Jim Smith 2,317 Posted May 13, 2020 I keep coming back to that intervention by the FA. That has changed things and is effectively forcing leagues (or at least the premier league) into a PPG impasse situation. Why has the FA seen fit to lay down that stipulation at this juncture. Rick Parry is a member of the FA board. How much influence did he have over the decision by the FA to make that comment? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dylanisabaddog 4,921 Posted May 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Jim Smith said: I keep coming back to that intervention by the FA. That has changed things and is effectively forcing leagues (or at least the premier league) into a PPG impasse situation. Why has the FA seen fit to lay down that stipulation at this juncture. Rick Parry is a member of the FA board. How much influence did he have over the decision by the FA to make that comment? I've missed that Jim. What have they said? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rich T The Biscuit 562 Posted May 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, dylanisabaddog said: Good luck to them with that. Swansea in 11th could easily make the play offs. Villa did it from a similar position last year. And look who was second at the same stage last season Leeds have Fulham to play so lose that and it would have got interesting. I have no issues with them going up as long as they have earned the right, not had it given on some formula. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,317 Posted May 13, 2020 1 minute ago, dylanisabaddog said: I've missed that Jim. What have they said? Its been reported that they told the premier league clubs at the meeting on Monday that they would not sanction the league being voided or a no relegation solution. Or words to that effect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rich T The Biscuit 562 Posted May 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jim Smith said: I keep coming back to that intervention by the FA. That has changed things and is effectively forcing leagues (or at least the premier league) into a PPG impasse situation. Why has the FA seen fit to lay down that stipulation at this juncture. Rick Parry is a member of the FA board. How much influence did he have over the decision by the FA to make that comment? Not sure where I posted it but the tone from the journos today is about the FA wanting the PL to relegate, previously it was stated that they will demand it, so maybe bit as much as he believed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dylanisabaddog 4,921 Posted May 13, 2020 Just now, Jim Smith said: Its been reported that they told the premier league clubs at the meeting on Monday that they would not sanction the league being voided or a no relegation solution. Or words to that effect. It's looking more and more likely that this will end up in court, at least I think that was what Webber was strongly hinting at this morning. If so, it will be for a judge to decide. Some of the FA board members still can't work out why Old Etonians aren't in the FA Cup any more which is why the EPL was formed in the first place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HairyTeeth 16 Posted May 13, 2020 I can guarantee if the season is not finished we will not get relegated. The FA will change there tune after a few more meetings. By using the PPG system ive seen over the past few days there are many clubs that will go down the court case route etc........ It will jeopardise the start of next season. There are only 2 options and that is all leagues play to a finish or void the season. You just cant relegate teams for the sake of it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
......and Smith must score. 1,343 Posted May 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Crabbycanary3 said: Imagine the Leeds fan's concerns at the first Norwich player to get the virus. They'll be shouting for an independent (North Yorkshire) Doctor to do another test.  They'd want one from South Yorkshire. Those Northerners would screw 'em over 😀 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Raptor 1,207 Posted May 13, 2020 Apologies if this has been said and I've missed it. Looking at that table. At the same time last year Leeds had more points and didn't go up. Ppg is not an indicator of anything. They have to be promoted on the pitch or not at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DraytonBoy 150 Posted May 13, 2020 Flip things around, the Championship completes but the PL doesn't, what happens then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crabbycanary3 994 Posted May 13, 2020 58 minutes ago, HairyTeeth said: I can guarantee if the season is not finished we will not get relegated. The FA will change there tune after a few more meetings. By using the PPG system ive seen over the past few days there are many clubs that will go down the court case route etc........ It will jeopardise the start of next season. There are only 2 options and that is all leagues play to a finish or void the season. You just cant relegate teams for the sake of it. Totally agree. Any court process (coupled with appeals) could delay next season by months The PL are blustering at the moment, thinking they can brow beat teams. Their arrogance will be the beating of themselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,317 Posted May 13, 2020 47 minutes ago, JF said: Â Amazing how they've gone from having no plan to suddenly deciding they can start in 3 weeks almost overnight after we and other premier league clubs spoke up. I don't believe they are remotely in a position to start playing games on 6th June. Â 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JF 694 Posted May 13, 2020 22 minutes ago, Jim Smith said: Amazing how they've gone from having no plan to suddenly deciding they can start in 3 weeks almost overnight after we and other premier league clubs spoke up. I don't believe they are remotely in a position to start playing games on 6th June.  Very suspicious isn’t it. They want to start in 3 weeks but currently the training regime won’t allow group training. Going to be a lot of injuries in that first weekend! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,671 Posted May 13, 2020 Be massively surprised if the Championship starts in June at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted May 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, JF said: Very suspicious isn’t it. They want to start in 3 weeks but currently the training regime won’t allow group training. Going to be a lot of injuries in that first weekend! Well that’s a lot of tests. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JF 694 Posted May 13, 2020 Journos need to make their mind up!! Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JF 694 Posted May 13, 2020 There is another issue for the championship that I’ve only just thought about. The Welsh government may not allow Swansea and Cardiff to play 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dylanisabaddog 4,921 Posted May 13, 2020 I can see how we can legally challenge playing at neutral grounds and relegation based on an incomplete season but I don't get Webber's remarks about the Championship. Surely it's up to them who they promote? We're not in the Championship so I can't see it's any of our business. He may just be chucking the kitchen sink at them in which case good luck to him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian 1,129 Posted May 13, 2020 12 minutes ago, dylanisabaddog said: I can see how we can legally challenge playing at neutral grounds and relegation based on an incomplete season but I don't get Webber's remarks about the Championship. Surely it's up to them who they promote? We're not in the Championship so I can't see it's any of our business. He may just be chucking the kitchen sink at them in which case good luck to him I suppose his point is to underline that legal action would be forthcoming in this scenario if the FA/EPL try to enforce. PPG. It may also sway other EPL shareholders who would perhaps prefer to scrap relegation and protect their players and staff if the Championship are not prepared to finish their matches.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,317 Posted May 13, 2020 17 minutes ago, dylanisabaddog said: I can see how we can legally challenge playing at neutral grounds and relegation based on an incomplete season but I don't get Webber's remarks about the Championship. Surely it's up to them who they promote? We're not in the Championship so I can't see it's any of our business. He may just be chucking the kitchen sink at them in which case good luck to him  17 minutes ago, dylanisabaddog said: I can see how we can legally challenge playing at neutral grounds and relegation based on an incomplete season but I don't get Webber's remarks about the Championship. Surely it's up to them who they promote? We're not in the Championship so I can't see it's any of our business. He may just be chucking the kitchen sink at them in which case good luck to him I’m not sure he was making a legal point, more a sporting integrity point and appealing to sense of fairness. Implicit in his statement is we won’t accept PPG either because that would mean one or both leagues haven’t concluded. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fiery Zac 1,066 Posted May 13, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, dylanisabaddog said: I can see how we can legally challenge playing at neutral grounds and relegation based on an incomplete season but I don't get Webber's remarks about the Championship. Surely it's up to them who they promote? We're not in the Championship so I can't see it's any of our business. He may just be chucking the kitchen sink at them in which case good luck to him I think it was just a very clever remark to get people thinking. ‘decide it on the pitch’ As a club, we come out of our silence talking sense, getting many fans talking and agreeing with us, increasing the debate, moving it away from simply trashing the bottom 6, whilst also gently reminding the FA and the PL that we (along with other clubs) aren’t going to simply go along with their numerous and ludicrous ideas all of which are designed to see teams relegated unfairly and certainly not respecting the ‘integrity of the game’ Edited May 13, 2020 by Fiery Zac 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 5,517 Posted May 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Crabbycanary3 said: Totally agree. Any court process (coupled with appeals) could delay next season by months The PL are blustering at the moment, thinking they can brow beat teams. Their arrogance will be the beating of themselves. We may disagree on Marina but on this I agree totally. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crabbycanary3 994 Posted May 13, 2020 23 minutes ago, sonyc said: We may disagree on Marina but on this I agree totally. ? Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 5,517 Posted May 13, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Crabbycanary3 said: ?  I owe you an apology Crabby! Sorry (I mixed you up with Crafty Canary on the main C19 thread). You must have thought WTF.🤠 Edited May 13, 2020 by sonyc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crabbycanary3 994 Posted May 13, 2020 11 minutes ago, sonyc said: I owe you an apology Crabby! Sorry (I mixed you up with Crafty Canary on the main C19 thread). You must have thought WTF.🤠 It crossed my mind 🙂 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PurpleCanary 5,558 Posted May 13, 2020 14 minutes ago, sonyc said: I owe you an apology Crabby! Sorry (I mixed you up with Crafty Canary on the main C19 thread). You must have thought WTF.🤠 Badger and Bagster getting frequently confused was bad enough...🤓 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
All the Germans 1,075 Posted May 13, 2020 I genuinely can't see the promote but no relegation happening. Why would most clubs even consider allowing more teams to become shareholders, diminishing their 'slice' of the revenue; to be split 22 or 23 ways, instead of 20? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,334 Posted May 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, PurpleCanary said: Badger and Bagster getting frequently confused was bad enough...🤓 Dont bring Badgero into it, I'm already Bagstero and Jayeffo!!  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites