New Tory Leader

[horsefly 4,303]

26 minutes ago, Herman said:

Bozo the Bludger.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9606217/Butler-smuggled-27-000-organic-takeaways-No-10-paid-wife-Tory-donor.html

Jesus! The degrading levels of corruption to which that man will stoop for personal gain are beyond belief. And today we had him pontificating about deception at the BBC. And therein lies a major problem; when your country's PM is so blatantly corrupt he loses all authority in the moral leadership essential to the head of government.

[Herman 9,780]

Do you want some more FFS! news? Of course you do.

 

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

6 hours ago, Herman said:

Do you want some more FFS! news? Of course you do.

 

This was reported last year but of course much of the British public didn't see it as anything outrageous as they thought he might be frightened of snakes.

[Rock The Boat 1,332]

On 22/05/2021 at 19:56, keelansgrandad said:

I mentioned Corbyn because of the stupidity of bringing him in to it. And now you have just played your Joker🃏🃏

It's stupid bringing Corbyn into anything, anytime given how useless he is. Even when he was Leader of the (not very bright) Opposition.

[Herman 9,780]

I think this pretty much sums up things.

 

[Foxy2600 301]

I think Golden Broon sold the family 'Gold'.....

[Herman 9,780]

Thatch sold all our land. 

[horsefly 4,303]

Johnson, Frost, Truss, and co, simply sold out.

[Rock The Boat 1,332]

4 hours ago, Herman said:

Thatch sold all our land. 

Last time I looked the land is still there.

[horsefly 4,303]

An independent inquiry finds Johnson responsible for spreading Islamaphobia in the Tory party. Yet still he refuses to apologise for his racist comments:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/boris-johnson-s-burqa-comments-gave-impression-tories-insensitive-to-muslim-communities-review-finds/ar-AAKmhf6?ocid=msedgntp

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

3 hours ago, horsefly said:

An independent inquiry finds Johnson responsible for spreading Islamaphobia in the Tory party. Yet still he refuses to apologise for his racist comments:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/boris-johnson-s-burqa-comments-gave-impression-tories-insensitive-to-muslim-communities-review-finds/ar-AAKmhf6?ocid=msedgntp

It will be brushed aside because Labour's hatred of Jews is a much more serious problem and Tories don't mean it. They are just jokes.

[Herman 9,780]

He is a complete ****.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-said-covid-only-24184724

Edited May 25, 2021 by Herman

[Rock The Boat 1,332]

11 hours ago, horsefly said:

An independent inquiry finds Johnson responsible for spreading Islamaphobia in the Tory party. Yet still he refuses to apologise for his racist comments:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/boris-johnson-s-burqa-comments-gave-impression-tories-insensitive-to-muslim-communities-review-finds/ar-AAKmhf6?ocid=msedgntp

The report to which you refer said his comments gave an impression of being insensitive, not racist. In other words, someone might get offended by what Bojo said.

If you were not a liar you would quote from the report where it explicitly states there is no discrimination.

"No evidence was found to support the suggestion that the party had collectively or systematically failed any particular community or group in its processes for dealing with complaints relating to protected characteristics, including race, religion or belief, or specifically Islam. We found no attitudes or behaviours within the complaints process or relating to the imposition of sanctions by the party that were discriminatory against any group or individual possessing a protected characteristic, including those with the protected characteristic of being Muslim.

There was widespread agreement that Islam should not be conflated with Islamism; the former being described as a faith with over a billion peaceful adherents worldwide, and the latter is typically defined as a religio-political ideology that aspires towards an Islamic state or form of government, which can be achieved through violent and non-violent means. Everyone we interviewed agreed that the actions of Islamists should not be used to stereotype Muslims or discriminate against them."

There are only two political parties that have been found to be guilty of systemic racism and anti-semitism by the Equality and Human Rights Commission - BNP and the Labour Party, one of which you support.

Edited May 25, 2021 by Rock The Boat

[Herman 9,780]

To be honest the report is a vote winner for the tories. Islamophobic party = +5 points in the polls.

[Well b back 3,221]

Blimey Cummings has government documents, proving they lied and in addition kept every single what’s app message. When he says he said something he is actually reading from whats app group he kept every chat. 

Pretty damming so far but presumably it will just be pushed under the carpet, the white board actually shows the daily deaths with their initial plan.

[Well b back 3,221]

He has the Cobra meeting papers

[sonyc 5,529]

10 minutes ago, Well b back said:

Blimey Cummings has government documents, proving they lied and in addition kept every single what’s app message. When he says he said something he is actually reading from whats app group he kept every chat. 

Pretty damming so far but presumably it will just be pushed under the carpet, the white board actually shows the daily deaths with their initial plan.

