norfolkbroadslim 225 Posted May 14, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18057488 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Brownstone 0 Posted May 14, 2012 Lerner vs McNasty...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,902 Posted May 14, 2012 Thanks ''slim. But whatever will be will be. There''s nothing we can do and I for one at this time would rather be reflecting on what has been a tremendously enjoyable season than be fretting about the future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,902 Posted May 14, 2012 Paul Faulkner vs David McNally Randy Lerner vs Delia Smith No worries there[;)] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waveney Canary 0 Posted May 14, 2012 I think he has had plenty of opportunity to pledge himself to the club over the past few days and hasnt which says a lot. I can''t thank him enough for what he has done for the club. He does look like he is moving on (i didnt buy it re the Burnley rumour but this time i do). Through out his playing career he didnt really show any loyalty and I don''t expect him to change his ways with us.Good luck where ever he goes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkbroadslim 225 Posted May 14, 2012 [quote user="nutty nigel"]Thanks ''slim. But whatever will be will be. There''s nothing we can do and I for one at this time would rather be reflecting on what has been a tremendously enjoyable season than be fretting about the future. [/quote] I''m not fretting Nigel. I agree with you![:O] I posted this in reponse to some of the paranoid little souls on here. They''ve got it bad, worse than I''ve ever had! 12th place is a fantastic achievement and the win yesterday capped it off perfectly. I''m looking forward to an exciting close season of transfers and another year in the Premier League! We''re getting nearer to the debt being paid off and possibly to having a bigger stadium! It''s been our best season for a long time (about 18 years) and with lots to remain positive about for the future[Y] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Shuck 291 Posted May 14, 2012 He''s made it quite clear before that he wants to be at Norwich and carry on here.. ."I''ve never once indicated that I want to leave the club - I love it here, I really do. I think it''s a brilliant football club with a great fan base." Link- http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/norwich/8633363.stm He said that two years ago-when there was still, I guess to him, work to do. Now maybe that work is done? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorwichNorth 0 Posted May 14, 2012 I think it might get abit ugly this summer if a club does want to come in for lambert! I hope if he does go then it will all be sorted quick so we can plan for next season!I hope and think Mcnally will fight to keep the manager! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pete_norw 0 Posted May 14, 2012 [quote user="NorwichNorth"]I think it might get abit ugly this summer if a club does want to come in for lambert! I hope if he does go then it will all be sorted quick so we can plan for next season! I hope and think Mcnally will fight to keep the manager![/quote]I believe that if ever thier was a time Norwich needed to pus the boat out in support of our manager then its now, he needs the club to give him what he wants to compete next season here, they need to show him ambition, by that I mean allow him the funds to keep us here in this league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
William Darby 0 Posted May 14, 2012 [quote user="pete_norw"][quote user="NorwichNorth"]I think it might get abit ugly this summer if a club does want to come in for lambert! I hope if he does go then it will all be sorted quick so we can plan for next season! I hope and think Mcnally will fight to keep the manager![/quote]I believe that if ever thier was a time Norwich needed to pus the boat out in support of our manager then its now, he needs the club to give him what he wants to compete next season here, they need to show him ambition, by that I mean allow him the funds to keep us here in this league. [/quote]What else do you want them to do? They''ve already said he can have the extra EPL place money, that equates to around £4m. On top of his war chest that''s similar to last year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bury Yellow 2 Posted May 14, 2012 Nail on head pete_norw. We as a club have a massive disadvantage of lacking a major investor (before all the Delia defenders attack) this is not a criticism of our previous board or indeed the obvious efforts of Messrs Bowkett and McNally.Somehow they have to try and dig out a way to find cash to meet Lambo''s vision. It won''t be easy and I certainly would not complain if they fail in the attempt.This is the most testing and exciting crossroads our club has reached for many many years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Son Ova Gunn 165 Posted May 14, 2012 The words Lambert has used in recent days/weeks has been scrutinised for clues but I think McNallys choice of words says even more, specifically, if villa want Lambert, but Lambert doesnt want to go, why would he have to ''fight'' to keep him. Obviously Mcnally isnt as confident as some posters that if offered the job, Lambert would not fancy it. Does he think this, or does he know this having already had discussions with his manager in light of the speculation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rudolph Hucker 0 Posted May 14, 2012 As for funds, Paul Lambert has been an excellent investment so why not back him.Beyond that, Paul Lambert is an employee of Norwich City football Club. He is generally dispassionate, we employ him but we are not his Club.The Club is the supporters, the majority shareholders and the Board. The bottom line is, ''we are Norwich City, not Lambert United, and we will not be held to ransom or suffer distraction ahead of the new season.''Do what you want Paul, you will always carry our appreciation unless you turn this into a soap opera. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanaryOne 0 Posted May 14, 2012 We will always be mid table Championship with our spending however long we stay in the top flight , Lambert needs a Premiership kitty or he will be off because if you keep buying league one and championship players someday you will find yourself back in those divisions .We are Premier League so spend some money and act like it, this squad is relegation fodder without the Lambert magic . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fiery Zac 1,066 Posted May 14, 2012 McNally said on radio Norfolk that once costs are paid, all money left is spent on the squad - so all the talk of ''we''ve got to give lambert the money to get him to stay'' talk is silly imo.I trust that McNally would do whatever is physically possible to get lambert to stay ie give as much money as possible for transfers - but to risk our financial stature on one (hugely talented) manager would be foolish, and what if it then backfired, and we got relegated under lambert?As said above, lambert is not the be all and end all of Norwich city. He is possibly the best manager this club has ever had and has steered us away from potential meltdown. Everyone connected with the club wants him to stay and lambert himself knows how much he is loved here. But we must still survive within our means and if lambert has higher ambitions with more money required to meet those ambitions then he will leave the club when a better offer comes along (and if that''s villa so be it).I personally would be a lot more worried if McNally left the club, and trust that he will have a suitable replacement if lambert decides to leave who can work to the structure the club has set out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Webbo118 0 Posted May 14, 2012 [quote user="ting tong"]I think he has had plenty of opportunity to pledge himself to the club over the past few days and hasnt which says a lot. I can''t thank him enough for what he has done for the club. He does look like he is moving on (i didnt buy it re the Burnley rumour but this time i do). Through out his playing career he didnt really show any loyalty and I don''t expect him to change his ways with us.Good luck where ever he goes. [/quote]Why? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Europe_93 50 Posted May 14, 2012 By the end of the week, he will let go the players he is going to let go from the squad, that will be a clear indication Lambert is staying. This storm in a teacup should help drive down transfer fees, i.e. he is crow barring every last penny out of the board and that is all we have available, but lambert will already know his budget.Other''s have alluded to it, but alignment is massively important in management, he has it here and he won''t risk it for Villa. However, if the "Victims" come calling it might be different (but not their fault obviously). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CambridgeCanary 0 Posted May 14, 2012 I don''t think that this is as clear cut as many assume. We don''t know what Lambert wants or how settled his team are here. Culverhouse and Karsa will have a say too. The Villa job is risky. Lambert''s next move must be good. If he goes up a level and fails then he may be tainted for good. Paul Ince moved too soon to Blackburn and has not worked in the top two divisions since because he is seen as damaged and a failure. Lambert cannot afford a bad move. Does he feel ready to step up. he is consatantly talking about his Prem inexperience. I will live with whatever happens but I do b elieve that this is a more complex situation than many posters are allowing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canaries 0 Posted May 14, 2012 At least we have a board who will fight to keep lambert unlike a few years ago. If he really wants to go there''s nothing anyone can do but at least they will make villa work it get him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Vince 423 Posted May 14, 2012 It all boils down to the fact that Delia Smith is not prepared to give up control of the club so that a new investor can take us to the next level. Lambert knows the score. He has stated that THE CLUB needs a hand for next season. This means serious money. It will not happen because Delia will not make way. She is even more stubborn than Chase. She does not encourage any outside investors. We saw what happened with Cullum. We saw what didn''t happen with Tony Fernandes. The difference between Delia Smith and Bernie Ecclestone was that Bernie got on the phone to Tony and invited him to get involved. Now QPR have survived Tony can spend big for next season giving them a better chance of survival next term than a post-Lambert Norwich. Delia Smith, MWJ (and their mate Stephen Fry) are every inch mid-table Championship as was demonstrated all too clearly in the pre-McNally era. Heaven help this club if we were to lose McNally too........... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aggy 944 Posted May 14, 2012 Which one of the hundreds of oil-rich Arabs who queue outside Delia''s office every day do you suggest we go for Vince? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bury Yellow 2 Posted May 14, 2012 Unfortunately I fear you may be correct Vince Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
. 0 Posted May 14, 2012 I hate to say it... but I''ve said all along that this joy ride to the Premiership is simply an over inflating ''bubble'' based on little more than a once in a lifetime manager and a team of bargain basement footballers believing the dream.Any new manager will find it impossible to fill the huge boots left by PL... the crowd will be on his back from the off and the discord will see McNally and Bowkett leave for new pastures.Who that leaves in control should worry us deeply. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,902 Posted May 14, 2012 Nice to see big vince back! But I thought Wynnie was the problem : - http://services.pinkun.com/forums/pinkun/cs/forums/1816538/ShowPost.aspx And now we see Cluckin'' Nora going back to her roots. Couple of binners who have been allowed to troll this forum for far too long.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PurpleCanary 6,386 Posted May 14, 2012 [quote user="Big Vince"]It all boils down to the fact that Delia Smith is not prepared to give up control of the club so that a new investor can take us to the next level. Lambert knows the score. He has stated that THE CLUB needs a hand for next season. This means serious money. It will not happen because Delia will not make way. She is even more stubborn than Chase. She does not encourage any outside investors. We saw what happened with Cullum. We saw what didn''t happen with Tony Fernandes. The difference between Delia Smith and Bernie Ecclestone was that Bernie got on the phone to Tony and invited him to get involved. Now QPR have survived Tony can spend big for next season giving them a better chance of survival next term than a post-Lambert Norwich. Delia Smith, MWJ (and their mate Stephen Fry) are every inch mid-table Championship as was demonstrated all too clearly in the pre-McNally era. Heaven help this club if we were to lose McNally too...........[/quote] I''m afraid I have to agree with Big Vince on this. Delia just will not let go of her trainset. I am quoting from memory here but I am pretty sure this is what Bowkett said about the search carried out by Deloitte to try to find new investment:"We approached 52 potential investors around the world - in Europe, Russia, the Middle East, the Far East, the United States and, of course, the UK. We had dozens of really well-founded expressions of interest, and every time we asked the question ''Could you please verify you have funding?’ every one passed the test. But Delia just vetoed the lot. There are people out there with real money in their pockets who would love to own Norwich City FC and push us on to the next level but our majority shareholder would sooner see the club go to the wall than lose control."PS. Actually, this is slightly embarrassing. I have just checked the Bowkett quote and I didn''t quite have it right. What he actually said was:"We have approached 52 potential investors around the world - in Europe, Russia, the Middle East, the Far East, the United States and, of course, the UK We have had some expressions of interest. But every time when I asked the question ‘Could you please verify you have funding?’ no one passed the test. We have searched throughout the world with the toughest advisers, but there is no one out there with real money in their pockets. I like to see the colour of someone’s money before we do any deals and no one has shown us any.”I think the sense is the same, deep down... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bury Yellow 2 Posted May 14, 2012 and then along came Fernandez Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tangible Fixed Assets anyone? 0 Posted May 14, 2012 [quote user="Big Vince"]It all boils down to the fact that Delia Smith is not prepared to give up control of the club so that a new investor can take us to the next level. Lambert knows the score. He has stated that THE CLUB needs a hand for next season. This means serious money. It will not happen because Delia will not make way. She is even more stubborn than Chase. She does not encourage any outside investors. We saw what happened with Cullum. We saw what didn''t happen with Tony Fernandes. The difference between Delia Smith and Bernie Ecclestone was that Bernie got on the phone to Tony and invited him to get involved. Now QPR have survived Tony can spend big for next season giving them a better chance of survival next term than a post-Lambert Norwich. Delia Smith, MWJ (and their mate Stephen Fry) are every inch mid-table Championship as was demonstrated all too clearly in the pre-McNally era. Heaven help this club if we were to lose McNally too...........[/quote]or Bowkett.Thats an interesting post Vince. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PurpleCanary 6,386 Posted May 14, 2012 [quote user="Tangible Fixed Assets anyone"] [quote user="Big Vince"]It all boils down to the fact that Delia Smith is not prepared to give up control of the club so that a new investor can take us to the next level. Lambert knows the score. He has stated that THE CLUB needs a hand for next season. This means serious money. It will not happen because Delia will not make way. She is even more stubborn than Chase. She does not encourage any outside investors. We saw what happened with Cullum. We saw what didn''t happen with Tony Fernandes. The difference between Delia Smith and Bernie Ecclestone was that Bernie got on the phone to Tony and invited him to get involved. Now QPR have survived Tony can spend big for next season giving them a better chance of survival next term than a post-Lambert Norwich. Delia Smith, MWJ (and their mate Stephen Fry) are every inch mid-table Championship as was demonstrated all too clearly in the pre-McNally era. Heaven help this club if we were to lose McNally too...........[/quote]or Bowkett.Thats an interesting post Vince. [/quote] In what ways, specifically, is it an interesting post? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djc 0 Posted May 14, 2012 [quote user="ting tong"]I think he has had plenty of opportunity to pledge himself to the club over the past few days and hasnt which says a lot. I can''t thank him enough for what he has done for the club. He does look like he is moving on (i didnt buy it re the Burnley rumour but this time i do). Through out his playing career he didnt really show any loyalty and I don''t expect him to change his ways with us.Good luck where ever he goes. [/quote]Perhaps PL doesnt have to say things we all want to hear from him. Just because we dont always tell our loved ones we love them doesnt mean we have stopped loving them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djc 0 Posted May 14, 2012 [quote user="ting tong"]I think he has had plenty of opportunity to pledge himself to the club over the past few days and hasnt which says a lot. I can''t thank him enough for what he has done for the club. He does look like he is moving on (i didnt buy it re the Burnley rumour but this time i do). Through out his playing career he didnt really show any loyalty and I don''t expect him to change his ways with us.Good luck where ever he goes. [/quote]Perhaps PL doesnt have to say things we all want to hear from him. Just because we dont always tell our loved ones we love them doesnt mean we have stopped loving them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites