November World Cup!

[Maccys Back 0]

Will be unusual for us to stop our leagues. What a place to stage a world cup. Ridiculous

[Bethnal Yellow and Green 2,424]

I have no problem with the idea of a November World Cup - to strictly say the World Cup can only be held in the summer months means many countries around the world would never be able to hold a tournament.

In fact, the World Cup is held in the summer so it wouldn''t be too hot in South America (their winter) were it was originally hosted.

There are many problems with the 2022 World Cup, but they are all insignificant to the fact 1,200 people have died in the construction so far.

[lappinitup 629]

Nov26th - Dec23rd then possibly matches called off in Jan due to bad weather = chaos. [:@]

[Bethnal Yellow and Green 2,424]

Don''t be so soft - it will only be chaos if the FA and Leagues want it to be (which they do).

They manage a 6 week break in the winter every season in Germany and still have some games called off due to poor weather. It isn''t chaos every year - just requires some clear thinking ahead of time.

Dyke says the league will ''have to stop in October'' - but there is not need to stop it so soon. In the Africa Cup of Nations clubs were only required to release their players a week before the tournament began and the players were back at it within a week of the end. This is pretty extreme, and the World Cup would probably have a longer build up time, but it doesn''t have to be longer than 8 weeks in total.

It''s the leagues throwing their toys out of the pram (as usual) because something isn''t going their way.

[The Butler 0]

[quote user="lappinitup"]Nov26th - Dec23rd then possibly matches called off in Jan due to bad weather = chaos. [:@] [/quote]bang goes your holiday job in the Grotto

[The ghost of Michael Theoklitos 0]

[quote user="Bethnal Yellow and Green"]I have no problem with the idea of a November World Cup - to strictly say the World Cup can only be held in the summer months means many countries around the world would never be able to hold a tournament.

In fact, the World Cup is held in the summer so it wouldn''t be too hot in South America (their winter) were it was originally hosted.

There are many problems with the 2022 World Cup, but they are all insignificant to the fact 1,200 people have died in the construction so far.[/quote]This.Europe for so long has had a monopoly on the world cup being held when it suites them.I have loads of issues with the Qatar world cup in 2022 - the most significant being mentioned above, as well as the suspect nature it was awarded. I have no issue with entertaining the idea of moving it to another time.

[Dubai Mark 0]

I have a problem with the awarding of the World Cups to South Africa, Brazil and Russia as well as Qatar (which I have a huge issue with, despite possibly being the least corrupt out of the four), but also suspect that any country it is awarded to under the present regime will involve something dodgy happening behind the scenes. That said, at last common sense has prevailed and it will be played in decent weather.

[lake district canary 4,836]

[quote user="Dubai Mark"]I have a problem with the awarding of the World Cups to South Africa, Brazil and Russia as well as Qatar (which I have a huge issue with, despite possibly being the least corrupt out of the four), but also suspect that any country it is awarded to under the present regime will involve something dodgy happening behind the scenes. That said, at last common sense has prevailed and it will be played in decent weather.[/quote]

Its all very well them saying they will move it - but why wasn''t the heat thing foreseen or taken into account at the time?   If they did a proper appraisal, they would have given Qatar the World Cup and set it up as a winter tournament in the first place.   Useless, incompetent and corrupt.    

[PurpleCanary 6,391]

[quote user="Bethnal Yellow and Green"]I have no problem with the idea of a November World Cup - to strictly say the World Cup can only be held in the summer months means many countries around the world would never be able to hold a tournament.

In fact, the World Cup is held in the summer so it wouldn''t be too hot in South America (their winter) were it was originally hosted.

There are many problems with the 2022 World Cup, but they are all insignificant to the fact 1,200 people have died in the construction so far.[/quote]Bethnal, I would agree in general, but there seems no doubt, despite what Blatter tried to claim later, that the entire bidding process, including Qatar''s own prospectus, was predicated in writing on a (northern hemisphere) summer tournament. Once Qatar admitted that was not feasible there should have been a rerun of the bidding - this is still seven years away, after all - with all times of the year allowed for.

