McKenna to Man U

[Nuff Said 5,973]

Fingers crossed! 😂

https://www.theguardian.com/football/article/2024/may/14/manchester-united-ponder-move-for-kieran-mckenna-if-ten-hag-departs?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

[dylanisabaddog 6,149]

United would have to be mad not to go for him but unfortunately they are. They are highly unlikely to appoint someone with no Premier League or top level European experience and will ignore the fact that their best ever manager came from Aberdeen. 

I'm not interested in United one way or the other but it is in an extraordinary mess at the moment. The attitude of some of the senior players is shocking and I suspect that McKenna would shift the likes of Fernandez, Antony and Cassimero on day 1.

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I know I shouldn’t, but I couldn’t resist a quick peak at TWTD. A few of the best:

“Build him a statue as far as I’m concerned. Even if he left us tomorrow.”

”McK will have a great managerial career ahead of him now, whatever he does.”

Two words - Paul Lambert

“IMO he’s much more likely to be approach3d by a Palace, Brentford type club, but now we’re in the Prem why would be consider leaving us for them when realistically our ceiling is higher than both those clubs?”

 

”I'm not sure he would go there even if it's offered right now.. He's got more than enough brains to see it's a poisoned chalice atm. 

Taking us from L1 to be a well-established Prem side challenging for Europe once again, would be a biggeer managerial achievement than simply stopping the further downward spiral of Utd. “        
 

Managerial achievement? More like a ******* miracle!

Edited May 15 by Nuff Said

[Capt. Pants 5,014]

To be fair they're are still buzzing after being promoted. We had similar optimism when Farke got us promoted first time. Sadly the height of our ambition was £750k on Byram.

Reality will kick in come December and they have to decide if it's worth rolling the dice to replace McKenna.

Doesn't really matter now if McKenna leaves or and arguably they could replace him with a manager with more top level experience. 

Edited May 15 by Capt. Pants

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2 minutes ago, Capt. Pants said:

To be fair they're are still buzzing after being promoted. We had similar optimism when Farke got us promoted first time. Sadly the height of our ambition was £750k on Byram.

Reality will kick in come December and they have to decide if it's worth rolling the dice to replace McKenna.

Doesn't really matter now if McKenna leaves or and arguably they could replace him with a manager with more top level experience. 

The question is: does McKenna look at what’s happened to managers like Kompany and think, I should jump now before we (1p5wich) crash and burn next season and they take me with them?

[Wings of a Sparrow 1,708]

That would be the worst move he could ever make. Unfortunately the money would set him up for life.

He should at least give it a go with Piswich next season, then we can all see what he's made of.

 

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6 minutes ago, Capt. Pants said:

Reality will kick in come December and they have to decide if it's worth rolling the dice to replace McKenna.

I dunno, they've got a similar vibe going on that we had under Lambert.  I think McKenna is the real deal and fail to see how they couldn't be 10 points better than Luton this season.

I'd rather it be an example of where we should be if they do achieve survival, than feeling bitter about it.  They're not the Ipswich of old with smarmy twats filling the team, I find it hard to dislike them in all honesty.  It's clubs like Man City that I absolutely detest nowadays.

Dare I say it, they're actually an enjoyable watch.

Edited May 15 by Google Bot

[Capt. Pants 5,014]

1 minute ago, Nuff Said said:

The question is: does McKenna look at what’s happened to managers like Kompany and think, I should jump now before we (1p5wich) crash and burn next season and they take me with them?

Of course he will. It would be extremely unlikely, highly improbable, McKenna would turn down Man Utd, despite some townsfolk thinking otherwise.

Utd need a massive rebuild but are still broadly 'top 6'. As a Head Coach they could do a lot worse but will need to improve their recruitment no end.

It will be interesting to see where Villa go from now on. Have they reached their ceiling and can challenge the likes of Spurs and Utd consistently? Next season will be massive for those 3 clubs, especially Utd.

 

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13 minutes ago, Google Bot said:

I'd rather it be an example of where we should be if they do achieve survival, than feeling bitter about it.  They're not the Ipswich of old with smarmy twats filling the team, I find it hard to dislike them in all honesty.  It's clubs like Man City that I absolutely detest nowadays.

I had this exact thought this morning on seeing the McKenna to ManU news. My first instinct was to hope that he goes and ruins Ipswich's momentum - it'd be like us selling Emi but on steroids.

But almost as soon as I had that thought, I realised how pointless it is just to hope that your rivals are going to crash and burn. As you say, if they make a decent fist of it in the Prem, that's a good sign to us that we could do likewise if we get our act together.

They'll always be our rivals, but if we treat them as an enemy, then we lose sight of the fact that our real enemies should be the corrupt, billionaire, petrostate clubs that have absolutely destroyed what used to pass for a level playing field in the top division.

So my new season's resolution is to stop caring about Ipswich (other than on derby days) and concentrate my ire where it is more deserved.

[Robert N. LiM 6,301]

Just now, Robert N. LiM said:

I had this exact thought this morning on seeing the McKenna to ManU news. My first instinct was to hope that he goes and ruins Ipswich's momentum - it'd be like us selling Emi but on steroids.

But almost as soon as I had that thought, I realised how pointless it is just to hope that your rivals are going to crash and burn. As you say, if they make a decent fist of it in the Prem, that's a good sign to us that we could do likewise if we get our act together.

They'll always be our rivals, but if we treat them as an enemy, then we lose sight of the fact that our real enemies should be the corrupt, billionaire, petrostate clubs that have absolutely destroyed what used to pass for a level playing field in the top division.

So my new season's resolution is to stop caring about Ipswich (other than on derby days) and concentrate my ire where it is more deserved.

Binner

Edited May 15 by Robert N. LiM
just thought I'd save everyone the trouble

[Capt. Pants 5,014]

10 minutes ago, Google Bot said:

I dunno, they've got a similar vibe going on that we had under Lambert.  I think McKenna is the real deal and fail to see how they couldn't be 10 points better than Luton this season.

I'd rather it be an example of where we should be if they do achieve survival, than feeling bitter about it.  They're not the Ipswich of old with smarmy twats filling the team, I find it hard to dislike them in all honesty.  It's clubs like Man City that I absolutely detest nowadays.

Dare I say it, they're actually an enjoyable watch.

I know what you're saying. I guess the unknown quantity for them and their fans is what return their investors want going forward and how vital EPL football is too them.

Don't want to go OT but what I've seen of them this season the results, drama and persistence are actually better than the performances. Similar to us with Lambert.

 

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5 minutes ago, Robert N. LiM said:

Binner

Yeah, I read your post and thought my head agrees with you. But every other fibre in my body says screw ‘em!
 

I so want them to rival Derby’s record next year, especially if we pass them going up (I’m not feeling confident about Thursday!).

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15 minutes ago, Nuff Said said:

Yeah, I read your post and thought my head agrees with you. But every other fibre in my body says screw ‘em!
 

I so want them to rival Derby’s record next year, especially if we pass them going up (I’m not feeling confident about Thursday!).

I've decided I'm going to happily have it both ways. Will laugh my head off if they fail (McKenna to ManU, finishing bottom, breaking Derby's record) - and will just choose to see it as an example to us if they succeed.

If it's the latter, we'll see how successful I am - but that's the plan.

[ZLF 335]

As for when he joined tahn it's prob a good time to join ineos; at a nadir under edt, fresh loud active investors who haven't done too well with other team take overs but want Their Man at the helm. Just the europa conference league as a diversion as the squad is decimated and rebuilt and a seasons leeway.    But Thomas Franke seems a more viable option tbh.

 

Why we have a thread about it is a mystery though its like some are obsessed, and I know I commented

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The thing is all this positivity towards McKenna will quickly go with the Binner is they don’t win any of their guest ten games and their board won’t think twice of sacking him if they see an opportunity of a experienced manager if he doesn’t start well!

Hope he doesn’t jump to be honest because Burnley are a far better side and set up and manager still got relegated!

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2 hours ago, Capt. Pants said:

Of course he will. It would be extremely unlikely, highly improbable, McKenna would turn down Man Utd, despite some townsfolk thinking otherwise.

Utd need a massive rebuild but are still broadly 'top 6'. As a Head Coach they could do a lot worse but will need to improve their recruitment no end.

It will be interesting to see where Villa go from now on. Have they reached their ceiling and can challenge the likes of Spurs and Utd consistently? Next season will be massive for those 3 clubs, especially Utd.

 

Oh, I completely agree if Man U did come in for him, although I do think it’s unlikely. But from the little I read on TWTD it seems from comments he’s made, he seriously considered the offer from Palace before turning it down. There are a few other clubs rumoured to be looking at him, depending on what happens over the summer - Brentford, Brighton might have vacancies. Now might be a good time to move on to any PL club with more resources than 1p5wich, which lets face it is all of them (unless we go up ☹️).

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It would be a huge gamble for Man Utd to go for McKenna. He may turn out to be the best manager the Earth has ever seen but the Old Trafford job is huge.

They’ll want to go for an experienced ‘sexy ‘ type who’s been there done that.

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31 minutes ago, ......and Smith must score. said:

It would be a huge gamble for Man Utd to go for McKenna. He may turn out to be the best manager the Earth has ever seen but the Old Trafford job is huge.

They’ll want to go for an experienced ‘sexy ‘ type who’s been there done that.

Sounds like everyone they've appointed since Ferguson. They never learn but it's very funny hearing their fans desperately telling everyone it's the biggest club in the world. Best not to mention Real Madrid to them, they get a bit confused. 

[Robert N. LiM 6,301]

2 minutes ago, dylanisabaddog said:

They never learn but it's very funny hearing their fans desperately telling everyone it's the biggest club in the world.

For the best club in the world, they spend a remarkable amount of time being shıt.

[hogesar 10,770]

3 hours ago, Robert N. LiM said:

I had this exact thought this morning on seeing the McKenna to ManU news. My first instinct was to hope that he goes and ruins Ipswich's momentum - it'd be like us selling Emi but on steroids.

But almost as soon as I had that thought, I realised how pointless it is just to hope that your rivals are going to crash and burn. As you say, if they make a decent fist of it in the Prem, that's a good sign to us that we could do likewise if we get our act together.

They'll always be our rivals, but if we treat them as an enemy, then we lose sight of the fact that our real enemies should be the corrupt, billionaire, petrostate clubs that have absolutely destroyed what used to pass for a level playing field in the top division.

So my new season's resolution is to stop caring about Ipswich (other than on derby days) and concentrate my ire where it is more deserved.

See, I hope Ipswich break the record lowest points tally by a big margin, McKenna calls out the fans for not being good enough, 3 of the players start fighting during a 12-0 collapse to Bournemouth, the Premier League make an example with a unprecedented fine of £1.5 billion, those within the pension fund scheme of the owners want blood, they go into administration, have to leave Portman Road and play on Ipswich High School's football pitch in the Suffolk Girls' & Women's League (did I mention, the entire squad are so scarred from the events of the season they have gender-changing surgery).

But I respect your maturity

Edited May 15 by hogesar

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1 hour ago, hogesar said:

See, I hope Ipswich break the record lowest points tally by a big margin, McKenna calls out the fans for not being good enough, 3 of the players start fighting during a 12-0 collapse to Bournemouth, the Premier League make an example with a unprecedented fine of £1.5 billion, those within the pension fund scheme of the owners want blood, they go into administration, have to leave Portman Road and play on Ipswich High School's football pitch in the Suffolk Girls' & Women's League (did I mention, the entire squad are so scarred from the events of the season they have gender-changing surgery).

But I respect your maturity

I had that dream too😊

Extraordinary as it may seem, it could happen. 

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5 hours ago, ......and Smith must score. said:

It would be a huge gamble for Man Utd to go for McKenna. He may turn out to be the best manager the Earth has ever seen but the Old Trafford job is huge.

They’ll want to go for an experienced ‘sexy ‘ type who’s been there done that.

That's their problem - who would take that job, especially now working under the micro management of Radcliffe. Ancelotti is the stand out candidate if there is one but why would he take it? Maybe de Zerbi and if so, McKenna will go to Brighton.

[Graham Paddons Beard 2,791]

No chance 

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32 minutes ago, sgncfc said:

Maybe de Zerbi and if so, McKenna will go to Brighton.

This is more possible. 

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5 hours ago, hogesar said:

See, I hope Ipswich break the record lowest points tally by a big margin, McKenna calls out the fans for not being good enough, 3 of the players start fighting during a 12-0 collapse to Bournemouth, the Premier League make an example with a unprecedented fine of £1.5 billion, those within the pension fund scheme of the owners want blood, they go into administration, have to leave Portman Road and play on Ipswich High School's football pitch in the Suffolk Girls' & Women's League (did I mention, the entire squad are so scarred from the events of the season they have gender-changing surgery).

But I respect your maturity

To paraphrase "When Harry met Sally" - "I'll have what you're having."

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If McKenna has any sense he'll jump at the first established PL job or he risks becoming Farke, Kompany etc etc. The likelihood is Ipswich will get relegated and the fans will start to turn. It is entirely possible that within three years he could be scratching around for any job he can get aka Paul Lambert.

If he gets out now for the right job, he suddenly becomes a proper PL manager and not someone who is in the PL but just trying to survive.

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50 minutes ago, Worthy Nigelton said:

If he gets out now for the right job, he suddenly becomes a proper PL manager and not someone who is in the PL but just trying to survive.

If you fall from a job like United you've got many branches to grab before hitting the ground too.

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12 hours ago, Worthy Nigelton said:

If McKenna has any sense he'll jump at the first established PL job or he risks becoming Farke, Kompany etc etc. The likelihood is Ipswich will get relegated and the fans will start to turn. It is entirely possible that within three years he could be scratching around for any job he can get aka Paul Lambert.

If he gets out now for the right job, he suddenly becomes a proper PL manager and not someone who is in the PL but just trying to survive.

True.

Discounting his previous connection with the club, is anyone really doubting except for some Binners of course that if given the choice between continuing with little Ipswich Town and moving on to manage one of the world's giants, McKenna would pause for even a moment to make his decision?

I suspect Man. U's shirt sales worldwide alone outstrip the value of the Loo's home gates throughout the entire season.

Manchester United's owners have to consider with the same old and pluck a well-know manager from the roundabout or go for a clean sweep. Southgate seems to be at odds with this though and might well be the biggest obstacle to appointing McKenna.

I don't see the latter being too popular at Old Trafford initially, though, and feel that he will need to bring some sort of instant success at a club where reaching (and probably losing) an FA Cup final is not considered enough.

I suspect McKenna might be given more time.

The fortunes of ITFC hang precariously in the hands of the decision makers at Old Trafford.😁

Edited May 16 by BroadstairsR

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15 hours ago, sgncfc said:

That's their problem - who would take that job, especially now working under the micro management of Radcliffe. Ancelotti is the stand out candidate if there is one but why would he take it? Maybe de Zerbi and if so, McKenna will go to Brighton.

Surely if ancelotti is available then that's the rightful successor to McKenna? Because with the blue and white giants being back in the PL and fighting for Europe automatically as is their right as a footballing powerhouse, you know those stars don't lie, why on earth would ancelotti not jump at the chance at managing such a prestigious historic club, he'll be everyone's second favorite manager, be able to see what real riches are, see some proper trophies made out of real metal that hasn't rusted in the last 50/60 years, absolutely outstanding craftmenship, not those new sparkling ones at the bernabeu that are probably made out of foil. 

Honestly it really is just the natural progression of giant management. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Edited May 16 by GodlyOtsemobor
Added the emoji so those on here who can't grasp sarcasm don't all shout Binner at once.

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23 hours ago, Google Bot said:

I dunno, they've got a similar vibe going on that we had under Lambert.  I think McKenna is the real deal and fail to see how they couldn't be 10 points better than Luton this season.

I'd rather it be an example of where we should be if they do achieve survival, than feeling bitter about it.  They're not the Ipswich of old with smarmy twats filling the team, I find it hard to dislike them in all honesty.  It's clubs like Man City that I absolutely detest nowadays.

Dare I say it, they're actually an enjoyable watch.

Agree with this.

If next season in the Premier is anything like this season then 30 points would see you safe (years ago the holy grail was 40), you would have thought under McKenna Ippo would be able to achieve that.

The only bit I do not agree with is that Ippo are an enjoyable watch (assuming you are talking about how they play football), admittedly I only saw them play once this season but I thought they were pants 😀..............