First Wazzock 1,011 Posted April 2, 2010 The rules of the game state, A direct free kick is also awarded to the opposing team if a player commits anyof the following three offences:• holds an opponent• spits at an opponent• handles the ball deliberately (except for the goalkeeper within his own penalty area)The nuts and bolts of this mean, the ball has to be played by the hand or arm. It certainly does not mean when the ball is fired at you it is deliberate if it hits you on the arm, especially if your arm is by your side.Now bearing that in mind, he has taken the advice of an assistant Ref who is standing sideways on to the incident. Eddie Ilderson was NOT in a good enough position to see the incident himself, and therefore should not have given it, as the assistant didn''t have a clear enough view to say it was deliberate.The second penalty Mr Ilderson was also not in a good enough position to see if there had been contact. When you know full well that any striker in this position is going to go down like he has been shot, you have to be in the right place to make the right decision, as he wasn''t I have to question his fitness/positioning, as any contact there was appeared to be minimal (it always seems strange to me that nearly every time in this situation the refs favour the attacker).The third goal, well what can you say.Eddie Ilderson super assistant had a ''clear view'' of the earlier ''handball'', but fails to see a Tranmere player actually controlling the ball before shooting right in front of him.The three officials should take a good look at their performances tonight, they were not good enough. But what makes it even more farcical is the fact that the FA will no doubt appoint them to another game next week where they can go on to make the same mistakes, or worse. The fact that the poor officials just trundle on from one game to the next under the cloak of the FA is undoubtably bringing the game into disrepute without any help from clubs or players.Am I sick about tonight? After having 2 off the line,You Betcha... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Talk Show Host 0 Posted April 2, 2010 I say we kill him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ivana_rubyatitz 6 Posted April 2, 2010 ...and he still found time to miss another penalty in the second half for us Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clever Farke 75 Posted April 2, 2010 [quote user="LotharMatthaus"]I say we kill him.[/quote]Get in the queue.http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/4821588.Leeds_United_3_Hartlepool_United_1/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beauseant 0 Posted April 2, 2010 He''s also compounded it by lying. A manager coming on to the pitch to return a ball isn''t in itself a sending off (according to Sky, but I''m sure Wazzy can confiirm) but he''s now retrospectively justifying it by saying that Lambo was aggressive towards him, but the footage clearly shows him gesture Lambert upstairs while near the middle of the pitch and as the camera also shows Lambo it''s quite clear that he has said nothing at that point. The bloke is an absolute disgrace. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Divs crew! 0 Posted April 2, 2010 The ref was shocking,the lino was shocking......I seen some crap decisions but they just beat em all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Metatron 0 Posted April 2, 2010 http://www.refworld.com/referee/144/1/eddie-ildertonWhat skills do you think you need to become a referee? "The most important is excellent management, and communication skills. If you can''t talk to players then you will struggle."In your opinion who is/was the best referee? "Pierluigi Collina. Total respect from everyone"EPIC FAIL (as the youngsters say) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heresyourfathersgun 0 Posted April 2, 2010 To criticise Ilderson is a bit rash - the blame lies almost entirely with his assistant - he gave the ''handball'' against Russell when the ref had let it go. He''s put doubt in Ildersons mind. The second is 50 - 50 - always a risk if the keeper doesn''t get there, so can''t blame him for getting it wrong (he is wrong).The third is again a poor decision by the assistant again putting doubt in the refs mind.As for Lambert & Karsa, the ref will always win a slanging match by sending them off.The worst decision of the night was for Sky to televise it and jinx us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
First Wazzock 1,011 Posted April 2, 2010 [quote user="Beauseant"]He''s also compounded it by lying. A manager coming on to the pitch to return a ball isn''t in itself a sending off (according to Sky, but I''m sure Wazzy can confiirm) but he''s now retrospectively justifying it by saying that Lambo was aggressive towards him, but the footage clearly shows him gesture Lambert upstairs while near the middle of the pitch and as the camera also shows Lambo it''s quite clear that he has said nothing at that point. The bloke is an absolute disgrace.[/quote]In the course of several games we often see managers return the ball to their players especially if it has gone out near to the dugout. As I remember Paul Lambert was returning the ball for City free kick, therefore the ball was dead. So he couldn''t have encroached onto the pitch OR played the ball while it was in play. Saying Lambert was agressive towards him is pitiful. he should go home and analyse his own performance rather than trying to point the finger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baldyboy 1 Posted April 2, 2010 Tranmere had a novel way of a manager being on the pitch tho, as hes the physio too!!! Surely that shouldnt be allowed, as he is also the only person a ref cannot dismiss from the pitchside area!! ( Before anyone slates me that IS the law!!) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
First Wazzock 1,011 Posted April 2, 2010 [quote user="Heresyourfathersgun"]To criticise Ilderson is a bit rash - the blame lies almost entirely with his assistant - he gave the ''handball'' against Russell when the ref had let it go. He''s put doubt in Ildersons mind. The second is 50 - 50 - always a risk if the keeper doesn''t get there, so can''t blame him for getting it wrong (he is wrong).The third is again a poor decision by the assistant again putting doubt in the refs mind.As for Lambert & Karsa, the ref will always win a slanging match by sending them off.The worst decision of the night was for Sky to televise it and jinx us.[/quote]Ilderson should brief his assistants as to what he wants from them.Most Refs will tell you (as an assistant) dont make me look a ****, I can do that myself.Well thats what one ref told me in an FA Vase game !!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
First Wazzock 1,011 Posted April 2, 2010 I''ve been drinking Grimbergen (6.7% lovely) all night no wonder I can''t spell his name right !!!Eddie Ilderton, so there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leedscanary 389 Posted April 2, 2010 [quote user="Clean Shirt"]rape his mum![/quote]Thought I was back on Waccoe there for a minute Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diesel Doris 130 Posted April 2, 2010 During the Radio Norfolk commentary Chris Goreham said "get a grip ref". Well the only thing he''s going to grip is his c**k...........what a to$$er.[:@] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Woman in the Stands (WITS) 0 Posted April 2, 2010 [quote user="Diesel Doris"]During the Radio Norfolk commentary Chris Goreham said "get a grip ref". Well the only thing he''s going to grip is his c**k...........what a to$$er.[:@][/quote]You are assuming he''s not a eunuch then DD? lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Fantastic 0 Posted April 2, 2010 http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=110596042297412join and invite your friends! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diesel Doris 130 Posted April 2, 2010 I am indeed WITS!!!!![:D] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Lambert is King 0 Posted April 2, 2010 [quote user="First Wazzock"][quote user="Beauseant"]He''s also compounded it by lying. A manager coming on to the pitch to return a ball isn''t in itself a sending off (according to Sky, but I''m sure Wazzy can confiirm) but he''s now retrospectively justifying it by saying that Lambo was aggressive towards him, but the footage clearly shows him gesture Lambert upstairs while near the middle of the pitch and as the camera also shows Lambo it''s quite clear that he has said nothing at that point. The bloke is an absolute disgrace.[/quote]In the course of several games we often see managers return the ball to their players especially if it has gone out near to the dugout. As I remember Paul Lambert was returning the ball for City free kick, therefore the ball was dead. So he couldn''t have encroached onto the pitch OR played the ball while it was in play. Saying Lambert was agressive towards him is pitiful. he should go home and analyse his own performance rather than trying to point the finger[/quote]Best bit of that for me was he was only getting the ball back as a TRANMERE PLAYER had kicked the ball away. Needless to say the Tranmere player wasnt even booked Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clever Farke 75 Posted April 2, 2010 [quote user="Heresyourfathersgun"]To criticise Ilderson is a bit rash - the blame lies almost entirely with his assistant - he gave the ''handball'' against Russell when the ref had let it go. He''s put doubt in Ildersons mind. The second is 50 - 50 - always a risk if the keeper doesn''t get there, so can''t blame him for getting it wrong (he is wrong).The third is again a poor decision by the assistant again putting doubt in the refs mind.As for Lambert & Karsa, the ref will always win a slanging match by sending them off.The worst decision of the night was for Sky to televise it and jinx us.