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[Yellow Fever 3,818]

3 hours ago, ricardo said:

Every silver lining has a cloud.😉

Actually Ricardo you've called it 'over' before only for another wave to return.

Although I'm very optimistic we will eventually beat/control it this autumn barring some vaccine escaping variant I don't wish to call it over until it is without extenuating circumstances (i.e. normal life, schools back) - and that's not yet. Hence I remain cautious (realistic) at present but hopeful a last autumn wave will be manageable.

[Aggy 762]

54 minutes ago, Yellow Fever said:

Actually Ricardo you've called it 'over' before only for another wave to return.

Although I'm very optimistic we will eventually beat/control it this autumn barring some vaccine escaping variant I don't wish to call it over until it is without extenuating circumstances (i.e. normal life, schools back) - and that's not yet. Hence I remain cautious (realistic) at present but hopeful a last autumn wave will be manageable.

Isn’t going to be “last” though - it’s going to be here probably forever, just like lots of other things.

[Van wink 2,994]

1 hour ago, ricardo said:

Admission figures encouraging again today

[sonyc 5,541]

1 hour ago, Yellow Fever said:

Actually Ricardo you've called it 'over' before only for another wave to return.

Although I'm very optimistic we will eventually beat/control it this autumn barring some vaccine escaping variant I don't wish to call it over until it is without extenuating circumstances (i.e. normal life, schools back) - and that's not yet. Hence I remain cautious (realistic) at present but hopeful a last autumn wave will be manageable.

I've never at any stage thought it was over. Nor do I think we will have one other biggish wave to manage. One senior nurse (on Twitter) who has worked on Covid in  ICU throughout believes (with the darkest humour....guess it's her way of coping) that C19 is like a 10 level game that will probably last a decade in terms of causing problems. Her optimistic view is that we might be at Level 6. 

So, this will run and run. I'm sure you'll agree too though.

Its a question of management so that it becomes a problem like many other causes of mortality, diseases for which we can work out solutions.  I'm very hopeful given the advances in vaccines and treatments, escalated globally through this pandemic, that we can treat this. Just hope the turning point comes in 2022 not years later.

Edited August 4, 2021 by sonyc

[Well b back 3,269]

3 hours ago, keelansgrandad said:

Wonder if they will need their parents permission?

They won’t I can confirm.

[Foxy2600 305]

I suppose we can hope - long as he doesn't need the NHS for a full recovery - wish I could vote for Scottish Independence and the export idiots like this.

 

[ricardo 7,396]

National

30,215 - 86  North and West still declining, South and East now peaking.

rate of Decrease 10.4% (7 days)

 

Local

Norwich infection rate     407.7   rising for fifth day after falling for six, probably near peak in Norwich

(18 patients in N&N  ( Updated today))

Vax 1st Dose      33,334                88.7% done                 Norwich numbers   76.1% 2nd Dose     165,669              73.5% done                                               57.7%   In Hospital  (now dropping sharply) 04-08-2021                   5,686 03-08-2021 5,908 02-08-2021 6,130 01-08-2021 5,905 31-07-2021 5,891 30-07-2021 5,957 29-07-2021 5,930

[It's Character Forming 1,164]

19 minutes ago, ricardo said:

National

30,215 - 86  North and West still declining, South and East now peaking.

rate of Decrease 10.4% (7 days)

 

Local

Norwich infection rate     407.7   rising for fifth day after falling for six, probably near peak in Norwich

(18 patients in N&N  ( Updated today))

Vax 1st Dose      33,334                88.7% done                 Norwich numbers   76.1% 2nd Dose     165,669              73.5% done                                               57.7%   In Hospital  (now dropping sharply) 04-08-2021                   5,686 03-08-2021 5,908 02-08-2021 6,130 01-08-2021 5,905 31-07-2021 5,891 30-07-2021 5,957 29-07-2021 5,930

I think this is the first proper fall in numbers in hospital (after the numbers plateaued for a while) which is brilliant to see, not just as an indicator that we're going in the right direction, but also of course that's fewer severely ill people.

 

As for the daily numbers, it's always been the week on week comparisons that are important, we're all familiar with the weekly cycle of reporting by now.  If you'd have offered me these numbers on July 19th I'd have bitten your hand off !

 

Looking forward to the ONS numbers tomorrow with interest.

[ricardo 7,396]

5 minutes ago, It's Character Forming said:

I think this is the first proper fall in numbers in hospital (after the numbers plateaued for a while) which is brilliant to see, not just as an indicator that we're going in the right direction, but also of course that's fewer severely ill people.

 

As for the daily numbers, it's always been the week on week comparisons that are important, we're all familiar with the weekly cycle of reporting by now.  If you'd have offered me these numbers on July 19th I'd have bitten your hand off !

 

Looking forward to the ONS numbers tomorrow with interest.

Scotland were a couple of weeks ahead of us and they have slowly levelled off in the past 14 days. I expect any decline will be quite gradual over the coming weeks.

[Van wink 2,994]

31 minutes ago, It's Character Forming said:

 

 

Looking forward to the ONS numbers tomorrow with interest.

So is Tim Spectre 😉

[Well b back 3,269]

ONS figures now 1 in 80.

[Canary Wundaboy 1,359]

Got my 2nd pfizer jab later today, hoping the after-effects aren't too bad as I'm playing golf on Sunday...

[ricardo 7,396]

ZOE still falling steadily.

[Herman 9,819]

31 minutes ago, ricardo said:

ZOE still falling steadily.

Drunk again, the old soak. 

[nevermind, neoliberalism has had it 159]

you know her well, Herman?

[ricardo 7,396]

National

31,808 - 92

rate of Decrease 6.2% (7 days)

 

Local

Norwich infection rate     425.5   rising for sixth day after falling for six, probably near peak in Norwich

(18 patients in N&N  ( Updated today))

Vax 1st Dose      35,500                88.8% done                 Norwich numbers   76.1% 2nd Dose     172,692              73.8% done                                               58.1% In Hospital 05-08-2021                5,631 04-08-2021 5,694 03-08-2021 5,918 02-08-2021 6,139 01-08-2021 5,912 31-07-2021 5,896 30-07-2021 5,961

Edited August 6, 2021 by ricardo

[sonyc 5,541]

As a few have lamented on here, the vaccination rate has dropped off significantly these last two months. And as  @Well b backintimated  previously some other countries have stolen a march on the UK. This article states that EU countries had a "dire" start but have since caught up and overtaken us because of their "tough" incentives and messaging. Here though we have baulked at such harder messages and have preferred a softly softly approach.

A higher rate of vaccination amongst younger people would have lowered the number of new infections but there is a sense too that maybe the 'plan' is to achieve herd immunity through natural infections in the younger age cohort groups?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/06/six-eu-states-overtake-uk-covid-vaccination-britain-rollout-slows

Perhaps the booster programme will mark a refresh?... (reading it is likely to be Pfizer - again something mentioned on the thread a few months ago).

[ricardo 7,396]

 

Flat or slowly falling in most age groups.

[ricardo 7,396]

ZOE down another 5% today. 

Official numbers have been much flatter.

[ricardo 7,396]

National

28,612 - 103

rate of Decrease 2.2% (7 days)

Still out of synch with ZOE

 

Local

Norwich infection rate     457.2   rising for seventh day after falling for six, probably near peak in Norwich

(18 patients in N&N  ( Updated yesterday))

Vax 1st Dose      35,665                88.9% done                 Norwich numbers   76.2% 2nd Dose     162,827              74.1% done                                               58.5%

[It's Character Forming 1,164]

This thread is getting a bit like the forum on a Saturday night after City have won!

[Herman 9,819]

Sadly ironic that a thread about covid is less depressing than Jim Smith and DCB's posts.😀

[How I Wrote Elastic Man 1,189]

I don't know how true this is, but I have seen it reported by more than one source 

https://www.indy100.com/news/anti-vaxxers-horse-dewormer-covid-b1898245?utm_content=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1628351091

This is funny and sad in equal measures

[ricardo 7,396]

National

27,429 - 39

rate of Increase 1.9% (7 days)

 

Local

Norwich infection rate     447.3   first drop in 7 days, seems to have peaked

(18 patients in N&N  ( no update))

Vax 1st Dose      37,990                88.9% done                 Norwich numbers   76.2% 2nd Dose     213,583              74.5% done                                                    59.1% In Hospital (no update) 05-08-2021                 5,631 04-08-2021 5,694 03-08-2021 5,918 02-08-2021 6,139 01-08-2021 5,912 31-07-2021 5,896

[ricardo 7,396]

ZOE now static again

42k-44k  region for last four days

[king canary 7,654]

Did I see correctly that Piers Corbyn and his peculiar bunch of bellends are going to be protesting outside the Murderers tomorrow?

[ricardo 7,396]

National

25,161 - 37

rate of Increase 5.2% (7 days)

looks like remaining bumpy for the next few days

 

Local

Norwich infection rate     441.7   second drop in last7 days, seems to have peaked

(18 patients in N&N  ( no update))

Vax 1st Dose      22,843                89% done                 Norwich numbers   76.3% 2nd Dose     122,070              74.8% done                                                    59.2% In Hospital ( numbers slowly decling) 06-08-2021           5,608 05-08-2021 5,645 04-08-2021 5,701 03-08-2021 5,927 02-08-2021 6,146 01-08-2021 5,918 31-07-2021 5,901

[Van wink 2,994]

1 hour ago, king canary said:

Did I see correctly that Piers Corbyn and his peculiar bunch of bellends are going to be protesting outside the Murderers tomorrow?

It runs in his family sadly. 

[A Load of Squit 5,209]

12 minutes ago, Van wink said:

It runs in his family sadly. 

 

[A Load of Squit 5,209]

Poor woman, she must be running out of things she's sh!t at.