holt.

[bigkev 1974 0]

if some1 were to make say a 3 mill offer to buy grant holt would you sell him.. i think the whole front line needs a change about? i would snap there hands off?

[Mister Chops 7]

[quote user="bigkev 1974"]if some1 were to make say a 3 mill offer to buy grant holt would you sell him.. i think the whole front line needs a change about? i would snap there hands off?[/quote]Snapping their hands off would seem slightly aggressive and might put them off the transaction. I''d probably say "we''d want at least £5 million."

[Snakepit Ric 0]

[quote user="bigkev 1974"]if some1 were to make say a 3 mill offer to buy grant holt would you sell him.. i think the whole front line needs a change about? i would snap there hands off?[/quote].

No I wouldn''t I just think he need some support and service. No striker would of scored for us today with the lack if chances created !!

[mrs miggins 0]

I would if we had 2 suitable replacements lined up for him

[bigkev 1974 0]

i have not wrote this just because of todays result. i will never moan about him not being a good player but i just think holt is to safe at the moment and has no way near scored enough goals?  if morison were to start playing like holt but did not score say after 5 games all the morison haters would be booing him?

[canaryfan68 0]

Until Hughton takes the attacking part of our game seriously it doesn''t matter who we have up front. He is so hellbent on our defence that he can''t get right that he is costing by how we are set up.

[Nexus_Canary 1,206]

We can not afford to sell Holt. In the current climate he is priceless.£3m for Holt is insulting.

[Nexus_Canary 1,206]

[quote user="bigkev 1974"]i have not wrote this just because of todays result. i will never moan about him not being a good player but i just think holt is to safe at the moment and has no way near scored enough goals?  if morison were to start playing like holt but did not score say after 5 games all the morison haters would be booing him?[/quote]He is not capable or at least is capable but doesnt want to. Making your point moot.Moro is a waste. Has bags of tallent and obviously does not want to use it , or with Norwich at least. He is like a washed up old version of Chris Martin.www.lazybanker.com

[First Wizard 0]

Calderwood ruined Holt at Forest, now with CH''s help he''s doing the same here.

[bigkev 1974 0]

does make you wonder?

[Six Pack 105]

[quote user="canaryfan68"]Until Hughton takes the attacking part of our game seriously it doesn''t matter who we have up front. He is so hellbent on our defence that he can''t get right that he is costing by how we are set up.[/quote]

Taking the attacking part of the game seriously means we add another striker to play alongside Holt (perhaps Jackson), bring in Fox, put Hoolahan back into central midfield & play Elliott Bennett, Snodgrass & Pilkington all in the same team.

It doesn''t mean changing the personnel for the current system - cos we already have the best players in there & results wouldn''t be change due to injuries to key players. We have not the depth.

oh defence - Bunn is too short & Ryan Bennett''s level is league one - always been from day one.

[ARCHIEGEMMELL 0]

[quote user="bigkev 1974"]if some1 were to make say a 3 mill offer to buy grant holt would you sell him.. i think the whole front line needs a change about? i would snap there hands off?[/quote]We should have flogged in the Summer to the Spammers for silly money rather than tie him to a very lucrative contract. In my opinion he has been rather ineffective this season when making a comparison to the extortionate wages he''s currently on. I feel the club is in a catch 22 situation.  To keep face they have to keep playing him to justify his wages and the player lacks any real motivation because he now knows his and his familie''s future is secure!  The club should have stood firm with him during the Summer and if the player walked...I believe for the money we would have received from his transfer and the wages we were prepared to pay him we could have got a far better and more technically gifted footballer to play Hughton''s new system!

[Rudolph Hucker 0]

The Horse is looking increasingly like Orwell''s Boxer the Cart Horse under the current management.

[Thirsty Lizard 3,215]

BigKev - you say that if Morison played like Holt recently and didn''t score for 5 games then people would come on here criticising him.

I''ll correct that for you - if Morison played like Holt has recently for 5 SECONDS - there are some people who would be on here criticising him.

[Yellow Wal 315]

ARCHIEGEMMELL wrote the following post at 20/01/2013 8:02 PM:

........... to play Hughton''s new system!

The system has evolved mainly because of the personnel and deficiencies Hughton inherited.

With new players the system will change but at the moment he feels we have little choice.

[Mister Chops 7]

[quote user="Wiz"]Calderwood ruined Holt at Forest, now with CH''s help he''s doing the same here.[/quote]

Wiz

wrote the following post at Sat, Sep 15 2012 6:58 PM:

Hoots has worked miracles with our sieve of a defence, give him

time and he''ll get the attack sorted too.

So

shall we give him some time?

[Jack Barak 46]

I haven'' been back from Liverpool long and logged on to see this, prior to watching him on Saturday I''d probably have said we should get rid for £5m but after the Liverpool game I really think we must keep him and give him better service. When all the other heads went down and they were just standing off Liverpool Holt was still chasing down and shouting at everyone else to put a shift in. When the team was quiet and sinking fast he appeared at the back doing his best to organise and trying to get us going again. If we take him out of the team at the moment there would literally be no driving force, they looked tired yesterday all over the pitch but Holt kept going till the whistle.So, in summary and in my humble opinion, we must keep hold of Holt and we need to find our midfield effort again, we give too much space, we lunge in too easily but Hughton will fix these things; this year was always going to be hard but I still think we will make it over the line because of people like Holt.

[Rock The Boat 1,332]

Holt is operating at about 80% of last season''s performance, but that still puts him as the best striker in our squad, so for that reason alone we have to keep him until better players are signed.

With two new signings on board, then we could re-assess the Holt situation

[ZLF 334]

Every player has their price;  £3m isnt enough and we should be adding quality beyond our best player in each position;   we wont get that with just £3m.   Get to £5m and its a harder question.

 

 

What is clear is that team simply do not play 442 anymore - and the type of striker we need is different.     What Holt can become is an excellent support striker - in the wes/rooney space;   he has never been a good lone striker but excellent at link up play.   Whether he can come that deep is another question - but may be how we get the best from him - sat behind a graham for example.  

 

[Nick 0]

Yup 3 million for holt is good enough for me. Over the past few months Ive become really frustrated with him on the pitch. Coupled with the fact he seems more concerned with racing dogs and Carlisle etc on twitter its made me think hes become very complacent. Sick of his attitude tbh.

[Webbo118 0]

[quote user="Six Pack"][quote user="canaryfan68"]Until Hughton takes the attacking part of our game seriously it doesn''t matter who we have up front. He is so hellbent on our defence that he can''t get right that he is costing by how we are set up.[/quote] Taking the attacking part of the game seriously means we add another striker to play alongside Holt (perhaps Jackson), bring in Fox, put Hoolahan back into central midfield & play Elliott Bennett, Snodgrass & Pilkington all in the same team. It doesn''t mean changing the personnel for the current system - cos we already have the best players in there & results wouldn''t be change due to injuries to key players. We have not the depth. oh defence - Bunn is too short & Ryan Bennett''s level is league one - always been from day one.[/quote]

Have you got your abacus handy?

[a1canary 0]

[quote user="Nexus_Canary"]We can not afford to sell Holt. In the current climate he is priceless.

£3m for Holt is insulting.
[/quote]

THIS.

 

Are we going to do this every time we go a few games without scoring? Our poor recent run started the moment he was OUT of the side. How do people not see this? Or that he was instrumental in our unbeaten run?

[Scooby 0]

[quote user="Yellow Wall"]ARCHIEGEMMELL wrote the following post at 20/01/2013 8:02 PM:

........... to play Hughton''s new system!

The system has evolved mainly because of the personnel and deficiencies Hughton inherited.

With new players the system will change but at the moment he feels we have little choice.[/quote]

Told ya that did he? Huh, did he...... Did he ???

Nah, didn''t think so.