Mello Yello 2,293 Posted August 30, 2021 Oh well.....looks like we're going to have to go with what we've got then...... ....meh..... 😉 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Paddons Beard 2,431 Posted August 30, 2021 (edited) Have we actually signed (sorry literally signed) Kabak? I can’t see any announcement from the Club? Please help. Now announced by the Club. Stand down everyone . Edited August 30, 2021 by Graham Paddons Beard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
It's Character Forming 1,160 Posted August 30, 2021 57 minutes ago, sonyc said: Players have signed too even knowing we are a new PL team and for a couple of signings that we are on nil points. It says to me they must have some belief in the 'project' and our set up / resources etc as much as the money. It's great too to keep reading that other 'big' teams have been following Tzolis, Rashica, Normann and Kabak. I realise the last two are loans so let's hope they make a difference and enjoy our area and playing style. Hope they buy in. Yes, realistically with Normann and Kabak, they will probably stay if we stay up but will probably go if we get relegated, but that aspect works on both sides really. I know we have a purchase option for Normann, not sure about Kabak. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,820 Posted August 30, 2021 2 hours ago, sonyc said: Players have signed too even knowing we are a new PL team and for a couple of signings that we are on nil points. It says to me they must have some belief in the 'project' and our set up / resources etc as much as the money. The loan-to-buy works for them too though and it's a bit of a free hit for them: if we stay up, they'll be happy to stay I presume, but if we go down then they can go elsewhere. We aren't lumbered with them if they flop, and they aren't stuck in the Championship if we go down. 1 hour ago, KeiranShikari said: No chance are they relying on future sales to cover the work this window. Correct, but even though we aren't relying on future sales to cover these costs, it's worth noting that pretty much all of our permanent signings will retain their transfer value should the worst happen, which is a sensible strategy. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
curious yellow 184 Posted August 30, 2021 Has the club previously ever been able to field a team of full internationals? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monty13 2,234 Posted August 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Capt. Pants said: That is absolutely no concern of ours. The money men will have done the calculations but we seem to have taken risks and are relying on Max and Todd being sold at some point to balance the books. 3 are loans and 2 were already accounted for apparently. Plus the sale of Buendia I don’t think we have overstretched ourselves, which is even more impressive given those arrivals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,820 Posted August 30, 2021 30 minutes ago, curious yellow said: Has the club previously ever been able to field a team of full internationals? Ruddy; Whittaker, Martin, Bassong, Olsson; Tettey, Fer; Snodgrass, Hoolahan, Pilkington; Elmander. No idea if that team actually did line up together in 2013/14, but they were all internationals who had been capped within the previous 12 months. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norfolk Dan 308 Posted August 30, 2021 2 hours ago, KeiranShikari said: No chance are they relying on future sales to cover the work this window. Funny that. I just spent £35k on stock for my business. So I'm also relying on future sales... Strange how business works.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,334 Posted August 30, 2021 6 hours ago, cambridgeshire canary said: Thats a very, very solid second 11 to be fair. Pretty sure that 11 would be able to get promotion to the Prem Kabak, Gilmour and Normann won't be with us in the Championship...... but yes, they would if the were, if you get my drift. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,334 Posted August 30, 2021 5 hours ago, hogesar said: ambitious I love that word when used in its correct context 😉👍😇 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,334 Posted August 30, 2021 6 hours ago, Thirsty Lizard said: We've changed our mantra from 'Prudence with Ambition' to 'Profligacy with Ambition' 😉🤣 I'd say we're still prudent, just a bigger purse, the strings are still tight though. Bet the moneymen at the club have worn out a few calculators working out the various permutations as funds became available and were used. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
It's Character Forming 1,160 Posted August 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, wcorkcanary said: I'd say we're still prudent, just a bigger purse, the strings are still tight though. Bet the moneymen at the club have worn out a few calculators working out the various permutations as funds became available and were used. Yep and it shows ! Much happier now than I was thinking about the gaps in our squad after Saturday's game. Also much happier than last time we went up to the Prem. when many of our signings were clearly hopeful rather than solid, eg. Byram, Roberts etc. No guarantees who will work out and how long it will take to bed the team together, but you have to say they've really given it a go this time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeiranShikari 1,410 Posted August 30, 2021 3 hours ago, Capt. Pants said: That is absolutely no concern of ours. The money men will have done the calculations but we seem to have taken risks and are relying on Max and Todd being sold at some point to balance the books. 3 hours ago, KeiranShikari said: No chance are they relying on future sales to cover the work this window. 24 minutes ago, Norfolk Dan said: Funny that. I just spent £35k on stock for my business. So I'm also relying on future sales... Strange how business works.... Not entirely sure what you're getting at there dan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norfolk Dan 308 Posted August 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, KeiranShikari said: Not entirely sure what you're getting at there dan. 3 hours ago, KeiranShikari said: No chance are they relying on future sales to cover the work this window. Unless I missed the context totally. It reads as if you are critical of the way this window has worked out as they are relying on future sales to cover it. My point is simple. How on earth do you run a business unless you buy in new stock and then sell it!? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeiranShikari 1,410 Posted August 30, 2021 Yeah, I'm saying the opposite if what you're taking from it for some reason. This window will have been paid for by sales already made and Premier League money. Totally not a wum Cap Pants stated that this window will mean we won't be investing Cantwell/Aarons fees in the future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yobocop 1,099 Posted August 30, 2021 3 hours ago, KeiranShikari said: 4 loans. 2 out of last season's budget. Same old Norwich, not even trying to give it a go. 😂 this has to be a fish 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yobocop 1,099 Posted August 30, 2021 36 minutes ago, KeiranShikari said: Yeah, I'm saying the opposite if what you're taking from it for some reason. This window will have been paid for by sales already made and Premier League money. Totally not a wum Cap Pants stated that this window will mean we won't be investing Cantwell/Aarons fees in the future. Correct - that’s how our model works and has worked for past two seasons Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paddycanary 539 Posted August 30, 2021 Given the constraints & the parameters within which the club functions, it's a hugely impressive window. The best ever in my opinion. The squad has a nice balance of experience & potential. Players are here to further their careers & make a name for themselves. There is a high probability of resale value for the younger purchases. The loan market has been expertly exploited for both ins & outs. There are options, tactical flexibility and a healthy competition for places throughout the squad. Plenty of players surplus to requirements have been moved on. A huge thumbs up from me for Webber & his team. I'm genuinely excited to see what this group can achieve over the season. Patience will still be required as they all need time & there will be plenty of setbacks I'm sure, but there's no comparison with two summers ago. Bravo! 👍💥 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,334 Posted August 30, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said: The loan-to-buy works for them too though and it's a bit of a free hit for them: if we stay up, they'll be happy to stay I presume, but if we go down then they can go elsewhere. We aren't lumbered with them if they flop, and they aren't stuck in the Championship if we go down. And there is the third scenario, we stay up, the loans are superb for us and we buy, feel we have adequate in reserve and sell one or the other for a mahoosive profit. Edited August 30, 2021 by wcorkcanary Fourth scenario is that they are rubbish , we stay up despite them and are lumbered with them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCPFC 11 Posted August 30, 2021 I’m excited to see what happens. Well done Mr Webber👍 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shruk4 60 Posted August 31, 2021 Cant wait until we get some wins and get praised from the pundits "for doing things the right way". We're just stealthily buying ourselves into Europe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shruk4 60 Posted August 31, 2021 I'm getting a bit melancholic. There is a completely different group in place now. The old is out, in with the new. I just want to watch Buendia play throughballs to Pukki til the sun explodes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BaltimoreBird 127 Posted August 31, 2021 The amount, and class, of the players we brought in this window has to change the dressing room I imagine, and a few of the players who were here originally need to either step up their game or watch their job get taken from them. I would love to be able to watch the next few training sessions. I'll bet that our energy the next time out is unmatched. Unfortunate that we couldn't have a bottom-of-the-table-type next up on the schedule, but instead have to face Arsenal...oh wait. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth Vadis 151 Posted August 31, 2021 Would love to see this lineup against Arsenal. McLean/Lees-Melou is debatable and obviously Idah should be amongst the subs there somewhere, alas this app only allows for one sub per position. Cantwell/Tzolis also a difficult choice. Never been this excited to see a Norwich XI before. With the additions of Normann and Kabak I am very confident we can be seriously competitive at this level now. Good strength in depth for a lower prem club too. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,234 Posted August 31, 2021 12 hours ago, KeiranShikari said: Yeah, I'm saying the opposite if what you're taking from it for some reason. This window will have been paid for by sales already made and Premier League money. Totally not a wum Cap Pants stated that this window will mean we won't be investing Cantwell/Aarons fees in the future. Er where did I say this window? I said 'at some point'. We have contractual wages to pay on the players bought on permanents and have only removed Buendia from the wage bill. If we don't get relegated then things should be fine. Get relegated I would have thought things will be extremely tight and will require Todd or Max to be sold. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobLoz3 492 Posted August 31, 2021 19 hours ago, keelansgrandad said: When will we see them? Fitness aside, surely we can't afford to wait to bed them in? Or are they all off on international duty? Is Kabak part of a back three, which I think I would prefer? Surely Gilmour will move forward to his rightful position with old Normann Old Boys in the team. So who drops out? There can be no doubt we are not trying to build a team for the Championship. I have no doubt our wages may be better but surely these boys are here for the EPL? Gilmour's position is his position. That's where he's played for Chelsea in the past. Thing is, there he has Kante alongside him, or one of Chelsea's other many good midfielders. We may not see him start at all now we have our other midfield reinforcements sorted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites