lappinitup 629 Posted October 9, 2015 Almost fit and back playing in the first team at Hull in the next couple of weeks. Good news. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank shoots Skyler 2,094 Posted October 10, 2015 1/10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katie Borkins 1 Posted October 10, 2015 Ooh you tinker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,826 Posted October 10, 2015 It''s a fair point, although it will be more noteworthy once he actually starts playing. Now back in the championship, it will be interesting to see how he does, because although at Leeds in the championship he was made captain and voted players''s player of the season, Leeds results were not that great. Ok in the first season - but Snodgrass only played a limited part in that through suspensions and injuries. The second season, a strong looking squad, plenty of quality in it, championship specialist Warnock in charge, but finished 5th from bottom. The clamour for his tranfer to us - a saga that went on and on - meant that I guess quite a few of us looked into his record, me included - and the picture that emerged was not that great - a trier, some unothodox ability, but a player that ultimately frustrates. As a result, by the time he was actually transferrd to us, I didn''t want him, as it was clear he was not going to be anything other than frustrating to watch - some excellent stuff, but counter balanced by too much ineffective play and detrimental to team performances. That said, I hope he is back playing for Hull and finds his form. Hopefully his lay off will have made him think about how to get the best from himself, cut out the histrionics and learn to bring the team more into matches, rather than try and do it all on his own. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 10,761 Posted October 10, 2015 Shame you''re completely wrong about him.Oh, and having family who are Leeds fans, they all rated Snoddy as comfortably their best and most exciting player.That you don''t like him is irrelevant to the fact he was our best player under that Houghton season and was Leeds best player for 2 years before that. Then, when we got relegated another Prem team was willing to pay 6 million for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,826 Posted October 10, 2015 Oh, in case anyone thinks me not wanting him was hindsight.....http://services.pinkun.com/forums/pinkun-forums/cs/forums/2672013/ShowPost.aspx Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 5,246 Posted October 10, 2015 Whoooooooooooosh ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 10,761 Posted October 10, 2015 Uhhhh but you also said, despite the fact you rated pilks and thought elliot Bennett could be our POTS (lol) you wanted Snodgrass in our starting eleven. ..http://services.pinkun.com/forums/pinkun-forums/cs/forums/2/2765799/ShowPost.aspx#2765799 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
morty 0 Posted October 10, 2015 I''ll just leave a "lol" here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katie Borkins 1 Posted October 10, 2015 It is a bit perverse that a man who championed Houghton and continually urged "positivity" from the safety of Cumbria had so little time or positivity for Robert Snodgrass, while those of us who attended those soul-sapping matches could see he was as frustrated by the tactical shackles Houghton had put in place as we were.Still, if we all had the same opinion then the world would be rather boring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norfolk Mustard 106 Posted October 10, 2015 It''s Hughton! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BroadstairsR 2,273 Posted October 10, 2015 In an indirect way we swapped Snoddy for Brady.I know who I would rather have in the team, as things stand today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,826 Posted October 10, 2015 [quote user="TIL 1010"]Whoooooooooooosh ![/quote]Really???? I''m not that stupid, I just didn''t think it was worth bothering with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,826 Posted October 10, 2015 [quote user="hogesar"]Uhhhh but you also said, despite the fact you rated pilks and thought elliot Bennett could be our POTS (lol) you wanted Snodgrass in our starting eleven. ..http://services.pinkun.com/forums/pinkun-forums/cs/forums/2/2765799/ShowPost.aspx#2765799[/quote]At that stage, at the start of the first Hughton season, Snodgrass was new to us and it only seemed sensible to put him in. The words "at the moment I''d prefer Snodgrass" reflect that more than anything. It was like "ok then let''s see what you''ve got". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norwich Chatter 0 Posted October 12, 2015 Always liked Snodgrass, but let''s be honest Redmond''s better. So, if it was a choice we certainly made the right call in getting rid of Snodgrass. Hope he comes back though and does well for Hull this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,902 Posted November 8, 2015 Good luck Snoddy! Tomorrow night''s the night.. Robert snodgrassVerified account @robsnodgrass7 9h9 hours ago After 15 month out and long hours of rehab I have my 1st game back tomorrow night for the development squad Retweets 456 Likes 2,096 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andyc24_uk 79 Posted November 11, 2015 Glad to see him fit and I wish him well; but not sad he''s no longer with us. Too selfish and had a bad attitude, always moaning about something instead of accepting his own mistakes. Has natural talent for sure but I don''t miss him one little bit, we have a better, more balanced attack these days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,826 Posted November 11, 2015 [quote user="andyc24_uk"]Glad to see him fit and I wish him well; but not sad he''s no longer with us. Too selfish and had a bad attitude, always moaning about something instead of accepting his own mistakes. Has natural talent for sure but I don''t miss him one little bit, we have a better, more balanced attack these days.[/quote]My sentiments exactly. I hope to see him play and that he may recapture his best form. Long lay offs like he has had won''t have helped his career on a physical level, but will almost surely have learned more about himself from the long recovery process. His focus was always on himself and that for me was a big turn off - but the long lay off and watching from the sidelines will hopefully have made him a little more aware of where he could improve his game, both on the field and in his mental approach. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The ghost of Michael Theoklitos 0 Posted November 11, 2015 [quote user="andyc24_uk"]Glad to see him fit and I wish him well; but not sad he''s no longer with us. Too selfish and had a bad attitude, always moaning about something instead of accepting his own mistakes. Has natural talent for sure but I don''t miss him one little bit, we have a better, more balanced attack these days.[/quote]It''s funny. One thing people complain about the modern footballer is that many just show up to collect a pay cheque and don''t show enough passion for the cause. Then - in my opinion - you get a footballer that shows all those pride and passion qualities and tries his guts out every minute - and he gets slatted by some as ''moaning'' and ''selfish''.I''ll never forget him having a go back at the Snake Pit that daye after they booed his corner. To me, it showed he cared, and was having a go on a day when it wasn''t working for him. I''d prefer that to someone who just takes it and sulks any day.I also think it''s good to mention that he was often spotted at midweek away games last year in the Championship when we played up north. He obviously still respects the club, or at the very lest many of the people still involved in it. He was even kind enough to have quick interviews at half-time on the BBC Norfolk commentary on the odd occasion.While I agree that he wouldn''t fit into our team now, and that we''ve moved on, I couldn''t disagree more on the other points. I''d prefer to have players of that attitude any day when compared to many others we''ve had over the last few years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,826 Posted November 11, 2015 [quote user="The ghost of Michael Theoklitos"]It''s funny. One thing people complain about the modern footballer is that many just show up to collect a pay cheque and don''t show enough passion for the cause. Then - in my opinion - you get a footballer that shows all those pride and passion qualities and tries his guts out every minute - and he gets slatted by some as ''moaning'' and ''selfish''.I''ll never forget him having a go back at the Snake Pit that daye after they booed his corner. To me, it showed he cared, and was having a go on a day when it wasn''t working for him. I''d prefer that to someone who just takes it and sulks any day.I also think it''s good to mention that he was often spotted at midweek away games last year in the Championship when we played up north. He obviously still respects the club, or at the very lest many of the people still involved in it. He was even kind enough to have quick interviews at half-time on the BBC Norfolk commentary on the odd occasion.While I agree that he wouldn''t fit into our team now, and that we''ve moved on, I couldn''t disagree more on the other points. I''d prefer to have players of that attitude any day when compared to many others we''ve had over the last few years.[/quote]No one doubted his passion and his trying hard, but the rest of your sentiments are similar to those sometimes used to back Russell Martin. Great guy, likes the club, kind, good interviews etc etc - but those are not traits that we should be juding him on as a footballer on the pitch. Martin is all those things - but should be judged on his performances too. Snoddy''s attitude while on the field, on the face of it a good one because he always seemed to wear his heart on his sleeve, so many times actually was counter to what was required for the team. We have watched time after time this season how early crosses stretch defences, but - and yes I know the Hootun arguments - we never got that from him. Never. And that from a wing player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy Canary 753 Posted November 11, 2015 I agree with much of what you say Ghost of MT.A good comparison could be made with Pilkington on the other wing, another player with undoubted talent. When the going got tough he would often disappear - the exact opposite to Snodgrass. Wouldn''t have either back now but much more to admire in Snoddy''s attitude IMO. Pleased to see him back on the pitch and wish him well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AJ 1,358 Posted November 11, 2015 Agree with previous sentiments, never wish bad luck on our players and it''s good to see him back in the game as he is an interesting player to watch - however, I must say I would pick one of Redmond, Brady or Jarvis over him any day. Just a bit too selfish, pushing too much blame and perhaps lacking a bit of quality - but a real trier and always gave his best for us.Interesting comments regarding Pilks, a Prem player every day of the week if he put in 100% effort all the time and actually stayed fit. Not sure if he''s injured or just out of favour but noticed he''s apparently only played one game for Cardiff so far this season. Again, a brilliantly gifted player who did very well for us on his day but I wouldn''t say he''s better than Brady, Redmond or Jarvis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katie Borkins 1 Posted November 11, 2015 Will never forgive him for destroying Ricky''s confidence and ruining his life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unique 466 Posted November 11, 2015 In a round about way, Norwich and Hull have stopped Snodgrass and Brady.I''m not sure I would have been thinking it two years ago, but when both players are fully fit, Brady is a huge upgrade on Snodgrass.Snodgrass'' heart was in the right place, but Brady''s ability to play to a high standard anywhere on the left side of the pitch, and his delivery, which has provided more opportunities for his teammates to score, than nearly every other player in the PL, puts him way ahead of Snodgrass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lappinitup 629 Posted November 11, 2015 [quote user="unique"]his delivery, which has provided more opportunities for his teammates to score, than nearly every other player in the PL, puts him way ahead of Snodgrass.[/quote]Brady would have been just as ineffective as Snoddy was if he played under Hughton. He would have soon realised it was a waste of time putting decent crosses in if there was nobody up there to get on the end of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,826 Posted November 11, 2015 [quote user="lappinitup"][quote user="unique"]his delivery, which has provided more opportunities for his teammates to score, than nearly every other player in the PL, puts him way ahead of Snodgrass.[/quote]Brady would have been just as ineffective as Snoddy was if he played under Hughton. He would have soon realised it was a waste of time putting decent crosses in if there was nobody up there to get on the end of them.[/quote]Plenty of occasions in the first season Holt would be arriving in the box and not being delivered the ball. In the second season it was RVW, until he lost the will to do it. The only decent crosses that I saw that were put in for him all season until the Fulham game away, were in the first one by Whittaker - and that was a spinning cross shot gone wrong - and one by Martin who had got ahead of Snodgrass on the right for once against who, I forget. RVW may not have been as good as we all hoped, but still could have scored more, given better service......oh and a free shot from the penalty spot, had "someone" not demanded the ball off him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lappinitup 629 Posted November 11, 2015 Haters are always gonna hate....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
......and Smith must score. 1,596 Posted November 11, 2015 [quote user="AJ"]......Interesting comments regarding Pilks, a Prem player every day of the week if he put in 100% effort all the time and actually stayed fit. Not sure if he''s injured or just out of favour but noticed he''s apparently only played one game for Cardiff so far this season. Again, a brilliantly gifted player who did very well for us on his day but I wouldn''t say he''s better than Brady, Redmond or Jarvis.[/quote]He''s been a regular starter or sub for Cardiff all season. Seems to get reasonable match ratings but he blows '' hot and cold '' even at Championship level.Never cut the mustard at Carrow Rd and seemed to want to dine out forever on his one real achievement, that goal against Man Utd. Even giving him some slack for all the injuries he got when he did play he just couldn''t be bothered half the time.Would definitely agree he''s not in the same class as Brady, Redmond or Jarvis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,902 Posted November 11, 2015 [quote user="The ghost of Michael Theoklitos"][quote user="andyc24_uk"]Glad to see him fit and I wish him well; but not sad he''s no longer with us. Too selfish and had a bad attitude, always moaning about something instead of accepting his own mistakes. Has natural talent for sure but I don''t miss him one little bit, we have a better, more balanced attack these days.[/quote]It''s funny. One thing people complain about the modern footballer is that many just show up to collect a pay cheque and don''t show enough passion for the cause. Then - in my opinion - you get a footballer that shows all those pride and passion qualities and tries his guts out every minute - and he gets slatted by some as ''moaning'' and ''selfish''.I''ll never forget him having a go back at the Snake Pit that daye after they booed his corner. To me, it showed he cared, and was having a go on a day when it wasn''t working for him. I''d prefer that to someone who just takes it and sulks any day.I also think it''s good to mention that he was often spotted at midweek away games last year in the Championship when we played up north. He obviously still respects the club, or at the very lest many of the people still involved in it. He was even kind enough to have quick interviews at half-time on the BBC Norfolk commentary on the odd occasion.While I agree that he wouldn''t fit into our team now, and that we''ve moved on, I couldn''t disagree more on the other points. I''d prefer to have players of that attitude any day when compared to many others we''ve had over the last few years.[/quote] Spot on buddy. Don''t know why there''s such an undercurrent of ill feeling towards the guy. He always gave everything and still holds the club and us fans close to his heart. I don''t follow closely all the players who leave but Snoddy is one that I do because he still follows us and always has time for our fans. At open days he''d make the extra effort to spend time with the youngsters. My grandson loves him. He most certainly doesn''t have a bad attitude. That''s simply untrue and he was a popular player here. He''s also well liked and popular back in his native Glasgow and never forgets his roots there just as he never forgets his time with us. As well as being a huge miss for Hull last season he was just as big a miss for his country. In fact the former Scotland International Player of the Year may well have been the difference they needed to qualify for the Euros. Theres some good stuff about him here : -http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/scotland-star-robert-snodgrass-tells-2965003 It''s interesting to compare Lakey''s comments about Snoddy with his comments about RVW. The only explanation I can think of to understand the difference would be that Lakey rates his footballers in the same way teenage girls rate boy bands....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,826 Posted November 11, 2015 Nutty Nigel: "It''s interesting to compare Lakey''s comments about Snoddy with his comments about RVW. The only explanation I can think of to understand the difference would be that Lakey rates his footballers in the same way teenage girls rate boy bands.......2 As I said previously, his off pitch demeanour and attitudes are a different story. I only talk about what he takes on to the pitch. I rate Snodgrass how I saw him - I''ll not go into it again - but as a footballer, if Snoddy was in a boy band, it would be like one of the also rans at Xfactor - full of enthusiasm, some definite abiliity, but too often singing out of tune with the rest of the band. As for RVW, the other members of the band wouldn''t let him have the microphone........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