Fairly sure the things he says have truth in them, or will point to the chaos around in government at the time (just look back on the Covid discussions and football back in January / February 2020 on this very message board...lots of discussion about on her immunity and anger). But will it matter or change public opinion any more? Doubt it personally. This graphic indicates as much too. No-one trusts Cummings or Johnson.

 

Edited May 26, 2021 by sonyc

[Well b back 3,221]

Omg he was more interested in an argument about his girlfriends dog, than he was about bombing Iraq or protecting U.K. citizens from COVID. Wouldn’t have believed a word he said but he is showing the messages and meeting papers. I am surprised it’s not being stopped due to National Security.

No bleeping for the language.

[Well b back 3,221]

There you go it’s Cummings fault as he had more power than Johnson ( I can’t remember voting for Cummings ).

They wanted chicken pox parties. It’s not that there was a right or wrong, it’s more the lies, but that will be brushed over.

[Well b back 3,221]

Cummings tells an extraordinary story. 

He says on the morning of 12 March, the "national security people came in" and said "Trump wants us to join a bombing campaign in the Middle East tonight".

He says this "totally derailed" meetings on coronavirus and household quarantines. 

He says, at the same time, "the prime minister's girlfriend was going completely crackers" over having the No 10 press office deal with stories in the press about the Downing Street dog.

Part of the building was talking about bombing Iraq, part was talking about household restrictions, and "the prime minister's girlfriend was going completely crackers about something trivial," he states.

[kirku 1,334]

Many of us knew how terribly it was handled and how hugely unsuited Johnson and the cabinet were, these revelations should be the end of them - but they won't be.

Unfortunately, I think James O'Brien has nailed this one: I wonder whether Cummings is about to discover just how effectively he groomed the population into believing that Boris Johnson is a good egg...

Edited May 26, 2021 by kirku

[Well b back 3,221]

Hancock should have been fired 15 - 20 times for gross incompetence. Suggestions that maybe there should be corporate manslaughter charges, Cummings can’t comment but happy to provide documents.

[kirku 1,334]

"Trump had the CIA flying around trying gazump everyone on PPE"

He's now picking apart Hancock's lies

[Well b back 3,221]

Happy for PPE to be delivered in July lol.

wow just asked ‘ you have accused Hancock of lying that is very serious can you prove it ‘ he is wheeling out the evidence. He has official minutes. Chairman has just said he wants written evidence to consider as this is so serious.

[Well b back 3,221]

1 minute ago, kirku said:

"Trump had the CIA flying around trying gazump everyone on PPE"

He's now picking apart Hancock's lies

Threatening criminal charges and corporate manslaughter if Cummings can prove it and clearly he can.

Told Hancock best he f***** off out of the cabinet meeting and start organising getting some PPE delivered before July.

[Well b back 3,221]

Blimey that NHS scenario based on Johnson’s and Hancock’s plan is horrendous.

[Well b back 3,221]

He was playing to the media ( Johnson ), those with the capability ignored, whilst I was left to run the things and I am not smart.

[kirku 1,334]

Any political system that offers the choice of Boris Johnson and Jeremy Corbyn "has gone badly wrong", says Cummings

He adds that it was "crackers" that both he and Johnson were in roles of power during the pandemic

"Lions led by donkeys again and again"

[Well b back 3,221]

We’ve already heard a flavour of Dominic Cummings’ criticism of Boris Johnson – saying, extraordinarily, because of the PM’s apparently lax attitude to Covid, that he wasn’t involved in key emergency meetings early on in 2020. 

Boris Johnson likened Covid-19 to Swine Flu and a scare story, according to Cummings – and would say things like he wanted to be injected with the virus live on TV to prove it wasn’t dangerous.

He’s also mentioned the PM’s holiday in February 2020 – clearly accusing the prime minister of not taking Covid seriously enough at what was a crucial time in the early days of the pandemic.

But interestingly the PM isn’t being singled out for blame - Cummings has repeatedly described ‘groupthink’, a lack of planning, how systems were not in place for dealing with this sort of pandemic, false assumptions and the dawning realisation that the situation was far worse than anyone had realised.

He said the then Cabinet Secretary Mark Sedwill wanted to advocate Covid ‘chicken-pox parties’ so more people could catch the virus.

And Cummings pulled no punches in his criticism of the Health Secretary Matt Hancock, saying he told the Prime Minister repeatedly that he should have been fired and that his department was overwhelmed.

[sonyc 5,529]

Whatever is thought of Cummings' evidence today...

I have to say that Hancock's words "we've thrown a protective ring around care homes" is one of those sentences that will forever live in the mind, such a callousness and disrespect in those words.

Then to see him talk up his 'Care' and 'NHS' badges was a surreal moment in 2020.

Hancock is worthy, in this poster's mind anyway, of the grossest contempt.