TeemuVanBasten 3,327 Posted March 31, 2021 Could the reason we gave up on this fella so quickly be the realisation that the new work permit rules would actually render it impossible for us to make him permanent? A fresh application needs to be made, and he would fail. I felt it was harsh to bomb him out and thought he looked like he had potential, but may explain why we brought in a current Greek international in January as an alternative? Really unlucky for the chap if that is the reason? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haus 259 Posted March 31, 2021 If hes living here already and was before the 31st December he qualifies for presettlement, that means you can work here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Move Klose 303 Posted March 31, 2021 13 minutes ago, TeemuVanBasten said: Could the reason we gave up on this fella so quickly be the realisation that the new work permit rules would actually render it impossible for us to make him permanent? A fresh application needs to be made, and he would fail. I felt it was harsh to bomb him out and thought he looked like he had potential, but may explain why we brought in a current Greek international in January as an alternative? Really unlucky for the chap if that is the reason? Or maybe Giannoulis was brought in because hes a much better player. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaberry2 550 Posted March 31, 2021 I dont think this is actually that true tbh. I think Quintilla has a lot to offer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YellowSubmarine 39 Posted March 31, 2021 1 hour ago, TeemuVanBasten said: Could the reason we gave up on this fella so quickly be the realisation that the new work permit rules would actually render it impossible for us to make him permanent? A fresh application needs to be made, and he would fail. I felt it was harsh to bomb him out and thought he looked like he had potential, but may explain why we brought in a current Greek international in January as an alternative? Really unlucky for the chap if that is the reason? The new GBE rules don’t count as he was brought in under the old regulations and already in the country. He needs to play 50% game time to trigger his option in the summer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirku 1,332 Posted March 31, 2021 They realised he wasn't good enough and don't want to trigger the obligation to buy. As others have pointed out, the new rules do not apply to those already here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orly 277 Posted March 31, 2021 Certainly felt very cutthroat, so difficult not to feel some sympathy for him. But by the same token, I was critical of the nicey-nicey approach to 'new bumper contracts for all' upon promotion last time, so I can't have it both ways. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,327 Posted March 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Move Klose said: Or maybe Giannoulis was brought in because hes a much better player. 1 hour ago, jaberry2 said: I dont think this is actually that true tbh. I think Quintilla has a lot to offer. Personally I'd be delighted if we signed them both, if they felt that McCallum wasn't going to be good enough. Although hopefully they do rate McCallum. Just that Farke doesn't seem to rate Xavi at all. He did look like he needed a bit of work defensively, but the lad can definitely play and is the best corner taker I've ever seen for us! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,820 Posted March 31, 2021 The new rules wouldn't have been relevant for him as the permanent contracts for loan-to-buy deals are done when the loan is signed, so the reason must be that they didn't fancy him enough to sign him which would've become obligatory if he played in 50% of our league games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGunnShow 5,940 Posted March 31, 2021 Worth mentioning that Quintilla was struggling with that hip injury as well - and Sorensen had stepped in showing a level of performance that belied his makeshift status. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaberry2 550 Posted April 1, 2021 Yes Sorensen did well. But I don't want him or any other players being forced to fill in an unrecognised position anymore. It just simply shouldn't be the case, with various options in place should injuries occur. Would should have adequate squad depth all over and if not recall options on loan agreements, should the issue arise. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,606 Posted April 1, 2021 18 hours ago, TeemuVanBasten said: Just that Farke doesn't seem to rate Xavi at all. That is my general takeaway. He was left out even when back to fitness for a makeshift midfielder and then the club clearly went out of the way to upgrade the position in Jan. That might be because Farke doesn't trust his ability to stay fit but I never got the impression he was sold on him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Holt 522 Posted April 1, 2021 Every chance he'll play tomorrow if Sorensen gets a gig in midfield, which is what I expect will happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AJ 1,219 Posted April 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, Captain Holt said: Every chance he'll play tomorrow if Sorensen gets a gig in midfield, which is what I expect will happen. I doubt it, Dimi will play there, and if he isn't up to it Sorsensen will play. Quintilla won't play for us again - he's not even been in the squad for the past 6 games... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,327 Posted April 1, 2021 1 hour ago, AJ said: I doubt it, Dimi will play there, and if he isn't up to it Sorsensen will play. Quintilla won't play for us again - he's not even been in the squad for the past 6 games... But the person you responded to just said that Xavi will play if Sorenson gets a gig in midfield. Should imagine it will be Tettey in midfield though, Sorenson left back? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,606 Posted April 1, 2021 Wouldn't shock me if we see Mumba at left back before we see Xavi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rock bus 851 Posted April 1, 2021 With the injury to Zimmerman, if we dont see Quintilla tomorrow I dont think we'll ever see him in a Norwich shirt again! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tetteys Jig 830 Posted April 1, 2021 Perhaps this could be where he comes in to do a job? Supposedly is one that "can fill in" at centre back as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AJ 1,219 Posted April 1, 2021 1 hour ago, TeemuVanBasten said: But the person you responded to just said that Xavi will play if Sorenson gets a gig in midfield. Should imagine it will be Tettey in midfield though, Sorenson left back? Yeah, I meant if Dimi can't play Sorensen would play there instead of midfield. Reckon we'll see Tetts either at CB or DM now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,327 Posted April 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, AJ said: Yeah, I meant if Dimi can't play Sorensen would play there instead of midfield. Reckon we'll see Tetts either at CB or DM now What if its Tettey at DM and Sorenson at centre back? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Moss 2,165 Posted April 1, 2021 Reckon with Giannoulis probably sleeping as we speak, the back line tomorrow could look something like this - Aarons, Hanley, Sorensen, Quintilla. But that said I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Max gets the game off too, and Mumba comes in at RB. We do have options at least so am personally not so worried. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaberry2 550 Posted April 1, 2021 Players should be prepared to go the extra distance for this game. They always knew the position. Perhaps we wont see too many changes other than for injuries, but look at taking off tired legs if theyre showing early in the second half. That could be quite a few players potentially, but with the sub rule we should be fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1902 1,167 Posted April 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, jaberry2 said: Players should be prepared to go the extra distance for this game. They always knew the position. Perhaps we wont see too many changes other than for injuries, but look at taking off tired legs if theyre showing early in the second half. That could be quite a few players potentially, but with the sub rule we should be fine. Why? It's not worth risking injuries to players for a game we are unlikely to be at our best in when substantially clear of 3rd place. It's going to take a substantial run of rubbish results for us to fail to be promoted, the single most likely way that happens is through injuries destroying the balance of the team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AJ 1,219 Posted April 1, 2021 2 hours ago, TeemuVanBasten said: What if its Tettey at DM and Sorenson at centre back? I just can't imagine a scenario where Quintilla plays. If Tetts is in midfield, Sorensen at CB then Dimi will play LB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 5,140 Posted April 1, 2021 12 hours ago, jaberry2 said: Yes Sorensen did well. But I don't want him or any other players being forced to fill in an unrecognised position anymore. It just simply shouldn't be the case, with various options in place should injuries occur. Would should have adequate squad depth all over and if not recall options on loan agreements, should the issue arise. Just because you would like something, that doesn’t make it possible. I’d like to win big on the lottery on Saturday, but it’s highly unlikely. If we don’t have “adequate squad depth” (and I think we probably do), then that’s because we either didn’t have the funds, or couldn’t attract a suitable player who would be prepared to potentially play second fiddle all season and never play a competitive game. And we don’t have recall options on loan agreements because the loaning club would not be interested in making a player part of their plans for the season but with the risk of having them whipped away without warning at any point. So fewer players on loan and no development of our next set of potential first team members. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,327 Posted April 2, 2021 20 hours ago, AJ said: I just can't imagine a scenario where Quintilla plays. If Tetts is in midfield, Sorensen at CB then Dimi will play LB Well he's playing! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeymarSmith 130 Posted April 2, 2021 DF must have doubts, I thought he was a sick note but obviously not if he is playing? Who would be tempted to get him end of season (although I think it's an obligation to buy after a certain number of games?) Think he was a couple million? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,327 Posted April 2, 2021 24 minutes ago, NeymarSmith said: Who would be tempted to get him end of season Only if they don't think McCallum will make the grade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeymarSmith 130 Posted April 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, TeemuVanBasten said: Only if they don't think McCallum will make the grade. Ah yes, forgot about him! Maybe see if they fancy Bali on loan next year, I'm not complaining about him (a bit light on the defensive side so far), but I think he would really benefit for a full season of playing regularly prior to max inevitably leaving! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vos 155 Posted April 2, 2021 Have to say he is having a good game. Far more positive and quicker in going forward than the Greek guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites