GodlyOtsemobor 2,309 Posted January 14, 2023 1 minute ago, mrdi said: Never mind all that, WHERE’S HOOGUL? On his way to sign for someone else is my guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Hairy 3,772 Posted January 14, 2023 No mug Buh 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Budapest Canary 152 Posted January 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Capt. Pants said: Especially from a corner I see this happening. Probably in the form of an own-goal. 😉😂 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pete 319 Posted January 14, 2023 Had a mug at his presser, see you tube NCFC. A nice white one no logo's Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrdi 373 Posted January 14, 2023 1 minute ago, GodlyOtsemobor said: On his way to sign for someone else is my guess. Injured. Facial injury. Too much furious chewing. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GodlyOtsemobor 2,309 Posted January 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Ken Hairy said: No mug Buh Bet that's coffee and not Tea too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,234 Posted January 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, mrdi said: Never mind all that, WHERE’S HOOGUL? He's talking to other clubs. Wagner obviously seen enough in training. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chicken 2,624 Posted January 14, 2023 22 minutes ago, Creedence Clearwater Couto said: I can see why Krul is back in. Wagner wants the experience and leadership qualities. As good as Gunn seems to have been, the team’s performances have been poor since he came in for Krul. Nope. The teams performances were poor before Gunn came in. Nothing to do with him, that's certain. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 6,717 Posted January 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, Ken Hairy said: No mug Buh Hand.In.Pocket Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real Buh 3,432 Posted January 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, Ken Hairy said: No mug Buh This is how you do it everybody. Take note! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chicken 2,624 Posted January 14, 2023 With Hernandez starting, it'll be interesting to see if it's a diamond or 4-3-3. Hernandez is a natural winger, if he's starting, you'd not expect to see him as one of two CM in a diamond. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alex_ncfc 662 Posted January 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, chicken said: Nope. The teams performances were poor before Gunn came in. Nothing to do with him, that's certain. Yeah, nothing to do with him at all 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GodlyOtsemobor 2,309 Posted January 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, chicken said: Nope. The teams performances were poor before Gunn came in. Nothing to do with him, that's certain. This... And Gunn was brought in to replace Krul eventually we can't hang on to people forever, we have to move past people and move forward with younger replacements! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,203 Posted January 14, 2023 32 minutes ago, lake district canary said: That team is only going to work if we are high up the pitch a lot of the time. Dowell is not a good tracker back, he is just not sharp enough with his slightly languid style so can see us getting turned over on the break quite easily. Hernandez and Sargent going to have to do a lot of running back to compensate..... Lakey we have something in common we were both saying on an earlier thread it would be no surprise to see Krul return. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chicken 2,624 Posted January 14, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, alex_ncfc said: Yeah, nothing to do with him at all Ahhh, sorry. I didn't realise this was the "find a new scapegoat" thread. I'm sure it's his fault Hanley and Gibson have given goals away, or that our midfield has failed to really screen our back for AND create chances. I utterly forgot that the goalkeeper is responsible for all of those things. Not to mention this requires us to dismiss the "in a false position" argument. So yup. Nope. But by all means, blame Gunn for Pukki not taking his chances if you want. Edited January 14, 2023 by chicken 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 6,717 Posted January 14, 2023 anyone know the formation? Pukki and Sargent two up top with Hernandez and Dowell on the wings I assume? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ron obvious 1,502 Posted January 14, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, alex_ncfc said: Yeah, nothing to do with him at all Well that's 15-14 conceded in Krul's favour. Statistically insignificant I really don't think you can make a case that Krul is the better goalkeeper - as a goalkeeper. But I take your point that he may be a better leader & organiser, & that may well be the decisive factor for Wagner. Edited January 14, 2023 by ron obvious 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GodlyOtsemobor 2,309 Posted January 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, alex_ncfc said: Yeah, nothing to do with him at all Ah yes the old 'we lost so must be the keepers fault' You do realize there's 10 players in front of either of them right? A keeper is the last line of defense, if you have decent protection in front of you, you win more games, if those in front of you are fecking it up every game, there's no way you can stop everything all by yourself. Yes keepers keep teams in games with saves etc. But they definitely don't win or lose games all by themselves. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alex_ncfc 662 Posted January 14, 2023 1 minute ago, GodlyOtsemobor said: Ah yes the old 'we lost so must be the keepers fault' You do realize there's 10 players in front of either of them right? A keeper is the last line of defense, if you have decent protection in front of you, you win more games, if those in front of you are fecking it up every game, there's no way you can stop everything all by yourself. Yes keepers keep teams in games with saves etc. But they definitely don't win or lose games all by themselves. If you read my previous posts in this thread I said it's not to say it's all his fault. But he is a factor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,395 Posted January 14, 2023 Wuss gorn on? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kanadyan Kanary 121 Posted January 14, 2023 If Dean Smith had picked this side, he'd be sacked.😕 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real Buh 3,432 Posted January 14, 2023 Just now, ricardo said: Wuss gorn on? We’ve confirmed Wagner is not a ceramic mug on the touchline man so, for me, we’ve won this game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alex_ncfc 662 Posted January 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, chicken said: Ahhh, sorry. I didn't realise this was the "find a new scapegoat" thread. I'm sure it's his fault Hanley and Gibson have given goals away, or that our midfield has failed to really screen our back for AND create chances. I utterly forgot that the goalkeeper is responsible for all of those things. Not to mention this requires us to dismiss the "in a false position" argument. So yup. Nope. But by all means, blame Gunn for Pukki not taking his chances if you want. The goalkeeper can't do it all himself but he is the last line of defence, and the scorelines and form since Gunn came in have been abysmal. Maybe, just maybe, Krul is better at organising and leadership. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FenwayFrank 2,459 Posted January 14, 2023 Is there a mug equivalent of xg? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chicken 2,624 Posted January 14, 2023 1 minute ago, FenwayFrank said: Is there a mug equivalent of xg? EOG? Expected Own Goal? KOD - keep on digging? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,395 Posted January 14, 2023 1 minute ago, FenwayFrank said: Is there a mug equivalent of xg? Yes oxo nice in a mug 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kenfoggo 247 Posted January 14, 2023 Has anyone seen anything from Dowell this season which would warrant his inclusion in this squad? He really needs to step up and stop hiding. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barham Blitz 653 Posted January 14, 2023 27 minutes ago, Robert N. LiM said: I assume Dowell will be on the right in a 4-4-2. (My midfield is upside down!) The bigger question for me is why Onel is starting. Otherwise it could be Wagner's 4-2-2-2 formation. Dowell wide in a 4-4-2 is just weird. Onel wide in a diamond is even weirder.... Be interesting to see how it pans out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real Buh 3,432 Posted January 14, 2023 What I like about this disposable mug from Wagner is it’s just a generic brown cup. Nothing fancy, no Starbucks or whatever. He’s picked that up on the way out of the hotel or something, it’s probably Kenco, not even fancy kenco, normal Kenco. Proves he’s a man of the people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Hairy 3,772 Posted January 14, 2023 Is that a techno version of Belinda Carlisle I can hear the Preston sound system playing?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites