Webber Out

[First Wazzock 1,010]

Sent Farke to war without a gun.

Get's another shot at it, spent shed loads of money. Still hasn't got what we need to stay up, has learned nothing.

 

[cambridgeshire canary 7,797]

No, we got a gun. Except it's been bought on Wish and it was named gunn.

[Hucks6 186]

Webber and his stupid wife Zoe Ward think they are untouchable, Delia do the right to thing get rid

[PurpleCanary 6,378]

28 minutes ago, First Wazzock said:

Sent Farke to war without a gun.

Get's another shot at it, spent shed loads of money. Still hasn't got what we need to stay up, has learned nothing.

 

He should be given a chance this summer to get it right.

Edited February 25, 2022 by PurpleCanary

[Midlands Yellow 4,682]

21 minutes ago, Hucks6 said:

Webber and his stupid wife Zoe Ward think they are untouchable, Delia do the right to thing get rid

Only if she walks too. 

[Capt. Pants 5,005]

It's a shockingly poor squad for this level, you only need to look at the quality of our bench and amount we've spent on players who can't even get on it because they are not good enough.

[First Wazzock 1,010]

1 minute ago, PurpleCanary said:

He should be given a chance this summer to get it right.

Really?

He spent one of the biggest figures in Europe last summer, and still hasn't 'got' what we need.

The arrogance of not wanting to sign another contract with us, due to the fact he expected to be at a bigger club has now come home to roost. I wouldn't believe his own hype.

[hertfordyellow 462]

28 minutes ago, First Wazzock said:

Sent Farke to war without a gun.

Get's another shot at it, spent shed loads of money. Still hasn't got what we need to stay up, has learned nothing.

 

We spent 25 million net, 15 million was obligatory signings of loan players. It’s a drop in the ocean for premiership teams. Che Adams cost 17 million and he’s their 10th biggest signing. Fulham spent 110 million net and got relegated.

[hertfordyellow 462]

3 minutes ago, First Wazzock said:

Really?

He spent one of the biggest figures in Europe last summer, and still hasn't 'got' what we need.

The arrogance of not wanting to sign another contract with us, due to the fact he expected to be at a bigger club has now come home to roost. I wouldn't believe his own hype.

Not net he didn’t, not even close. And it’s wages that generally dwarf fees. There will be teams that spent less than us on fees but would have committed to much higher overall amounts when wages are considered.

[First Wazzock 1,010]

8 minutes ago, hertfordyellow said:

We spent 25 million net, 15 million was obligatory signings of loan players. It’s a drop in the ocean for premiership teams. Che Adams cost 17 million and he’s their 10th biggest signing. Fulham spent 110 million net and got relegated.

So, do you think he should be given more time?  If so why?

We've had two promotions, two pathetic attempts to stay up, he's a fish out of water.

[Midlands Yellow 4,682]

2 minutes ago, First Wazzock said:

So, do you think he should be given more time?  If so why?

We've had two promotions, two pathetic attempts to stay up, he's a fish out of water.

Hold fire please, some of the regimes biggest supporters on here are yet to have their say tonight. Let’s take a breath, restock and look at the next 3 matches. 

[PurpleCanary 6,378]

13 minutes ago, First Wazzock said:

Really?

He spent one of the biggest figures in Europe last summer, and still hasn't 'got' what we need.

The arrogance of not wanting to sign another contract with us, due to the fact he expected to be at a bigger club has now come home to roost. I wouldn't believe his own hype.

Yes, I believe he deserves another chance. The recruitment last summer was flawed, but any sporting director we have is limited when it comes to building a squad for the Premier League by our very low wage ceiling.

[JB 138]

52 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said:

No, we got a gun. Except it's been bought on Wish and it was named gunn.

We got the gun, but opted to blow our own brains out with it instead. 

[hertfordyellow 462]

5 minutes ago, First Wazzock said:

So, do you think he should be given more time?  If so why?

We've had two promotions, two pathetic attempts to stay up, he's a fish out of water.

Because he has achieved a lot here. I like how you have glossed over the promotions like they mean nothing. He has transformed the infrastructure of the club. He is also not solely responsible for transfers, a whole host of people are involved in recruitment.

There needs To be a review of the process as it’s been inconsistent but I think Webber still has a lot to offer to that process.

[percy varco 253]

Huddersfield Norwich Norwich. 
Webber is lost in the Prem. A legend in his own mind

[KeiranShikari 1,524]

Just now, percy varco said:

Huddersfield Norwich Norwich. 
Webber is lost in the Prem. A legend in his own mind

Harsh to give him the Hudds relegation (if that's what you're doing) as he was here before they were promoted.

[Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 4,615]

1 minute ago, percy varco said:

Huddersfield Norwich Norwich. 
Webber is lost in the Prem. A legend in his own mind

Webber left Huddersfield before they were even promoted, so cannot be praised for their survival in the first season or blamed for subsequent capitulation.

[Kenny Foggo 1,193]

29 minutes ago, hertfordyellow said:

We spent 25 million net, 15 million was obligatory signings of loan players. It’s a drop in the ocean for premiership teams. Che Adams cost 17 million and he’s their 10th biggest signing. Fulham spent 110 million net and got relegated.

Yes lets not bother... pointless and I no longer give a fxxk

[First Wazzock 1,010]

1 minute ago, hertfordyellow said:

Because he has achieved a lot here. I like how you have glossed over the promotions like they mean nothing. He has transformed the infrastructure of the club. He is also not solely responsible for transfers, a whole host of people are involved in recruitment.

There needs To be a review of the process as it’s been inconsistent but I think Webber still has a lot to offer to that process.

I accept what you say, but the problem as I see it is that although he may have set the groundwork in place for the future we don't have the luxury of time. Every time we get relegated there is no guarantee we will go back up again, due to the massive turnover that relegation brings.

[Clever Farke 75]

We did well to only lose 2-0. Still I think Smith is playing a blinder with this squad he has. Interesting to see how he’s is managing to kind of keep us in games despite our obvious horrendous shortcomings. Honestly, with a certain previous manager I dread to think what the results of the last 3 games would’ve been.  
Keep Deano for next year and we’ll be all right.
 

[First Wazzock 1,010]

Just now, Clever Farke said:

We did well to only lose 2-0. Still I think Smith is playing a blinder with this squad he has. Interesting to see how he’s is managing to kind of keep us in games despite our obvious horrendous shortcomings. Honestly, with a certain previous manager I dread to think what the results of the last 3 games would’ve been.  
Keep Deano for next year and we’ll be all right.
 

Totally agree.

If S&S were to leave in the summer we could be back to square one, but they certainly seem to be getting more out of the squad than Farke could

[Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 4,615]

35 minutes ago, hertfordyellow said:

We spent 25 million net, 15 million was obligatory signings of loan players. It’s a drop in the ocean for premiership teams. Che Adams cost 17 million and he’s their 10th biggest signing. Fulham spent 110 million net and got relegated.

 

31 minutes ago, hertfordyellow said:

Not net he didn’t, not even close. And it’s wages that generally dwarf fees. There will be teams that spent less than us on fees but would have committed to much higher overall amounts when wages are considered.

 

10 minutes ago, hertfordyellow said:

Because he has achieved a lot here. I like how you have glossed over the promotions like they mean nothing. He has transformed the infrastructure of the club. He is also not solely responsible for transfers, a whole host of people are involved in recruitment.

There needs To be a review of the process as it’s been inconsistent but I think Webber still has a lot to offer to that process.

Spot on. 

Webber could've used the Buendia money better and I did point that out at the time, but ultimately the biggest contributory factor to performance in professional football is the wage bill, not transfer fees, and I'd imagine we're in the bottom two for that along with Brentford. 

He could've done better, but if we end the season 17th then we've punched above our weight, and even if we go down, we're still miles better off than we were when he came in. 

He does need to tone down the arrogance though; I think he'd get given a bit more slack if he didn't come across that way so often. 

Edited February 25, 2022 by Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man

[hertfordyellow 462]

2 minutes ago, First Wazzock said:

I accept what you say, but the problem as I see it is that although he may have set the groundwork in place for the future we don't have the luxury of time. Every time we get relegated there is no guarantee we will go back up again, due to the massive turnover that relegation brings.

By building sound infrastructure we have a good chance of promotion each time over the next decade. The clubs in good hands.

[hertfordyellow 462]

6 minutes ago, Kenny Foggo said:

Yes lets not bother... pointless and I no longer give a fxxk

That’s the spirit

[SwearyCanary 1,340]

I’m not going to suggest I am a fanatical supporter of ‘the Webber regime’ but we have to be objective here. 
Financial stability achieved and not at the cost of success in winning promotions playing nice football. 
Did not shirk responsibility last relegation, said to blame him and took us up by keeping a number of assets that could’ve been sold. That was wise and good holding of nerve. 
Did not invest well this summer on reflection for this level, but Rashica looks good and others still have some potential, although not huge premier league potential at this stage clearly. 
Attracts players to a relatively small, rural, lacking much history of success and unfashionable location (although I love it) on ‘low’ wages and without the funds to spend big on outlay. That limits his options immensely without the bottomless pit of investment we know other clubs have. 
Brentford were lauded as being our equivalent financially and ‘look how well they’ve done compared to us’. I’d urge those people to look again in a few weeks to see what the situation is then. 
Webber was decisive in getting rid of DF who I would give the key of the city to, but must admit has done well to bring in a highly rated manager and coach who have undoubtedly improved our form - not much but a bit. This shows some ambition when he could’ve played it safe.
He hasn’t courted other jobs when his stock was high and did stick around in spite of not signing long term contract. He is a person entitled to keep his options open should an opportunity arise in a business which is VERY fickle. Much like the players themselves, tribalism of commitment is a very rare thing and it’s not realistic to expect an employee to feel as close to our club as we do. 
Another relegation is not good enough for sure, but does he really have the financial resources to stay up anyway, unless by some fluke and short term run like Lambert managed? 
The landscape has changed and he objectively does very well in a landscape of old, as was his remit when brought in. In the absence of a billionaire but ethically sound new owner/investor, I for one don’t want to see a knee jerk response to an impossible problem when we know that the man there can do a job. I’d say he has still earned the right for one more crack at it next year, because at least his way still leaves us with some soul, identity and a model fit for resilience in a world of football clubs being toys. 
I hate the sound bite but we are a top 26 club, and all things considered that’s ok isn’t it? 

In closing, it’s never nice to be the whipping boys, some of our signings aren’t great and we are going down, which makes me miserable now and then. But I don’t see what other outcome the Webber out crew expect and until they offer some kind of improved exit strategy that’ll be in any way likely to change this clubs long term future for the better, I still need convincing. 
 

that’s me anyway 

Sweary 

[shefcanary 2,950]

Yeah, he can get us out of the Championship (and yes, next season we will walk it again - you read it here first), but boy he has a lot to do to make sure we have more weapons for the EPL the season after.  He hasn't learnt yet!  CDM & goal scored a prerogative, I hear you say!

[Pyro Pete 2,353]

Webber has shown he can assemble a successful Championship squad.

Not so much in the Premier League, where to a certain extent a club like Norwich need to overachieve to stay up

[Dr Greenthumb 792]

8 hours ago, Hucks6 said:

Webber and his stupid wife Zoe Ward think they are untouchable, Delia do the right to thing get rid

Delia gets rid and then we are stuck with Neil Adam’s (cheap alternative). 
The problem isn’t just Webber.

It’s the owners that have the equivalent of a league 2 wealth. 
 

Football keeps growing and getting richer. Our owners don’t and honestly, this family rubbish that they (allegedly) bring to the table is not washing with me

[City 2nd 193]

Not one player purchased by Webber has been bought with the playing squad in mind. More so for the sell on value. That’s how this once great club now operates!

[City 2nd 193]

6 hours ago, shefcanary said:

Yeah, he can get us out of the Championship (and yes, next season we will walk it again - you read it here first), but boy he has a lot to do to make sure we have more weapons for the EPL the season after.  He hasn't learnt yet!  CDM & goal scored a prerogative, I hear you say!

NCFC may just find themselves relegated yet again and managerless soon.  They will certainly not walk the championship!