Branston Pickle 3,684 Posted December 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, hogesar said: ย ย I dont work for the club ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ That wonโt wash. Of course youโd deny itโฆ ย ย 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Worthy Nigelton 1,063 Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) My feelings on Delia are pretty mixed. I think she'sย a nice person who genuinely cares about the club. I can also confidently say she would never leave NCFC in the lurch like some mercenary owners have/would. She has also seen a relatively successful period, althoughย nothing special.ย She hasn't interfered particularly in the workings of the club and has let the football people get on with it, which is what you want from an owner. BUT, and this is a big but, I also think she has used the club as a social outlet for her and her friends and family, and in many respects hasn't had the club's best interest at heart.ย Ratherย its been a nice thing for her to do in her senior years,ย although I think she's convinced herself (and some on here) that this has all been selfless. I don't buy that one jot. She's loved being the owner and she has made good money on the asset whilst having a good time along the way.ย Ultimately, the club isn't her toy. It belongs to the fans and to the city. In reality it was time for her to go about 7 or 8 years ago and she didn't. That was for selfish reasons in my opinion, not because the 'right' person wasn'tย available. If you want to sell the club, you can and there are plenty of responsible owners out there.ย She should be remembered as someone who saved the club in its darkest hour, loved the club and oversaw some fun times.ย For that, I'm thankful and we all should be to a degree, but the staunch defenders are cherry-picking all her best bits and closing their eyes to some of the less-good parts. Equally the same applies to those berating her.ย Edited December 2, 2023 by Worthy Nigelton 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,684 Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Graham Paddons Beard said: โOneโ isnโt โmanyโ is it ?ย โOne too manyโ however seems more than a little appropriate given the recent interview.ย ย Wow, that went right over your head, didnโt it. Thereโs plentyย on โXโ slating Delia and going over the top. I really donโt get why youโd deliberately misunderstand the simple point made, but itโs your life and you can do what you want.ย Edited December 2, 2023 by Branston Pickle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GodlyOtsemobor 2,379 Posted December 2, 2023 14 minutes ago, hogesar said: ย ย I dont work for the club ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ That's just something that someone who was employed by the club would say though isn't it ๐ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Commonsense 641 Posted December 2, 2023 5 hours ago, Keith Scott said: The OP is the embodiment of every thing that is wrong with this football club. And has been for a long time. All the best. Big Keith Scott. ย Whereas binners like you are clearly what we need more of! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Commonsense 641 Posted December 2, 2023 2 hours ago, S_81 said: You also have to question why you leap to the defence of these people to the degree that you do every time. Vested interest perhapsย Or why your near 400 posts have never contained a single positive comment. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keith Scott 245 Posted December 2, 2023 Did someone say 'binner'......... All the best. Big Keith Scott. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S_81 841 Posted December 2, 2023 14 minutes ago, Commonsense said: Or why your near 400 posts have never contained a single positive comment. Not toward you they sure havenโtย Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Commonsense 641 Posted December 2, 2023 1 minute ago, S_81 said: Not toward you they sure havenโtย Thatโs certainly a relief.! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,736 Posted December 2, 2023 23 minutes ago, GodlyOtsemobor said: That's just something that someone who was employed by the club would say though isn't it ๐ I mean by all accounts you've got me there...and I was doing so well. I am Neil Adams. Apologies for taking over from Hughton at the end of that prem season and giving Josh Murphy 10 minutes at the end of every game as my one tactic. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB 1,037 Posted December 2, 2023 3 hours ago, hogesar said: She called them moaners, if you think it's important to be that pedantic about it. And to be pedantic even further, she said those fans questioning the governance do not know the amount of inside workings within the football club. Certainly not the answer I'd have gone with as it doesn't help but equally I doubt she's that wrong. Again, her comments aren't ideal but anyone calling her and old cow / hag or anything similar need to take a long look at themselves. I do not think it is important, but you are usually a stickler for accuracy........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,736 Posted December 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB said: I do not think it is important, but you are usually a stickler for accuracy........ Yeah it's typically quite important when posters make big judgment calls. In the context of if calling an old woman a cow and a hag is appropriate based on if she called them either whingers or moaners....I'm not so sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB 1,037 Posted December 2, 2023 1 minute ago, hogesar said: I mean by all accounts you've got me there...and I was doing so well. I am Neil Adams. Apologies for taking over from Hughton at the end of that prem season and giving Josh Murphy 10 minutes at the end of every game as my one tactic. Oh and I never condoned the name calling (just to be pedantic and accurate), I just said that picking a fight with the fans is a big mistake so you need to have an argument with somebody else about that subject......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB 1,037 Posted December 2, 2023 1 minute ago, hogesar said: Yeah it's typically quite important when posters make big judgment calls. In the context of if calling an old woman a cow and a hag is appropriate based on if she called them either whingers or moaners....I'm not so sure. But if you are going to correct people about what was said in the AGM/in an interview etc then you need to be consistent, the moment you start getting things wrong you are just the same as the people you correct.......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Making Plans 940 Posted December 2, 2023 I guess the 20% would roughly equate, on a good day, the the fans who travel to away games. I would suggest that these people are likely to be, home and away, our most loyal, vocal and fervant fans. Their expenditure outlay in going to these games, as well as home games, is far more than that of those who only go to home games. Quite rightly, the away contingent are fully justified in venting their feelings if, after spending a lot of momey and a lot of time to support the Club they love, what they see on the pitch is unacceptable. For reasons we can all appreciate, this has been quite evident at Watford and other away venues this season. It could therefore be deducted that by identifying the 20% as being the problem boo boys, what Delia has actually done is to lay the blame at the door of our most loyal, and vocal, supporters whilst the 80%, who only ever turn up at Carrow Road, and neither cheer, shout, sing, or boo, are apparently just the sort of supporters she likes. ย ย Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,607 Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Worthy Nigelton said: My feelings on Delia are pretty mixed. I think she'sย a nice person who genuinely cares about the club. I can also confidently say she would never leave NCFC in the lurch like some mercenary owners have/would. She has also seen a relatively successful period, althoughย nothing special.ย She hasn't interfered particularly in the workings of the club and has let the football people get on with it, which is what you want from an owner. BUT, and this is a big but, I also think she has used the club as a social outlet for her and her friends and family, and in many respects hasn't had the club's best interest at heart.ย Ratherย its been a nice thing for her to do in her senior years,ย although I think she's convinced herself (and some on here) that this has all been selfless. I don't buy that one jot. She's loved being the owner and she has made good money on the asset whilst having a good time along the way.ย Ultimately, the club isn't her toy. It belongs to the fans and to the city. In reality it was time for her to go about 7 or 8 years ago and she didn't. That was for selfish reasons in my opinion, not because the 'right' person wasn'tย available. If you want to sell the club, you can and there are plenty of responsible owners out there.ย She should be remembered as someone who saved the club in its darkest hour, loved the club and oversaw some fun times.ย For that, I'm thankful and we all should be to a degree, but the staunch defenders are cherry-picking all her best bits and closing their eyes to some of the less-good parts. Equally the same applies to those berating her.ย I think as SOB said accuracy and truth is important. How has 'she' made good money? Michael and Delia are about 11m out of pocket.ย Have they had offers to sell their shares? I'm not sure. Do we want them to sell them now? I think not for what the shares are worth would be the popular answer. Edited December 2, 2023 by nutty nigel 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 1,800 Posted December 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Harry53 said: How do you suggest they stand down? Who will buy their shares? It's not that simple I'm suggesting that the process of the transaction of their shares is hastened so they are no longer majority/equal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Worthy Nigelton 1,063 Posted December 2, 2023 1 minute ago, nutty nigel said: I think as SOB said accuracy and truth is important. How has 'she' made good money? Michael and Delia are about 11m out of pocket.ย Have they had offers to sell their shares? I'm not sure. Do we want them to sell them now? I think not for what the shares are worth would be the popular answer. They're ยฃ11m in the hole even after the value of their shares is taken into account? If that is true I stand corrected, but I would be literally amazed if it is. If Ipswich in League One for the third season in a row, with the situation they were inย was worth ยฃ35m it seems implausible that we would be worth considerably less than that.ย Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,276 Posted December 2, 2023 The 80/20 rule is a good sensecheck at times, providing you get them the right way round, which Smith clearly hasn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,607 Posted December 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Worthy Nigelton said: They're ยฃ11m in the hole even after the value of their shares is taken into account? If that is true I stand corrected, but I would be literally amazed if it is. If Ipswich in League One for the third season in a row, with the situation they were inย was worth ยฃ35m it seems implausible that we would be worth considerably less than that.ย Are you saying they should walk away with the proceeds of those shares? It's a noble thought but not one shared by many or I doubt in any plans. I'd settle for that. Sell them for what they're worth and, as a gesture to the 20%, give a fifth to the CSF. All those in favour? ย Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Worthy Nigelton 1,063 Posted December 2, 2023 Just now, nutty nigel said: Are you saying they should walk away with the proceeds of those shares? It's a noble thought but not one shared by many or I doubt in any plans. I'd settle for that. Sell them for what they're worth and, as a gesture to the 20%, give a fifth to the CSF. All those in favour? ย I wouldn't expect them to walk away for free, no. They should walk away with what the shares are worth if that's what they want, if they want to show how noble they are then the fee should be enough to wipe out what they've lost over the years and a token amount more. Ultimately that is up to them.ย Nobodyย thinks they should walk away for free... do they?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,607 Posted December 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Worthy Nigelton said: I wouldn't expect them to walk away for free, no. They should walk away with what the shares are worth if that's what they want, if they want to show how noble they are then the fee should be enough to wipe out what they've lost over the years and a token amount more. Ultimately that is up to them.ย Nobodyย thinks they should walk away for free... do they?! You'd be surprised what people think. It ranges from your belief they've made money to Delia being a binner to Delia tried to invest in the binners but Sheepshanks turned her down even that she spent the Bellamy transfer fee in catering improvements. Truth has never been the strong suit of her critics on here. And the fact it's always 'she' speaks volumes. ย 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkngood 1,087 Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) ย Classic Deliaย Poor Stuart walked out of the door he had no idea the fans were demonstratingย and has never heard such languageย ( as he was pushed back insideย arguing doing a obscene gesture to the fans by his wife ! ) Edited December 2, 2023 by norfolkngood Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 4,073 Posted December 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, norfolkngood said: ย Classic Deliaย Poor Stuart walked out of the door he had no idea the fans were demonstratingย and has never heard such languageย ( as he was pushed inside back doing a obscene gesture to the fans by his wife ! ) Iโve heard worse language when kids are playing football at primary school.ย Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkngood 1,087 Posted December 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Midlands Yellow said: Iโve heard worse language when kids are playing football at primary school.ย Iโve heard worse languageย from teachers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Worthy Nigelton 1,063 Posted December 2, 2023 29 minutes ago, nutty nigel said: You'd be surprised what people think. It ranges from your belief they've made money to Delia being a binner to Delia tried to invest in the binners but Sheepshanks turned her down even that she spent the Bellamy transfer fee in catering improvements. Truth has never been the strong suit of her critics on here. And the fact it's always 'she' speaks volumes. ย They have made money on the asset. What has 'she' got to do with anything? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S_81 841 Posted December 2, 2023 29 minutes ago, nutty nigel said: You'd be surprised what people think. It ranges from your belief they've made money to Delia being a binner to Delia tried to invest in the binners but Sheepshanks turned her down even that she spent the Bellamy transfer fee in catering improvements. Truth has never been the strong suit of her critics on here. And the fact it's always 'she' speaks volumes. ย The fact itโs always โsheโ. Have a day off, FFS. Would you rather she was referred to as they?ย Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Feedthewolf 4,871 Posted December 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, norfolkngood said: Iโve heard worse languageย from teachers I've heard worse language from twats. (Sorry, that's a callback to another thread from earlier.) 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratton canary 134 Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Mello Yello said: A very good call....now....Red or White or maybe a Sherry or Port?.... Delia Say's a pint of each please!ย Edited December 2, 2023 by stratton canary 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Paddons Beard 2,449 Posted December 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Branston Pickle said: Wow, that went right over your head, didnโt it. Thereโs plentyย on โXโ slating Delia and going over the top. I really donโt get why youโd deliberately misunderstand the simple point made, but itโs your life and you can do what you want.ย Ha ha . Thatโs great Branston . Itโs my life . That got to be the best put down Iโve ever heard. ย Put me right in my place .ย Enjoy X by the way. I. Have no idea what that is but it sounds great.ย ย Share this post Link to post Share on other sites