Myra Hawtree 124 Posted March 12, 2023 72% possession! 17 shots - 5 on target. Sunderland 11 and 5. Corners Norwich 8 to 3. Fouls Norwich 13 to 21 by Sunderland. How did we lose??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duncan Edwards 2,245 Posted March 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Myra Hawtree said: 72% possession! 17 shots - 5 on target. Sunderland 11 and 5. Corners Norwich 8 to 3. Fouls Norwich 13 to 21 by Sunderland. How did we lose??? They scored. We didn’t. *smiley face* 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 4,760 Posted March 12, 2023 What was the xg ? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,261 Posted March 12, 2023 Sunderland missed 2 more good chances that were far better than what we created. Much of our first half possession was across the back and sideways. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 6,753 Posted March 12, 2023 We lost as we were not the better team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
overthebordercanary 142 Posted March 12, 2023 Safe passing screws the possession stats wildly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shefcanary 2,432 Posted March 12, 2023 5 hours ago, Myra Hawtree said: 72% possession! 17 shots - 5 on target. Sunderland 11 and 5. Corners Norwich 8 to 3. Fouls Norwich 13 to 21 by Sunderland. How did we lose??? Grant Hanley! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Don’t be Krul 399 Posted March 12, 2023 Only one stat that counts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PockthorpePete 331 Posted March 12, 2023 6 hours ago, Myra Hawtree said: 72% possession! 17 shots - 5 on target. Sunderland 11 and 5. Corners Norwich 8 to 3. Fouls Norwich 13 to 21 by Sunderland. How did we lose??? A question that highlights the irrelevance of those numbers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mengo 825 Posted March 12, 2023 8 hours ago, Duncan Edwards said: They scored. We didn’t. *smiley face* Simple ✅️💥 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canary Jedi 579 Posted March 12, 2023 8 hours ago, Myra Hawtree said: 72% possession! 17 shots - 5 on target. Sunderland 11 and 5. Corners Norwich 8 to 3. Fouls Norwich 13 to 21 by Sunderland. How did we lose??? 68% of that 72% was inside our own penalty area… 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AJ 1,224 Posted March 12, 2023 2 hours ago, PockthorpePete said: A question that highlights the irrelevance of those numbers. Not strictly true, as I would imagine statistically if you consider all the football league games this weekend, more often than not the team with the most possession and shots would have won. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
essex canary 497 Posted March 13, 2023 10 hours ago, AJ said: Not strictly true, as I would imagine statistically if you consider all the football league games this weekend, more often than not the team with the most possession and shots would have won. Then along came Norwich. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,624 Posted March 13, 2023 There was a stat mentioned by Sky that I hadn't heard of before that I think they called 'field tilt' basically how much of each teams touches were happening in the final third. Sunderland had less of the ball but when they had it they got it into dangerous areas, we had lots of passing around the halfway line. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chicken 2,637 Posted March 13, 2023 Sunderland came with a game plan and stuck to it. They were well organised, well drilled and knew they were never going to have the dominance of possession. Sometimes stats can be misleading. Shots just mean attempts at goal. If you prevent teams getting into your box much, those shots are largely going to be from longer distances which means the chances of them turning into goals will be smaller than shots in the box. The keeper has a longer time to see them coming and to make the save and they have to be hit with more power and accuracy to beat them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
It's Character Forming 1,164 Posted March 13, 2023 I'm shocked no one has mentioned xG. I've googled it and on infogol it is saying xG was 0.94 to 1.03. So effectively xG calls it as a draw. Which ties in with my perception from watching that it was actually in the end quite even in terms of chances created. Partly this was because Sunderland grew more defensive as the game wore on and towards the end it was almost defence vs attack with occasional breakaways aiming for the corners. Of course, xG doesn't capture our rather listless play in the box (and generally TBF), taking too many touches, shooting directly at the keeper etc. I'm sure a lot of people will be glad to hear the xG outcome for the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
essex canary 497 Posted March 14, 2023 20 hours ago, chicken said: Sunderland came with a game plan and stuck to it. They were well organised, well drilled and knew they were never going to have the dominance of possession. Sometimes stats can be misleading. Shots just mean attempts at goal. If you prevent teams getting into your box much, those shots are largely going to be from longer distances which means the chances of them turning into goals will be smaller than shots in the box. The keeper has a longer time to see them coming and to make the save and they have to be hit with more power and accuracy to beat them. XG needs to be refined. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 5,147 Posted March 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, essex canary said: XG needs to be refined. It has been and I would assume it will be again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AJ 1,224 Posted March 14, 2023 On 12/03/2023 at 14:38, Myra Hawtree said: 72% possession! 17 shots - 5 on target. Sunderland 11 and 5. Corners Norwich 8 to 3. Fouls Norwich 13 to 21 by Sunderland. How did we lose??? Looks like the stats of a FM match just before I rage quit 😂 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
repman 635 Posted March 14, 2023 6 hours ago, essex canary said: XG needs to be refined. The xG was about even for the game which seems right to me. Half of their xG was from the chance they had just after they had scored. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