[/quote]But this would seem to be a fair account from a qpr site:Referee: Eddie Ilderton (Tyne & Wear) 4 - Positioning was consistently awful and was therefore always a long, long, long way away from any incident that took place. Compare him to Steve Bennett, not a particularly good elite official himself, at the weekend when he was right on the spot of any foul with a quick blast of the whistle and away we went again and the difference was stark. I lost count of the amount of times neither he nor his linesman, one of which showed no signs of life whatsoever throughout the game, looked blankly at each other and then guessed a decision. Missed Patrick Agyemang being pulled back by the neck after turning his full back, missed countless shirt pulling offences, accused a player of diving and then awarded another a free kick for the same thing seconds later and so it goes on. Also apparently turned up with a sun dial to keep time only to find that it gets dark in Barnsley about 6pm at the moment – hence a first half that he said he would extend by two minutes ended up running to 50. Either that or he wanted to see what happened with their corners, bless him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shack Attack 0 Posted April 2, 2010 Eddie Ilderton sounds more like a baker from Yorkshire rather than a referee. Clearly a Leeds fan [N] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chelmsford Canary 0 Posted April 2, 2010 What makes it even worse, after lamberts comments on sky sports news, he will probably get a fine for "bringing the game into disrupt" what a load of b0llocks. Everyone else can say the ref was shite, why can''t the manager say his opinion! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Puzzy magnet 0 Posted April 2, 2010 When your biggest ever game is a testimonial you know it''s tinpot League one: http://www.refworld.com/referee/144/1/eddie-ilderton Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
First Wazzock 1,011 Posted April 2, 2010 [quote user="book end"][quote user="Heresyourfathersgun"] To criticise Ilderson is a bit rash - the blame lies almost entirely with his assistant - he gave the ''handball'' against Russell when the ref had let it go. He''s put doubt in Ildersons mind. The second is 50 - 50 - always a risk if the keeper doesn''t get there, so can''t blame him for getting it wrong (he is wrong).The third is again a poor decision by the assistant again putting doubt in the refs mind.As for Lambert & Karsa, the ref will always win a slanging match by sending them off.The worst decision of the night was for Sky to televise it and jinx us.[/quote]But this would seem to be a fair account from a qpr site:Referee: Eddie Ilderton (Tyne & Wear) 4 - Positioning was consistently awful and was therefore always a long, long, long way away from any incident that took place. Compare him to Steve Bennett, not a particularly good elite official himself, at the weekend when he was right on the spot of any foul with a quick blast of the whistle and away we went again and the difference was stark. I lost count of the amount of times neither he nor his linesman, one of which showed no signs of life whatsoever throughout the game, looked blankly at each other and then guessed a decision. Missed Patrick Agyemang being pulled back by the neck after turning his full back, missed countless shirt pulling offences, accused a player of diving and then awarded another a free kick for the same thing seconds later and so it goes on. Also apparently turned up with a sun dial to keep time only to find that it gets dark in Barnsley about 6pm at the moment – hence a first half that he said he would extend by two minutes ended up running to 50. Either that or he wanted to see what happened with their corners, bless him. [/quote]Exactly my point I''m glad someone else agrees.It''s hard to get any respect when you are not up to the job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clint 221 Posted April 3, 2010 To be fair to the clown in the middle, it was the balding dwarf and his flag (or lack thereof) that really screwed us! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Syteanric 1 Posted April 3, 2010 from reading that interview with Ilderton it seems his Dad used t be a ref and therefore "pulled a few strings" to get Junior into the role.. so he can hoodwink everyone!Kenny Dalgliesh was a footballer, Paul Dalgleish wqas pretending to be one....similar situation. Ilderton Jnr is out of his depth and is only doing the job because Daddy got it for him! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vendy18 0 Posted April 3, 2010 i wanted 2 kill him first......but dont 4 get first prize. season ticket for norwich next year.......happy killing everyone [:D] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarycol 0 Posted April 3, 2010 looks like the guy is book happy as wellhttp://www.soccerbase.com/refs2.sd?refid=646 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarycol 0 Posted April 3, 2010 WANTED FOR MASQUERADING AS A REFEREEhttp://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/09112009/8/photo/eddie-ilderton-referee.htmlNO PRICE ON HIS HEAD AS HE WAS PRICELESS LAST NIGHT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites