state your not selling.. especially to nasty foreigners ✌️

Did Burnley announce they were for sale?

I seem to remember Mike Ashley announced that and it took him a long while to find a suitable buyer.

It is not like selling your house, it's more like businesses being sold. Often, if it is a successful business, you don't need to put it up for sale, people come knocking. If you announce it is for sale, people tend to think it's struggling.

She's also not said she isn't selling in the article linked. And again, not looking to sell doesn't mean it isn't available to buy. 

[chicken 2,640]

1 hour ago, Kenny Foggo said:

Sorry. I forgot you think we don't sell things by advertising them for sale...😂😂😂

Isn't a banner just advertising so by your logic it's pointless... This is fun!

 

Look at the business world, it rarely works like that. You have to remember this is about shares. The moment you announce you are selling your shares, the value in them drops - not just for you, but all of the shareholders. That is why businesses tend to put themselves up for sale when that has already happened due to falling profits etc. Usually in business, it's done on the hush or someone comes in and puts down an offer that the current shareholders can't refuse.

Have a look at the clubs in the EPL and EFL and see how many were taken over after a club was put up for sale and you'll see what I mean.

Only real exception I can see is Newcastle at the moment - and how long has Ashley been trying to sell them for?

[chicken 2,640]

1 hour ago, TIL 1010 said:

What i do know is that there was a vote regarding no confidence in the board of directors and it was overwhelming passed with literally only a handful voting against the motion.

Right. So it having taken place 13yrs ago, is the board of directors the same? What was the feeling at the last AGM? What about more recent fan forums etc?

Sorry, but evidencing something from 13yrs ago is just evidencing that event. For someone used to gathering evidence, this is strenuous at best.

[TIL 1010 4,783]

37 minutes ago, Badger said:

So in other words at some stage back in ancient history a group of malcontents called a meeting for other malcontents and said malcontents passed a motion saying that they were malcontent.

Is this meant to prove anything?

Just for the avoidance of doubt it was a meeting open to all fans.

[TIL 1010 4,783]

9 minutes ago, chicken said:

Right. So it having taken place 13yrs ago, is the board of directors the same? What was the feeling at the last AGM? What about more recent fan forums etc?

Sorry, but evidencing something from 13yrs ago is just evidencing that event. For someone used to gathering evidence, this is strenuous at best.

If you look back it was mentioned in relation to a post where hogesar stated that back in the day only 50 people protested upon relegation but of course adding context to what was posted is not appropriate obviously.

[nutty nigel 7,597]

I wonder if at anytime during the subsequent years if anyone was glad Delia and Michael saw things through in 2009.

There's certainly been more good times than bad.

[norfolkngood 1,087]

Delia has done well and has set the club up as self funded so unless a large error it will continue for future 

i think we really were on course until this season

the going up not spending hardly anything really made us stronger Financially 

last season we had a style of play which worked in champs  and some good young players to sell or keep 

we were debt free ( or very close ) and had a good transfer budget after we sold a gem 

then it all started to go wrong we sold Emi fair enough self funding so we half expected one of the 3 gems to go 

then  Cantwell  who i thought would be a key player this season went wrong 

so that was two of the so called higher priced  players gone with only income from one 

we  replaced them with players that either do not suit our style or not good enough 

also we sacked Farke ( which i agree with as was not working in PL again  ) 

i think next season will see if the self funded model works or not 

i am not confident in the team to produce it next season

once that PL money goes and the players worth money we have seen what that can do to a club without  owners who can put money in 

without a Lambert or a Farke this club could be back in the championship for some time 

 

 

[Badger 2,411]

49 minutes ago, TIL 1010 said:

Just for the avoidance of doubt it was a meeting open to all fans.

It was a meeting to which only a tiny minority of the most malcontent supporters. At the malcontents meeting, all those years ago, the malcontents voted to pass a motion to say that they were malcontent.

Again, is this meant to prove anything?

[TIL 1010 4,783]

1 minute ago, Badger said:

It was a meeting to which only a tiny minority of the most malcontent supporters. At the malcontents meeting, all those years ago, the malcontents voted to pass a motion to say that they were malcontent.

Again, is this meant to prove anything?

I only had this thread at 3 pages by tonight but as usual when you pitch up on a thread and just go on and  on and on for post after post i really should have known better.

You construe it however you want and rewrite what took place involving whoever whichever way you choice.

[hogesar 9,724]

54 minutes ago, TIL 1010 said:

If you look back it was mentioned in relation to a post where hogesar stated that back in the day only 50 people protested upon relegation but of course adding context to what was posted is not appropriate obviously.

To be fair I've been proven right. There were only 50, at its best, calling for Delia Out outside the Directors Entrance when we were relegated. The EDP were disappointed they made the journey down.

What you've referred to wasn't a protest against the owners. So the entire mentioning of it was pointless.

[TIL 1010 4,783]

Just now, hogesar said:

To be fair I've been proven right. There were only 50, at its best, calling for Delia Out outside the Directors Entrance when we were relegated. The EDP were disappointed they made the journey down.

What you've referred to wasn't a protest against the owners. So the entire mentioning of it was pointless.

Never wrong about anything now are you ? You never mentioned outside the directore entrance merely that 50 protested following relegation.,

[Badger 2,411]

1 hour ago, chicken said:

Did Burnley announce they were for sale?

I seem to remember Mike Ashley announced that and it took him a long while to find a suitable buyer.

1. Instead of asking just about Burnley, it might be better to ask which clubs in either of the top two divisions have actually been "put up for sale." I can't think of many and the vast majority of those that were in "distress."

Perhaps I'm wrong - perhaps there is a long list of  clubs for sale - perhaps the Fantasists group can elucidate?

2. It took Ashley13 years and he ended up selling cheaply to a group with very close association with human rights atrocities.

So another question to the the Fantasists, would you accept "dirty money."

[Badger 2,411]

14 minutes ago, TIL 1010 said:

I only had this thread at 3 pages by tonight but as usual when you pitch up on a thread and just go on and  on and on for post after post i really should have known better.

Says he with 14 posts on the thread. Sorry, if it annoys you that I try to  do my bit to protect the club from mindless assaults from people whose personal grudges and political bias outweighs their support for the club.

You construe it however you want and rewrite what took place involving whoever whichever way you choice.

So you don't want to explain what it proves? I think most people know why.

 

Edited March 12, 2022 by Badger
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[essex canary 504]

1 hour ago, (Hoola)Han Solo said:

For all the talk of dirty and corrupt Premier League money, Delia and Michael have been happy to accept it. Without the parachute payments and TV money, where would we be? League One? League Two? Bust?

The whole self-funding model relies on us being a yo-yo or if not an uncompetitive Championship side or worse (like 1995 to 2004 and 2005 to 2011).

Delia was quite right about Chelsea because their high wages are in part financed by dirty Russian money.

However if she wanted to be objective she could point out that NCFC's ratio of TV money to gate money is one of the highest in the country and is the only reason we are able to afford 7 figure salaries.

Some honesty in the context of the Crouch Report would be welcome.

[Mello Yello 2,302]

Wonder if I'm classed as an opponent of the club? It's costing me a fair few bob to do it if I am?....

Well for my sins I have supported this club both financially and vocally through various teams and through its many ups and downs  and have done so for well over a (mediocre to some) third of a century.....I've been a season ticket holder in one of the more expensive areas of the stadium since 1999 and although I was a club member pre ST (I didn't need an ST to get a seat for over a decade before then) I'm quite fortunate I can afford it, and it's my preference to sit where I sit - but that's by the by.....

It doesn't mean as a committed and longstanding ST holding NCFC fan, that it's also a loyal true fan requisite to have to fawn or show adulation to ever whom happens to own, or be in control, or be at the head of our club?....I couldn't abide Mr Chase as it happens and I protested outside Carra.....and without being accused of misogyny, (my better other half would cuff me if I ever was!) I'm also not a great admirer of Delia....Does that make me a Binner or not a good or loyal fan? Or make me lord forbid an 'M' and what my better half would clip me (or worse) if I ever was? 

Well Badger you seem to be sett in your ways but since when have you been appointed Judge and Jury of what a fan should be or what political persuasion they should ascribe to?...I initially thought you were going to answer the question I raised - but you preferred instead to ramble on about 'political motivation' and other stuff...

Anyway did you leap on one of the free buses that our Democracy Supporting Club Matriarch supplied to descend on London, so as to protest and voice your disapproval against vote winning Brexit?......Or wasn't it 'your bag?'.....

Oh and have you purchased Delia's latest book yet?....If not, why not?.....Personally I have no intention of purchasing said book....and the last book purchase connected to the club and which I got as a gift was Iwan's 'All I Want For Christmas' which incidentally, I still haven't read.....

Ps....I thought it was common knowledge that Delia is a Socialist who resides in Suffolk....(but is originally from Surrey)....

PPS....I voted for green shorts when we were gratefully given the vote....which was nice....

Sorry for rambling & going off on a tangent and talking guff, but unfortunately it seems prevalent on this here forum...I leave the point scoring and personal spats to those pseudo intellectuals and self appointed superior beings who attempt to cajole, control, belittle and post with an arrogant air of authority and whom assume only their opinion counts....Whilst I don't take myself seriously, I have fun, bit o' bantz and enjoy myself on here....

Maybe you and a few others should try it?.... 

[PurpleCanary 5,580]

4 hours ago, chicken said:

@PurpleCanary I wasn't expecting to have this confirmed quite so literally quite so soon!

Kenny, it's not exactly what she says. Won't sell is different to not looking to sell. She was asked if she had been tempted to leave and sell up - she said no. She didn't say she wouldn't consider an offer if a good one was made.

Again, that comes down to certain things as well, which Purple will be able to confirm, but a good offer also impacts upon other shareholders too I believe.

It depends on the form of the offer, but in general, yes.

[TIL 1010 4,783]

10 minutes ago, Mello Yello said:

Wonder if I'm classed as an opponent of the club? It's costing me a fair few bob to do it if I am?...

Sorry for rambling & going off on a tangent and talking guff, but unfortunately it seems prevalent on this here forum...I leave the point scoring and personal spats to those pseudo intellectuals and self appointed superior beings who attempt to cajole, control, belittle and post with an arrogant air of authority and whom assume only their opinion counts....Whilst I don't take myself seriously, I have fun, bit o' bantz and enjoy myself on here....

Maybe you and a few others should try it?.... 

 Post of the year so far Mello.

[Disco Dales Jockstrap 1,898]

16 minutes ago, Mello Yello said:

Sorry for rambling & going off on a tangent and talking guff, but unfortunately it seems prevalent on this here forum...I leave the point scoring and personal spats to those pseudo intellectuals and self appointed superior beings who attempt to cajole, control, belittle and post with an arrogant air of authority and whom assume only their opinion counts....Whilst I don't take myself seriously, I have fun, bit o' bantz and enjoy myself on here....

Maybe you and a few others should try it?.... 

Well I love ya Mello, if that counts for anything - you always raise a smile. 👍

OTBC

[essex canary 504]

4 minutes ago, Disco Dales Jockstrap said:

Well I love ya Mello, if that counts for anything - you always raise a smile. 👍

OTBC

Happy to be the third person to support that.

[Midlands Yellow 4,050]

2 hours ago, chicken said:

Right. So it having taken place 13yrs ago, is the board of directors the same? What was the feeling at the last AGM? What about more recent fan forums etc?

Sorry, but evidencing something from 13yrs ago is just evidencing that event. For someone used to gathering evidence, this is strenuous at best.

Go to bed Chicken. 

[Badger 2,411]

44 minutes ago, Mello Yello said:

Wonder if I'm classed as an opponent of the club? It's costing me a fair few bob to do it if I am?....

Well for my sins I have supported this club both financially and vocally through various teams and through its many ups and downs  and have done so for well over a (mediocre to some) third of a century.....I've been a season ticket holder in one of the more expensive areas of the stadium since 1999 and although I was a club member pre ST (I didn't need an ST to get a seat for over a decade before then) I'm quite fortunate I can afford it, and it's my preference to sit where I sit - but that's by the by.....

It doesn't mean as a committed and longstanding ST holding NCFC fan, that it's also a loyal true fan requisite to have to fawn or show adulation to ever whom happens to own, or be in control, or be at the head of our club?....I couldn't abide Mr Chase as it happens and I protested outside Carra.....and without being accused of misogyny, (my better other half would cuff me if I ever was!) I'm also not a great admirer of Delia....Does that make me a Binner or not a good or loyal fan? Or make me lord forbid an 'M' and what my better half would clip me (or worse) if I ever was? 

Well Badger you seem to be sett in your ways but since when have you been appointed Judge and Jury of what a fan should be or what political persuasion they should ascribe to?...I initially thought you were going to answer the question I raised - but you preferred instead to ramble on about 'political motivation' and other stuff...

Anyway did you leap on one of the free buses that our Democracy Supporting Club Matriarch supplied to descend on London, so as to protest and voice your disapproval against vote winning Brexit?......Or wasn't it 'your bag?'.....

Oh and have you purchased Delia's latest book yet?....If not, why not?.....Personally I have no intention of purchasing said book....and the last book purchase connected to the club and which I got as a gift was Iwan's 'All I Want For Christmas' which incidentally, I still haven't read.....

Ps....I thought it was common knowledge that Delia is a Socialist who resides in Suffolk....(but is originally from Surrey)....

PPS....I voted for green shorts when we were gratefully given the vote....which was nice....

Sorry for rambling & going off on a tangent and talking guff, but unfortunately it seems prevalent on this here forum...I leave the point scoring and personal spats to those pseudo intellectuals and self appointed superior beings who attempt to cajole, control, belittle and post with an arrogant air of authority and whom assume only their opinion counts....Whilst I don't take myself seriously, I have fun, bit o' bantz and enjoy myself on here....

Maybe you and a few others should try it?.... 

I'm glad that you enjoy yourself on here - I wouldn't want it any other way. You are a valued contributor to the message board and I think it is fair to say, a unique poster. 

FWIW, I have no doubts about your loyalty to the team although I don't understand why you need to raise the owners political affiliations and I am lost at your infatuation with the team and owners flying to long-distance  away games as every other premier league team does. However, your humour and wit is appreciated.

However, I am allowed to have opinions, just like anybody else and it is my opinion that some posters on here do not have any allegiance to the club: it would be naïve to assume that there are no wind up merchants on here just trying to sh1t stir. Imho, KENNY FOGGO is one such poster, amongst others, and several of my posts were largely addressed at him.

I do not think that it helps that the OP (another whose allegiance is beyond doubt) likes to caricature those who disagree with him as "Apologists" and will never engage in any meaningful debate about what I consider to be his simplistic views. For the umpteenth time, I and many others have no particular affiliation to the current owners, we just don't buy into the simplistic solutions that he and others are trying to sell.

I'm as frustrated and disappointed as everyone else that we have played so poorly this year, but my opinion is that it is that will be a lot easier to make things worse than they are, than to make them better. If some ethical multi-billionaire (if that is not an oxymoron) came along and wanted to gift us tens of millions of pounds I would be delighted: I just don't think it will happen.

Additionally, I cannot see any business case for an "investor" owner, as I cannot see how s/he would get their money back, let alone a profit. Nobody as far as I can recall has made any attempt to explain how either, so I kind of assume that they can't either.

So why label us as "apologists?" How is that constructive and conducive to harmony?

Anyway carry on posting, as I'm sure you were going to anyway. FWIW, I just wanted to make plain that I have no doubt over your allegiance and that your witty contributions are widely appreciated - even by those that disagree with you on some important issues.

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

30 minutes ago, Badger said:

1. Instead of asking just about Burnley, it might be better to ask which clubs in either of the top two divisions have actually been "put up for sale." I can't think of many and the vast majority of those that were in "distress."

Perhaps I'm wrong - perhaps there is a long list of  clubs for sale - perhaps the Fantasists group can elucidate?

2. It took Ashley13 years and he ended up selling cheaply to a group with very close association with human rights atrocities.

So another question to the the Fantasists, would you accept "dirty money."

Its very difficult, almost like VAR, to define dirty money. Abramovich's money was known to be at least contentious. Maybe that is why he couldn't get his citizenship.

Even the PFA is hiding the report into its dealings. If its not dirty then why hide.

But even the Vatican had investments that were considered dirty, including armaments.

I confronted Ron Todd, TGWU, why his Union had investments in multi national companies. He didn't like it and tried to defend it by blaming investment managers etc.

Even Escobar did some good with his dirty money.

Ashley made some of his money by exploiting some of his lowly paid workers.

While there is a legal argument, many people are equally offended by the moral one.

 

[Midlands Yellow 4,050]

1 hour ago, Mello Yello said:

Wonder if I'm classed as an opponent of the club? It's costing me a fair few bob to do it if I am?....

Well for my sins I have supported this club both financially and vocally through various teams and through its many ups and downs  and have done so for well over a (mediocre to some) third of a century.....I've been a season ticket holder in one of the more expensive areas of the stadium since 1999 and although I was a club member pre ST (I didn't need an ST to get a seat for over a decade before then) I'm quite fortunate I can afford it, and it's my preference to sit where I sit - but that's by the by.....

It doesn't mean as a committed and longstanding ST holding NCFC fan, that it's also a loyal true fan requisite to have to fawn or show adulation to ever whom happens to own, or be in control, or be at the head of our club?....I couldn't abide Mr Chase as it happens and I protested outside Carra.....and without being accused of misogyny, (my better other half would cuff me if I ever was!) I'm also not a great admirer of Delia....Does that make me a Binner or not a good or loyal fan? Or make me lord forbid an 'M' and what my better half would clip me (or worse) if I ever was? 

Well Badger you seem to be sett in your ways but since when have you been appointed Judge and Jury of what a fan should be or what political persuasion they should ascribe to?...I initially thought you were going to answer the question I raised - but you preferred instead to ramble on about 'political motivation' and other stuff...

Anyway did you leap on one of the free buses that our Democracy Supporting Club Matriarch supplied to descend on London, so as to protest and voice your disapproval against vote winning Brexit?......Or wasn't it 'your bag?'.....

Oh and have you purchased Delia's latest book yet?....If not, why not?.....Personally I have no intention of purchasing said book....and the last book purchase connected to the club and which I got as a gift was Iwan's 'All I Want For Christmas' which incidentally, I still haven't read.....

Ps....I thought it was common knowledge that Delia is a Socialist who resides in Suffolk....(but is originally from Surrey)....

PPS....I voted for green shorts when we were gratefully given the vote....which was nice....

Sorry for rambling & going off on a tangent and talking guff, but unfortunately it seems prevalent on this here forum...I leave the point scoring and personal spats to those pseudo intellectuals and self appointed superior beings who attempt to cajole, control, belittle and post with an arrogant air of authority and whom assume only their opinion counts....Whilst I don't take myself seriously, I have fun, bit o' bantz and enjoy myself on here....

Maybe you and a few others should try it?.... 

Had a tour of Headingley this afternoon, that post is a huge 6 and no one can find the ball. Absolutely excellent, poignant and a masterclass at making a point with class personified.