"Gunns Team" Radio Norfolk

[Lewie - Holt Our Saviour 0]

Sigh...

[William Darby 0]

I don''t bother with Clown Call anymore

[Howson is now! 1]

I just shouted FFS at the radio.

Who''s to say that Gunn''s lack of tactical ability would have got even half the performances Lambert is getting out of this team? Let it go.

[First Wizard 0]

Was it Gunn''s team at Carlisle?

[Mister Chops 11]

Hallo, Neil?  Tha''s Bob here. Bob Franklin.  Tha''s right, bor, the Bob Franklin...

[O.T.B.C 1]

Well our 2 best players were got by Gunn, Holt and Askou[;)]

[AJ 1,377]

[quote user="First Wizard"]

Was it Gunn''s team at Carlisle?

[/quote]Partially

[Howson is now! 1]

But it''s not Gunn''s team now. Why do people keep bringing this up when Lambert is our manager and deserves credit for what he''s done. Not people keep banging on about Gunn.

[methcanary 0]

It''s absolutely unbelievable how people can keep saying this!!!!!

[Huddy 0]

Gunns team...

Really?

Forster - Nope

Martin - Nope,  Spillane Nope, Otsemobor Yes...and when the latter plays we look dodgy!

Drury - Yes

Doherty - Yes

Askou - Not Really, Admiral Nelson was seemingly Goons choice

Smith - No

Hughes - Yes, but Russel (1st Choice No - Gunns axed him!)

Lappin - No (Not Gunny''s fave)

Hoolahan - Yes

Holt - Yes

Martin - Yes

So in summary Lamberts changed half the team, And, importantly the Formation; and got the team playing for him; something BG didnt have.

So saying its Gunns team is ridiculous!!

 

 

[Ian 1,226]

[quote user="Lewie - Holt our saviour"]Sigh...[/quote]Am I the only one who thought this was a wind up? Given the "PS. I love Delia" bit at the end!

[O.T.B.C 1]

[quote user="Huddy "]

Gunns team...

Really?

Forster - Nope

Martin - Nope,  Spillane Nope, Otsemobor Yes...and when the latter plays we look dodgy!

Drury - Yes

Doherty - Yes

Askou - Not Really, Admiral Nelson was seemingly Goons choice,  to be fair, I don''t think that Askou was fit for the 1st couple of games and he still bought him

Smith - No

Hughes - Yes, but Russel (1st Choice No - Gunns axed him!)

Lappin - No (Not Gunny''s fave)

Hoolahan - Yes

Holt - Yes

Martin - Yes

So in summary Lamberts changed half the team, And, importantly the Formation; and got the team playing for him; something BG didnt have.

So saying its Gunns team is ridiculous!!

 

 

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[Mark Smith 0]

If we follow the "Gunn''s Team" theory to it''s ridiculous conclusion, then we could say that "Lambert''s Colchester" has been doing even better than us. Until tonight, of course!

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[quote user="First Wizard"]

Was it Gunn''s team at Carlisle?

[/quote]

if it wasn''t it must have been Lambert''s tactical ability !

[Bogbrush 0]

[quote user="Huddy "]

Gunns team...

Really?

Forster - Nope

Martin - Nope,  Spillane Nope, Otsemobor Yes...and when the latter plays we look dodgy!

Drury - Yes

Doherty - Yes

Askou - Not Really, Admiral Nelson was seemingly Goons choice

Smith - No

Hughes - Yes, but Russel (1st Choice No - Gunns axed him!)

Lappin - No (Not Gunny''s fave)

Hoolahan - Yes

Holt - Yes

Martin - Yes

So in summary Lamberts changed half the team, And, importantly the Formation; and got the team playing for him; something BG didnt have.

So saying its Gunns team is ridiculous!!

 

 

[/quote]

4-0 away at Yeovil. Don''t talk bollocks mate. Yes, Lambert is doing really well and more power to his elbow but Gunn got a very raw deal for sticking to his principles - refusing to sell hoolahan, Doherty and Ruseell - bring in Holt and Hughes in particular. He deserves credit not the mindless jeering he has received on this MB. So, well done to Gunn and keep it ip Lambert.

[Yelloow Since 72 56]

I do think that Gunn deserves credit for the way he rebuilt the team after the loan debacle of last year, but Lambert has made a great job of developing both the players and the team with the diamond formation. A lot of credit should go to Culverhouse and Crook as well for an excellent training regime and developing young players into the first team. It was great to see Smith, Adeyemi and Daley all doing well tonight. Russell Martin seems a sound RB as well and he''s Lambert''s. Here''s hoping McNamee turns out to be a good''un as well!

[First Wizard 0]

[quote user="Pan Demic"][quote user="Huddy "]

Gunns team...

Really?

Forster - Nope

Martin - Nope,  Spillane Nope, Otsemobor Yes...and when the latter plays we look dodgy!

Drury - Yes

Doherty - Yes

Askou - Not Really, Admiral Nelson was seemingly Goons choice

Smith - No

Hughes - Yes, but Russel (1st Choice No - Gunns axed him!)

Lappin - No (Not Gunny''s fave)

Hoolahan - Yes

Holt - Yes

Martin - Yes

So in summary Lamberts changed half the team, And, importantly the Formation; and got the team playing for him; something BG didnt have.

So saying its Gunns team is ridiculous!!

 

 

[/quote] 4-0 away at Yeovil. Don''t talk bollocks mate. Yes, Lambert is doing really well and more power to his elbow but Gunn got a very raw deal for sticking to his principles - refusing to sell hoolahan, Doherty and Ruseell - bring in Holt and Hughes in particular. He deserves credit not the mindless jeering he has received on this MB. So, well done to Gunn and keep it ip Lambert.[/quote]

Still up Melissa?[:|]

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[quote user="CallsignViper"]But it''s not Gunn''s team now. Why do people keep bringing this up when Lambert is our manager and deserves credit for what he''s done. Not people keep banging on about Gunn.[/quote]

Yes, of course Lambert dserves credit but when Lambert isays things like Holt has done well since I have been here and the state the club was in when i took over it must rankle with many fans. Gunn started the turrnaround, was sacked unfairly and deserves considerable credit for what he did. Adie Boothroyd didn;t want the job so Gunn took it because of his loyalty to the club .That loyalty was misplaced and the club shafted him. yes, it is the past but when people stop abusing Gunn other fans will stoip reminding them what they had to be thankful for. Thanks for what you did Bryan and good luck to Lambert.

[Howson is now! 1]

So Pan Demic your post about Lambert''s tactical ability is backed up by Gunn''s tactical ability to win 6 games in 21 matches?

I don''t think Gunn should have been given the job in the first place, he''s made some good signings, I think he was treated unfairly but shouldn''t have been in the position to be treated unfairly, and am loving what Lambert is doing with this club and just wish people would let Gunn go.

[Bogbrush 0]

[quote user="CallsignViper"]So Pan Demic your post about Lambert''s tactical ability is backed up by Gunn''s tactical ability to win 6 games in 21 matches?

I don''t think Gunn should have been given the job in the first place, he''s made some good signings, I think he was treated unfairly but shouldn''t have been in the position to be treated unfairly, and am loving what Lambert is doing with this club and just wish people would let Gunn go.[/quote]

What a load of tripe. Lambert has achieved his success with Gunn''s squad. Gunn had to make do with Roeder''s legacy. No discussion needed.

[Howson is now! 1]

But see this is where the debate will go on forever Pan.

This isn''t anything personal aimed at you, but do you think that Gunn should have been given the task of trying to keep us in the Championship?

I personally don''t feel he was the right person for the job. He clearly thought he could do the job or he wouldn''t have taken it. (I personally believe this of him as I hold him in high regard)

We all know the squad that Gunn had to try and take over and that is where the board failed us in appointing him. Everyone could see that it was a near impossible task to take on so it shouldn''t have been given to someone with no managerial experience.

I don''t slag Gunn off and I think it''s always going to be a catch 22 because if people don''t stop bringing him up people won''t stop saying to let it go and vice versa. If people keep slagging him off people won''t stop saying "It''s his team etc."

[TheGoogler 614]

Sorry Pan, but I think it''s you talking b*******. Sticking to his principles and not selling Hooley, Doc and Rusty? He couldn''t give away Rusty - he was training with the U18s until Lambert arrived by all accounts. Yes, he might very well have kept Hoolahan around, but he was hardly effective under Gunn, was he?It doesn''t really matter how many times you say 4-0, Yeovil away. It doesn''t diminish the 7-1 mauling we had at Colchester''s hands. Fact of the matter is, Gunn was not tactically astute. He did not seem able to motivate players. And yes, he brought in some good players at this level. But he''s also brought in some terrible ones as well. Whaley? Theokilitis? Maric? Carney? In my opinion, this success is 100% down to Paul Lambert and with Gunn at the helm we would not be having anywhere near the level of success we are having.

[Niaga Dessip 0]

[quote user="CallsignViper"]So Pan Demic your post about Lambert''s tactical ability is backed up by Gunn''s tactical ability to win 6 games in 21 matches?.[/quote]

I don''t know enough to argue strongly either way, but it is fair to point out that nearly all of those 21 matches were in the Championship. Had they been in League 1 I presume we would have won more.

ND

[SwindonCanary 457]

I don''t think there is much doubt that Bryan Gunn made some good signings, (maybe a return to the club as a scout again ?) but the signings never ''jelled'' as a team.

[chicken 0]

[quote user="Huddy "]

Gunns team...

Really?

Forster - Nope

Martin - Nope,  Spillane Nope, Otsemobor Yes...and when the latter plays we look dodgy!

Drury - Yes

Doherty - Yes

Askou - Not Really, Admiral Nelson was seemingly Goons choice

Smith - No

Hughes - Yes, but Russel (1st Choice No - Gunns axed him!)

Lappin - No (Not Gunny''s fave)

Hoolahan - Yes

Holt - Yes

Martin - Yes

So in summary Lamberts changed half the team, And, importantly the Formation; and got the team playing for him; something BG didnt have.

So saying its Gunns team is ridiculous!!

 [/quote]

First of all the above post is incredibly wrong?!!!

Forster - Nope

Martin - Nope,  Spillane Nope, Otsemobor Nope (Peter Grant)

Drury - Nope (Worthington)

Doherty - (Worthington)

Askou - Yes

Smith - No

Hughes - Yes, but Russel (1st Choice No - Gunns axed him!)

Lappin - Yes and No, was signed by Peter Grant but left out in the cold by Roeder and Gunn brought him back him and gave him a new contract.

Hoolahan - Nope

Holt - Yes

Martin - Yes and No, was already at the club, Grant gave him his first run and pro contract, Roeder didn''t rate him and sent him out on loan and Gunn wanted him back.

Right, now we have that all sorted out I actually think the text message sent into Canary Call was infact a joke. I say that because it also said I LOVE YOU DELIA at the end of it. I think this was nothing more than a prank text that the reader didn''t correctly interprit.

[Old Shuck 300]

If Gunn supporters are going to point to the 4-0 at Yeovil as testimony to his managerial abilities, then the 1-7 is also a tribute to the same.

Plus no end of debacles last season, including the surrender at Charlton.

I fail to see the point of "...its Gunn''s team..." shouts. Whenever someone says it, I always want to add "...and? Make a follow up point, don''t just leave it hanging there!"

Is it-

1. Its Gunn''s team, this proves that he was a good Manager and should never haved been sacked?

2. Its Gunn''s team and Norwich are doing well with Lambert and Culverhouse in spite of them, not because of them?

...come on, either of the above or another?

"He should have been given more time".

Really? He took us done, led us to our most embarassing defeat in our history, one which, at half time, had players and staff at each others throats?? Players that were not fit and have all said how the training and discipline has improved since PL came in??

