MOTD - so lazy!!!

[The Real Buh 3,444]

 

5 minutes ago, Ken Hairy said:

Netflix at a tenner a month (less if you choose the single device option) or the illegally enforced cost for the BBC, its not even a close race. Someone mentioned 43p a day for your TV license, it's a rip off at that but either way it shouldn't be enforced to be able to watch non BBC terrestrial channels.

I'll be glad in a few years when it's abolished. 

Can’t remember Netflix trying to put old ladies in jail either?

or re-write a history of child abuse from Jimmy Saville in a New drama after spending decade actively helping him and others abuse children….

Edited February 6, 2022 by The Real Buh

[hertfordyellow 460]

Just now, Kenny Foggo said:

"There is no other argument for the licence than it’s coverage is fact based and thus balanced  instead of politically driven. I’m certainly not right wing or even political but I think the evidence of political leaning in BBC reporting is clear. Look what it ‘chooses’ for the BBC homepage"

So those who can't afford subscription TV, like old age pensioners, those living below the poverty line, you'd remove the BBC as a free channel. It's great value for money.

if you think the BBC are left wing leaning you are definitely political and I was suggest, ring wing. In my opinion.

How much do they pay for ITV? Does free view exist? You’ve made a non point arguing against a reality that doesn’t exist.

Also many people can’t afford the licence fee and still have to pay. It’s a regressive tax, it affects the poor disproportionately to the rich as it’s a flat fee regardless of your circumstances. 

[Ken Hairy 3,773]

2 minutes ago, The Real Buh said:

 

Can’t remember Netflix trying to put old ladies in jail either?

or re-write a history of child abuse from Jimmy Saville in a New drama after spending decade actively helping him and others abuse children….

Exactly. Personally I only watch the Beeb during sport so what, Wimbledon, Olympics and occasional football.... That's it!!! However I enjoy quite a few ITV and C4 dramas which are far superior in quality to the BBC ones so I have to be forced to have a BBC license.

I would have no issue if the BBC channels introduced adverts to cover costs. 

TV is changing, and the BBC model is outdated 

[The Real Buh 3,444]

4 minutes ago, hertfordyellow said:

How much do they pay for ITV? Does free view exist? You’ve made a non point arguing against a reality that doesn’t exist.

Also many people can’t afford the licence fee and still have to pay. It’s a regressive tax, it affects the poor disproportionately to the rich as it’s a flat fee regardless of your circumstances. 

I love the paradox of the most liberal people on here campaigning for a tax that doesn’t distinguish between income that a lot of people cannot afford and if they refuse to pay can end up in prison.

very revealing of their caring nature. Mind you, one of them earlier on in the thread said he’d “hunt down” everyone that doesn’t agree with him so there it is. Total bigots as usual.

[Kenny Foggo 1,116]

13 minutes ago, The Real Buh said:

 

Can’t remember Netflix trying to put old ladies in jail either?

or re-write a history of child abuse from Jimmy Saville in a New drama after spending decade actively helping him and others abuse children….

 

1. No old ladies were put in jail. It's not true. If they were I would suggest the Conservatives removing the free license fee for pensioners would not have helped.

2. You really think the BBC actively knew and helped Saville abuse kids? Can we see your evidence? He use to have Christmas with Thatcher at Chequers.. so was she helping him? It's like the Stramer claims... Not true. 

 

 

Edited February 6, 2022 by Kenny Foggo

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1 hour ago, hertfordyellow said:

I’m certainly not right wing or even political but I think the evidence of political leaning in BBC reporting is clear. Look what it ‘chooses’ for the BBC homepage.

I have just taken this from the BBC news homepage - could you explain what you mean, because it looks pretty right wing to me? A story on the Queen and two govt headlines that seem moderately supportive - am I missing something?

 

[BobLoz3 492]

GILMOUR

 

 

 

[TheGunnShow 5,940]

4 hours ago, shefcanary said:

Come on, above the thin veneer of independence given by Panorama and Sunday Morning, the BBC is the UK's state broadcaster.  As I reminded Nadine Dorries recently after her threat to shut down the BBC, if she did privatise / close it, HM Govt would have to create another State broadcaster to ensure they could get across their public health / social justice messages without it being impacted by adverse editorial.  Where's the value for money in that for the Treasury?  She very quickly changed her tune the next day.  

Exactly. The BBC does not have a liberal bias at all, it has a degree of bias towards the party in power.

[Grumpy Old Man 3]

Utterly immoral that the state forces people to pay for a TV 'licence' to fund its woke and politically 'nuanced' national broadcaster in a world of innumerable viewing options for all of which we have a CHOICE as to whether or not to subscribe!

🤬

[shefcanary 2,410]

55 minutes ago, The Real Buh said:

Billions?…..

Usual hyperbole from the media types!  🤣🤣

[Badger 2,406]

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/revealed-jimmy-savile-s-close-friendship-with-margaret-thatcher-8432351.html

 

[The Real Buh 3,444]

4 minutes ago, Kenny Foggo said:

 

1. No old ladies were put in jail. It's not true. If they were I would suggest the Conservatives removing the free license fee for pensioners would not have helped.

2. You really think the BBC actively knew and helped Saville abuse kids? Can we see your evidence? He use to have Christmas with Thatcher at Chequers.. so was she helping him? It's like the Stramer claims... Not true. 

 

 

The BBC were among many people and organisations that enabled Saville including Thatcher. John Lydon was banned from the BBC for suggesting there was “something going on” with Saville. He was very well protected and the BBC has spent decade trying to bury it. Unsuccessfully. It wasn’t just Saville either. The BBC was enabling many for decades. Again, why as a socialist are you supporting a non-means taxation on poor people? Could you be more of a champagne socialist? Just a generic soft moron. I look at you people as stupid as the “Tory boys” Uber-tories. Just basic, basic people.

 

the daily mail people and the guardian people are both morons, don’t you get it?

[The Real Buh 3,444]

10 minutes ago, Badger said:

I have just taken this from the BBC news homepage - could you explain what you mean, because it looks pretty right wing to me? A story on the Queen and two govt headlines that seem moderately supportive - am I missing something?

 

The funny thing about the BBC news is it has guaranteed money coming in but STILL goes for clickbait that a commercial news source would use.

clickbaiting, even though they don’t have to….

 

[Badger 2,406]

13 minutes ago, Kenny Foggo said:

He use to have Christmas with Thatcher at Chequers.. so was she helping him?

The Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse (IICSA) report involving MPs, peers and civil servants working in Westminster:

 

"The report identified how former prime minister Margaret Thatcher and ex-Conservative party chairman Norman (now Lord) Tebbit were aware of rumours about Morrison having “a penchant for small boys” but did nothing about it.

The report said the allegations “should have rung alarm bells in government”.

But, instead, “considerations of political embarrassment and the risk to security were paramount, while the activities of an alleged child sexual abuser who held senior positions in government and the Conservative Party were deliberately overlooked, as was the course of public justice”.

https://www.shropshirestar.com/news/uk-news/2020/02/25/establishment-covered-up-child-abuse-claims-to-protect-senior-mps-inquiry-finds/

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1 minute ago, The Real Buh said:

The BBC were among many people and organisations that enabled Saville including Thatcher. John Lydon was banned from the BBC for suggesting there was “something going on” with Saville. He was very well protected and the BBC has spent decade trying to bury it. Unsuccessfully. It wasn’t just Saville either. The BBC was enabling many for decades. Again, why as a socialist are you supporting a non-means taxation on poor people? Could you be more of a champagne socialist? Just a generic soft moron. I look at you people as stupid as the “Tory boys” Uber-tories. Just basic, basic people.

 

the daily mail people and the guardian people are both morons, don’t you get it?

My argument was there was nobody in the BBC "actively" helping Saville. If there was they would have been arrested. Did they have a duty of care not to make it easy for him to commit these crimes 100%, just as the health authorities had, the journalists who said nothing and the police that turned a blind eye. 

By the way, you can not be jailed for not having a licence. You can be fined by a court and it is them not the BBC that could jail you for non payment. No one has been, it's not true.

As far the generic soft moron, Tory boys, uber-tories, champagne socialist... If you say so my friend🤪

[The Real Buh 3,444]

Just now, Kenny Foggo said:

My argument was there was nobody in the BBC "actively" helping Saville. If there was they would have been arrested. Did they have a duty of care not to make it easy for him to commit these crimes 100%, just as the health authorities had, the journalists who said nothing and the police that turned a blind eye. 

By the way, you can not be jailed for not having a licence. You can be fined by a court and it is them not the BBC that could jail you for non payment. No one has been, it's not true.

As far the generic soft moron, Tory boys, uber-tories, champagne socialist... If you say so my friend🤪

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/tv-radio/jimmy-savile-report-stuart-hall-bbc-employees-who-knew-about-sexual-predators-a6896246.html
 

he was actively helped by senior bbc employees for years. Cry about it if you want but it happened.

[Monty13 2,235]

37 minutes ago, Kenny Foggo said:

As I hardly use most roads in the UK can I get a rebate on the tax I pay? Unlikely to need a mid wife .. refund? 

In my mind you are just arguing why it should be paid for by general taxation.

[Badger 2,406]

3 minutes ago, Monty13 said:

In my mind you are just arguing why it should be paid for by general taxation.

It could come from a variety of sources - but the license fee has had its day.

[shefcanary 2,410]

20 minutes ago, The Real Buh said:

The funny thing about the BBC news is it has guaranteed money coming in but STILL goes for clickbait that a commercial news source would use.

clickbaiting, even though they don’t have to….

 

That's because, like other outlets, they have reduced their investment in real journalism.

[The Real Buh 3,444]

Just now, shefcanary said:

That's because, like other outlets, they have reduced their investment in real journalism.

Journalists are taught from the very beginning how to clickbait. It’s all they do. 
 

clickbaiting IS journalism I guess, it’s now indistinguishable, even if you don’t need to clickbait because your revenue is unaffected by the number of clicks you get.

[Mello Yello 2,296]

Charlie and Naga are great.....They save me a small fortune because the minute they're on the TV I turn it off......

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The OP was complaining about our coverage on MOTD.

Well, I doubt I would hear any local news viz a viz SKY, Netflix etc. Yet for £3 a week I have Radio Cornwall on with local news and events including local sports at weekends and local news on television although more general than radio.

I think that is good value and long may it continue. And I would rather watch Only Connect  and University Challenge on the Beeb and try and expand my general knowledge than insufferable Walsh and even Shepard with the Chase and Tipping Point.

[The Real Buh 3,444]

3 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said:

The OP was complaining about our coverage on MOTD.

Well, I doubt I would hear any local news viz a viz SKY, Netflix etc. Yet for £3 a week I have Radio Cornwall on with local news and events including local sports at weekends and local news on television although more general than radio.

I think that is good value and long may it continue. And I would rather watch Only Connect  and University Challenge on the Beeb and try and expand my general knowledge than insufferable Walsh and even Shepard with the Chase and Tipping Point.

Yeah, but you’re some rich, old dude from the most expensive part of the UK. Of course you think it’s value for money. You’re loaded.

young people think it’s crap, it’s Woolworths and it’s already hit the iceberg. It’s nearly fully sunk. You should have got misty eyed about it ten years ago when it had a chance to change course.

[Greavsy 2,415]

38 minutes ago, The Real Buh said:

clickbaiting, even though they don’t have to….

Reminds me of someone one here! 

[Mello Yello 2,296]

I see Brendan's getting Rogered.....

[Greavsy 2,415]

5 minutes ago, The Real Buh said:

it’s Woolworths and it’s already hit the iceberg.

Cant remember that on the news, BBC or otherwise.... ☺ 

[Monty13 2,235]

27 minutes ago, Badger said:

It could come from a variety of sources - but the license fee has had its day.

100% agreement 

[Monty13 2,235]

1 hour ago, Kenny Foggo said:

"There is no other argument for the licence than it’s coverage is fact based and thus balanced  instead of politically driven. I’m certainly not right wing or even political but I think the evidence of political leaning in BBC reporting is clear. Look what it ‘chooses’ for the BBC homepage"

So those who can't afford subscription TV, like old age pensioners, those living below the poverty line, you'd remove the BBC as a free channel. It's great value for money.

if you think the BBC are left wing leaning you are definitely political and I was suggest, ring wing. In my opinion.

Except if the licence fee was removed you’d still have every other free channel. People would be better off and able to get at least one subscription with change if the fee was scrapped. Its people with lower incomes it affects the most.

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18 hours ago, Year of the tiger said:

They also said it was Gilmour who put Idah through. Funny the bloke who hits the pass has no 17 on his back

Check out post on extended highlights.

This is from canaries 📺 TV. Who does the matches for Norwich? How does it manage to get onto the official site without been ✔️ checked. 

On this official one the guy says the same about the pass. 🤔

[Kenny Foggo 1,116]

57 minutes ago, Monty13 said:

Except if the licence fee was removed you’d still have every other free channel. People would be better off and able to get at least one subscription with change if the fee was scrapped. Its people with lower incomes it affects the most.

I think the licence fee will have to go but if it is attempted in the timescale that our cultural secretary wants, it will destroy an institution that is well respected around the world. Give it ten to twenty years to sort out alternative funding in a structured planned manner.