[Iwans Big Toe 382]

I couldn''t care less when the world cup is held, as I haven''t watched a world cup since reading David Yallop''s book FIFA: How They Stole the Game in 2005. And I can''t see that changing between now and 2022.

[Maccys Back 0]

I bet isis will be rubbing their bloody hands with glee at the thought of all us "infidels" coming to their part of the world.

All in all its a poor decision but one most have come to expect of these buffoons. Just like the "sin bin" idea they are mulling over for the game. 20years from now the ball will be egg shaped and you''ll only be allowed to hit it with a stick except the 3 goal keepers that are allowed to only use their heads. IF ITS NOT BROKE then leave it the funk ALONE!

[Making Plans 957]

No league football over Christmas is a bloody disgrace.What else is there to do on Boxing Day?And what about the FA Cup, that won''t happen in Jan & Feb because preference will be given to the PL as SKY will want to get their lost money back as quickly as possible.These idiots do not know what they''re doing.

[Molly Windley 76]

Qatar Population 278,000Immigrant workers - 1,500,000GDP - 203,000,000,000 USDAverage football league game attendance 5000Average temperature in July 41cPercentage of millionaires per capita 17.5%

I wonder which of these was the clincher in awarding them the World Cup 

[Syteanric 1]

I think we''ll be forced to continue with the league campaign whilst the world cup is on.. its going to be a nightmare if not!

[Johnny Stump 1]

Seriously, seven years isn''t long enough to put a reasonable alternative plan in place?

[percy varco 254]

Whats the problem with continuing with the leagues?

The modern game is a squad one, it will be a great way to give other players a chance. As teams are eliminated their players will return to play for their clubs.

Rugby continues with its league during the 6 nations at this time of year and it works well giving players a chance.

Finally as for Phil Nevilles thoughts that England have a better chance as our players will not be so tired as it is mid season, it will also be mid season for all the other players as well!! What a muppet

[Maccys Back 0]

No it won''t be the same though percy at all. Do you think every countries league starts the same day as ours and finishes the same as ours???

It may effect us in a round about way if all the rooneys and co''s get cream crackered out there and come back tired whilst our over looked players get a nice bit of R and R.

[percy varco 254]

No Maccy I am aware of other leagues timings, but in general it is part way through all seasons so how can this be a major advantage to England?

I for one would love to see a continuation of all leagues and the results it would bring and the talent it discovers

[TheRock 192]

Would anybody else be happier if England just boycotted Qatar 2022?The whole thing is a farce. You have to feel sorry for Australia losing out. FIFA''s corruption is slowly killing international football.

[Making Plans 957]

[quote user="percy varco"]Whats the problem with continuing with the leagues?

T[/quote]Can you honestly see a PL Club (e.g.. Chelsea, Man C etc), who may have more than half their squad away at the WC, agreeing to carry on and having to play against other PL Clubs that may have only one or two players away.It ain''t gonna happen

[Bethnal Yellow and Green 2,424]

The French league lost 77 players to the Africa Cup of Nations this year and didn''t stop - it would be possible to continue the league.

However, there really isn''t a need to do so, a 8 week break - which is all that is really required for the World Cup - can easily be managed in the middle of the season. Especially considering that some leagues already allow for a 6 week break in the winter.

Could continue the League Cup during the break, as I would also imagine the Football League wouldn''t take a break as it would affected to a lesser extent. Premier League teams tend to field reserve squads in the cup anyway.

Start the season a couple of weeks early and finish it a couple of weeks late - it really isn''t that much of a problem.

[Making Plans 957]

[quote user="Bethnal Yellow and Green"]The French league lost 77 players to the Africa Cup of Nations this year and didn''t stop - it would be possible to continue the league. [/quote]With the greatest respect though the French League is not the Premier League who, like it or not, have more clout than any other league in the World.And what would Sky, who also have a lot of clout, have to say about having to show Premier League games at the same time the World Cup is on, especially if it was Villa "Reserves" v Stoke "Reserves" - wouldn''t do much for their viewing figures and/or subscriptions.Even the lower leagues would be affected by attendances - not many would go to see a League 1 or 2 game if there was a WC game on the telly.It''s difficult to imagine how anything could possibly carry on at all while the WC is on

[SwindonCanary 457]

The main problem is that 2022 World Cup was awarded to Qatar when they had one of the most unsuitable bids, it''s clear that the country with the most money supplied the biggest ''bungs'' to the 22 members of the Executive Committee. Whoever becomes the next Fifa President should change the rules about the voting, there are 209 members of the Football Confederation all of them should get a vote, not just the Executive members.

[Bethnal Yellow and Green 2,424]

Why we should care is Sky are upset or not is beyond me. League One and Two already play through international breaks without much bother and all the important World Cup games will be evening kick offs so won''t really affect the domestic calendar too much.

The clubs are going to whine and moan as they look to increase the amount of money they already receive from FIFA for releasing players. The big leagues will moan as they don''t like international football trying to steal their thunder (if the Premier League could it would scrap the World Cup entirely) and the FA will moan as they know doing anything to oppose FIFA will make them look good. They hope if they moan enough people will forget how useless and in the pocket of the Premier League they are.

The 2022 World Cup will come and go without much of a hic-cup to the state of the Premier League or the Football League (although a lot of belly aching). What is really worrying is that far more attention is being paid to the fact the final will not be in the summer than the fact people are dying everyday so this tournament can be hosted at all.

[ncfcstar 342]

[quote user="Bethnal Yellow and Green"]Why we should care is Sky are upset or not is beyond me. League One and Two already play through international breaks without much bother and all the important World Cup games will be evening kick offs so won''t really affect the domestic calendar too much.

The clubs are going to whine and moan as they look to increase the amount of money they already receive from FIFA for releasing players. The big leagues will moan as they don''t like international football trying to steal their thunder (if the Premier League could it would scrap the World Cup entirely) and the FA will moan as they know doing anything to oppose FIFA will make them look good. They hope if they moan enough people will forget how useless and in the pocket of the Premier League they are.

The 2022 World Cup will come and go without much of a hic-cup to the state of the Premier League or the Football League (although a lot of belly aching). What is really worrying is that far more attention is being paid to the fact the final will not be in the summer than the fact people are dying everyday so this tournament can be hosted at all.[/quote][Y]

[ZLF 335]

Sky still get 38 game weeks and to televise the same number of games.      The xmas fixtures will still happen.    The players still have the same number of games to play and if anything will be fresher in Nov than in June after a long season.

 

The PL and european leagues appear to be throwing their weight around for little discernable reason.

 

For once I want FIFA to stand firm on this - & to start truly punishing the clubs that withhold players from international duty.   

 

 

[Johnny Stump 1]

Has the Sky contract even been negotiated up to 2022? I don''t think so. The EPL have always advocated a winter break anyway, not sure why they''re spitting their dummy out. As I said seven years to put a plan in place which could include starting the season earlier and extending it later. As Bethnal said.

[SwindonCanary 457]

I think it''s totally wrong that they have decide to have a World Cup over the months of November and December but if it has to be, I don''t see much of a problem accommodating it. A normal season ends in May and starts again in August, a 3 month gap just cut it down to a month and a half  at the start and end of that season, giving a 3 month gap for the world cup. 

[Canary001 0]

European countries should just say no, without them there is no World Cup . Dont let a corrupt Fifa win on this one .

[Lessingham Canary 108]

2022, likelihood is all our players will be representing Scotland by then, are they likely to be there ???

seriously Australia must be mightily p###d off, but that''s where we are, and it is (as already said more than once) 7 years away, so plenty of time for all associations to get their plans in place.