40 days to go………….

[CANARYKING 708]

……….till our first League game. A hell of a lot has got to happens before then. Hope Knapper has got a little black book full of names !

[......and Smith must score. 1,600]

2 minutes ago, CANARYKING said:

……….till our first League game. A hell of a lot has got to happens before then. Hope Knapper has got a little black book full of names !

Kevin must be in pole position 😉

[CANARYKING 708]

Just now, ......and Smith must score. said:

Kevin must be in pole position 😉

Kevin who ?

[Bethnal Yellow and Green 2,424]

I'd say Norwich are one left back short of having a full squad.

Obviously there are likely to be changes with players coming and going, but I wouldn't be massively concerned if this was the squad going into the season (apart from the left back situation, even then Sorenson could be a short term stop gap).

Currently a slow window, so feel there will still be many timed finalising their squads even after the season has started, especially as Prem teams won't agree to loan deals outwards until late.

[......and Smith must score. 1,600]

3 minutes ago, ......and Smith must score. said:

Kevin must be in pole position 😉

 

2 minutes ago, CANARYKING said:

Kevin who ?

Aka Essex Canary the bane of NCFC 😉

Edited July 10 by ......and Smith must score.

[cambridgeshire canary 7,804]

Given many were convinced we would be losing Sara, McLean, Rowe and Sargent I'll take them still being here anyway.. 

[Darth Vadis 167]

Would like a new CB to partner Cordoba, a CDM and obviously a new LB

[Greavsy 2,645]

Wait for the euros to finish, then transfers / funds will start to trickle down.

It's always quiet / slow when there is a tournament on. 

[Capt. Pants 5,015]

One would hope Montoia will be given an intense pre season to be in the position to act as cover until the window slams shut.

If we want to rebuild properly then we can't have square pegs in round holes.

 

[Nuff Said 5,973]

2 hours ago, Darth Vadis said:

Would like a new CB to partner Cordoba, a CDM and obviously a new LB

I think a new CB is highly optimistic while we still have (and are paying the wages of) Duffy and Hanley. Plus all the yoof who were out on loan last season. 
 

And we all know it’s the law at NCFC that we don’t have a CDM.

 

LB - here’s hoping.

[Darth Vadis 167]

14 minutes ago, Nuff Said said:

I think a new CB is highly optimistic while we still have (and are paying the wages of) Duffy and Hanley. Plus all the yoof who were out on loan last season. 
 

And we all know it’s the law at NCFC that we don’t have a CDM.

 

LB - here’s hoping.

Oh 100%, purely a dream scenario. Was thinking we sack Duffy for the drink driving but that is obviously not going to happen. Would quite like to know what the club's internal investigation concluded...

[mannings bandy legs 439]

Obviously someone is leaving,as Mrs. Webber has stated. Needs to be done sooner than later so that replacements can be brought in and amalgamated to the squad.

The new head coach needs to have the squad he's working with from the start. Don't want to be playing catch up from day one.

[S_81 1,106]

15 minutes ago, Darth Vadis said:

Oh 100%, purely a dream scenario. Was thinking we sack Duffy for the drink driving but that is obviously not going to happen. Would quite like to know what the club's internal investigation concluded...

It should have concluded he brought the club into disrepute - which should allow them to say bye bye - but they won’t. 

[Bethnal Yellow and Green 2,424]

5 minutes ago, S_81 said:

It should have concluded he brought the club into disrepute - which should allow them to say bye bye - but they won’t. 

I imagine they won't as it would most likely lead to Duffy suing the club and almost certainly winning. The club can't just bend the rules depending on whether they like a player or not. Derby tried that with Ricard Keogh and it back fired for them massively.

Edited July 10 by Bethnal Yellow and Green

[S_81 1,106]

12 minutes ago, Bethnal Yellow and Green said:

I imagine they won't as it would most likely lead to Duffy suing the club and almost certainly winning. The club can't just bend the rules depending on whether they like a player or not. Derby tried that with Ricard Keogh and it back fired for them massively.

I don’t see why it would be bending the rules if they had the ability to do so within his contract. As indeed my employer could do within my contract due to adverse publicity. 

[Soldier on 292]

Fan forum knapper sounded like we are active and plan to be busy in and out. Takes time for deals to happen.

[Bethnal Yellow and Green 2,424]

Just now, S_81 said:

I don’t see why it would be bending the rules if they had the ability to do so within his contract. As indeed my employer could do within my contract due to adverse publicity. 

The bar for 'bringing a company into disrepute' is usually very high, a drink driving charge would almost certainly not meet such a bar. Duffy's lawyer would only have to point to the numerous other cases of footballers being caught drink driving and there is no perceived damage to the reputation of the clubs. 

Unless there is a specific clause in Duffy's contract that says he can be sacked if caught drink driving, the club would find it incredibly hard to sack him.

[S_81 1,106]

5 minutes ago, Bethnal Yellow and Green said:

The bar for 'bringing a company into disrepute' is usually very high, a drink driving charge would almost certainly not meet such a bar. Duffy's lawyer would only have to point to the numerous other cases of footballers being caught drink driving and there is no perceived damage to the reputation of the clubs. 

Unless there is a specific clause in Duffy's contract that says he can be sacked if caught drink driving, the club would find it incredibly hard to sack him.

Yeah it won’t happen. But getting slaughtered and being caught crashing into someone’s private property really should be actionable. Should transfer list him in my opinion. I agree they wouldn’t be willing to fight the battle to cancel his contract. 

Edited July 10 by S_81

[Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 4,627]

31 days to the start of the season, isn't it?

 

4 hours ago, Bethnal Yellow and Green said:

I'd say Norwich are one left back short of having a full squad.

In terms of numbers, anyway. I'm not convinced by the quality and depth of the defence, even with a new left back. 

[JonnyJonnyRowe 975]

4 hours ago, Darth Vadis said:

Would like a new CB to partner Cordoba, a CDM and obviously a new LB

But we'd need to flog people to fund this, and we'd need to replace those departing players too. A lot of work to be done. 

[Bethnal Yellow and Green 2,424]

26 minutes ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said:

31 days to the start of the season, isn't it?

 

In terms of numbers, anyway. I'm not convinced by the quality and depth of the defence, even with a new left back. 

Given the number of youth players at centre back, I can't see Norwich entering this period when youth is so focused on by bringing in a new centre back to block the pathway of 4 players. Cordoba + one of Hanley, Duffy, Hills, Tomkinson, Warner or Adegboyega will be the go to starting centre back partnership this season. It will be an interesting theme of the pre-season as to who is edging ahead. It is currently Duffy's spot to lose. 

[GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 2,035]

5 hours ago, CANARYKING said:

……….till our first League game. A hell of a lot has got to happens before then. Hope Knapper has got a little black book full of names !

Has it though?

We can still field

                 Gunn

Stacey Duffy/Hanley  Cordoba    ?

             Nunez  McLean

Rowe        Sara        Sainz

                 Sargent

This is still the team that had the 3rd ? best points total in the league since Jan 1st and finished in a playoff place

There are worse situations for a manager to walk into than this

[Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 4,627]

16 minutes ago, Bethnal Yellow and Green said:

Given the number of youth players at centre back, I can't see Norwich entering this period when youth is so focused on by bringing in a new centre back to block the pathway of 4 players. Cordoba + one of Hanley, Duffy, Hills, Tomkinson, Warner or Adegboyega will be the go to starting centre back partnership this season. It will be an interesting theme of the pre-season as to who is edging ahead. It is currently Duffy's spot to lose. 

Yeah, I can't see it either.

It doesn't allay my concerns though; Cordoba is untried in England but I reckon will be fine, but Duffy and Hanley are both past their best, and none of the youngsters have played in the Championship before (well, four games between them, I believe) and I don't think any of them have really shone above League Two level, if at all.

Hopefully one of the group has a great preseason and establishes themselves in the first team, but I'm still concerned by the depth here. 

Binning off Duffy and replacing him with a younger, more suitable style of player who is at a good Championship level would fill me with much more confidence, but would of course cost money that we don't really have.

[hogesar 10,771]

As I said in the transfer thread, I don't think there will be the huge change in players that perhaps some expected as part of a 'rebuild' season. 

I think fundamentally we're hoping that a couple of the youngsters are good enough.

[Capt. Pants 5,015]

5 hours ago, GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary said:

Has it though?

We can still field

                 Gunn

Stacey Duffy/Hanley  Cordoba    ?

             Nunez  McLean

Rowe        Sara        Sainz

                 Sargent

This is still the team that had the 3rd ? best points total in the league since Jan 1st and finished in a playoff place

There are worse situations for a manager to walk into than this

I don't think it will be but in no way is that a 1st XI for a rebuild season. We shall see.

Perhaps a few might see it as a free hit for Thorup and Knapper, but not for me, there's plenty to build on, sorry.

[Up and Away 97]

12 hours ago, GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary said:

Has it though?

We can still field

                 Gunn

Stacey Duffy/Hanley  Cordoba    ?

             Nunez  McLean

Rowe        Sara        Sainz

                 Sargent

This is still the team that had the 3rd ? best points total in the league since Jan 1st and finished in a playoff place

There are worse situations for a manager to walk into than this

Admire your optimism but financially I struggle to see how the club can afford not to sell some of the attacking players. £40m drop in revenue is going to need significant player sales to balance the books. Unless MA is going to drop a very significant investment to cover the gap but that only delays the problem. 
 

The market seems slow at the moment, especially EFL clubs selling for good fees. Although that could change after the weekend as the post Euro dominoes start to fall.

Edited July 11 by Up and Away

[(Northern) Irish Canary 48]

19 hours ago, Bethnal Yellow and Green said:

Unless there is a specific clause in Duffy's contract that says he can be sacked if caught drink driving, the club would find it incredibly hard to sack him.

Which there should be, given he has previous.