"He signed Grant Holt"

Well yes, look out for Bryan Wenger everyone. Holt, leading goalscorer in Div 2 last season, we''re in Div 1, can he make the MASSIVE step up, hmm, massive spot by Gunn there! A fairly safe bet he would get some goals for us.

Bob and co, let it go. He''s gone, he isn''t coming back any time soon or ever. Plus, that footballing knowledge and nous that he brought us has brought offers sweeping in from other, em, companies that market telephones, hasn''t it?

This is Lamberts team, Lamberts knowledge and the credit is Lamberts. I assume, if we were doing badly, the cries of "its Gunn''s team" would be somewhat muted?

[ZLF 342]

[quote user="Yelloow Since 72"]I do think that Gunn deserves credit for the way he rebuilt the team after the loan debacle of last year[/quote]

 

What Gunn did was bulk out the squad.  What he was unable to do, and the reason he lost his job,  was his inability to create a team or identify the tactics that would enable that squad to deliver on the pitch.

The team that has been playing under Lambert is obstensibly Roeders,  with only Askou and Holt the key additions. 6 of gunns started against Col U, with another 3 on the bench, last night there was an unusually high 3 starting with 3 as subs, none making an appearance.  Given fitness only Holt and Askou will start with Hughes the only other one likely to get regular pitch time.

Gunn had 7 months to get his game plan right and showed no signs of learning or improving.  We have made more progress in 7 weeks under lambert than the rest of the year.  Yeovils team was only transformed with the introduction of Hughes and that team only picked following alleged major backroom arguments overs gunn apparent desire to persist with Theo and Nelson in particular   

Within 2 weeks Lambert was able to mould the team from a shambles, that Gunn had 6 summers weeks to form, into a team that would not conceed and could score;  with exactly the same resources available.   There is nothing in the 7 month reign to suggest that Gunn would have ever stumbled across that winning formula.

This is Lamberts team,  built more around Roeders or even Grants squad than Gunns.   The board and ALL city fans should simply be grateful that the debacle that was the Gunn era is over (even if it was done more brutally than we would like) and not try to put a rose coloured tint on one of the most shambolic periods of decision making in the clubs history  

[macdougalls perm 0]

[quote user="Panic Dem"][quote user="Huddy "]

Gunns team...

Really?

Forster - Nope

Martin - Nope,  Spillane Nope, Otsemobor Yes...and when the latter plays we look dodgy!

Drury - Yes

Doherty - Yes

Askou - Not Really, Admiral Nelson was seemingly Goons choice

Smith - No

Hughes - Yes, but Russel (1st Choice No - Gunns axed him!)

Lappin - No (Not Gunny''s fave)

Hoolahan - Yes

Holt - Yes

Martin - Yes

So in summary Lamberts changed half the team, And, importantly the Formation; and got the team playing for him; something BG didnt have.

So saying its Gunns team is ridiculous!!

 

 

[/quote] 4-0 away at Yeovil. Don''t talk bollocks mate. Yes, Lambert is doing really well and more power to his elbow but Gunn got a very raw deal for sticking to his principles - refusing to sell hoolahan, Doherty and Ruseell - bring in Holt and Hughes in particular. He deserves credit not the mindless jeering he has received on this MB. So, well done to Gunn and keep it ip Lambert.[/quote]

The only mindless jeering he receives on this board is completely provoked by your incessant and monotonous drivel - if you could resist for once, I doubt that anyone would even be mentioning it. You''re your Dad''s worst enemy Melissa.

[Metatron 0]

100% agree with what Zipper and Old Shuck say above.

(Thank you for expressing what I could not be bothered to spend the time typing out)

[Jim Smith 2,654]

Gunn gets the very smallest amount of credit for signing Hughes, Holt and Askou but thats about it. His record in the transfer market was hit and miss really and no better than most other managers. At least half of the players he signed have proven to be utter crap. Most of us probably would have taken a punt on Grant Holt to be honest and Askou was a trialist who happened to work out.

Other than that he was hopeless and got us relegated to the lowest position most of us have seen norwich in our supporting lifetimes. I think that outwieghs any small degree of credit he gets for a couple of signings that have worked out.