ricardo 7,395 Posted May 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, Yellow Fever said: It's really very simple. I suspect the final humiliation will be when all the members of Sage resign including thre CMO etc if Cummings is still in post by Monday. Some people have some morals and principals and will have to make a stand. The papers and interviews tomorrow will frankly crucify him and by extension Johnson. If there is a cover up too then Johnson himself is a target for resignation. By the way - did anybody else catch CV-19 in Durham due to the visit ? Prove they didtn't ! The 2-1 bet stands until June 1st But I fear its a loser. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted May 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, ricardo said: I think you've cornered the outrage market.😉 I hardly think my pointing out Tories (and you righties) lying amounts to outrage 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,334 Posted May 23, 2020 7 minutes ago, Midlands Yellow said: And not forgetting Tom Driberg under the the glass coffee table. The table was glass, but it wasnt Coffee on it. Mind you, the whole story would have been a bit messier without the table. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 3,995 Posted May 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said: At least the Liberals went both barrels and murder🧐 Uncle Cyril was chief whip too under Thorpe so I’m surprised the party got in such a pickle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 3,995 Posted May 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, wcorkcanary said: The table was glass, but it wasnt Coffee on it. Mind you, the whole story would have been a bit messier without the table. It sounds like it was quite a party by all accounts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted May 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, wcorkcanary said: The table was glass, but it wasnt Coffee on it. Mind you, the whole story would have been a bit messier without the table. I think he lost his deposit 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 3,995 Posted May 23, 2020 He definitely did a friendly meet and greet exchange before the table was pulled out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted May 23, 2020 bank holiday weekend and plod will have the unenviable task of telling to 'lower orders' to observe the lock down rules - against the background of this hypocrisy (and cover up) Good luck boys (and girls)in blue. Who knows , you might even have one of your lot even condemning the actions of the man who has made your job that much harder this weekend . but I wouldn't hold your breath on that one ,..........................tugging your forelock to your betters can handicap typing 😁 anyway off out, as with this cough a stroll along the quay should do wonders - and do stay save, remember 'master knows best' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creative Midfielder 1,998 Posted May 23, 2020 14 minutes ago, ricardo said: Defending him am I? When Ive already said I dont give **** and have had 2-1 him going. Looks like i am going to lose my money. I wouldn't give up hope entirely yet @RIcardo, looking at ****'s remarks he appears to be claiming he didn't break the rules which is total s**t (but entirely charactaristic of the man) but he also appears to be saying that Durham police are lying - and that, I suspect, more than anything else will throw more petrol on the fire and maybe tilt things slightly your way. Resignation is so obviously the only right thing to do that it shouldn't even need saying, and in some ways it would be a welcome bit of good news after a very bleak couple of months. But trying to take a longer term view if this most deceitful and incompetent government are going to rally round and keep him that is also very good news as it will ultimately cause them vastly more damage than a quick resignation. So hasn't happened very often for quite a while but for many of us we actually have a win-win situation 😀 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 4,751 Posted May 23, 2020 12 minutes ago, Bill said: bank holiday weekend and plod will have the unenviable task of telling to 'lower orders' to observe the lock down rules - against the background of this hypocrisy (and cover up) Good luck boys (and girls)in blue. Who knows , you might even have one of your lot even condemning the actions of the man who has made your job that much harder this weekend . but I wouldn't hold your breath on that one ,..........................tugging your forelock to your betters can handicap typing 😁 anyway off out, as with this cough a stroll along the quay should do wonders - and do stay save, remember 'master knows best' I take it you will reply to the lie you posted on your return ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,334 Posted May 23, 2020 7 minutes ago, Creative Midfielder said: I wouldn't give up hope entirely yet @RIcardo, looking at ****'s remarks he appears to be claiming he didn't break the rules which is total s**t (but entirely charactaristic of the man) but he also appears to be saying that Durham police are lying - and that, I suspect, more than anything else will throw more petrol on the fire and maybe tilt things slightly your way. Resignation is so obviously the only right thing to do that it shouldn't even need saying, and in some ways it would be a welcome bit of good news after a very bleak couple of months. But trying to take a longer term view if this most deceitful and incompetent government are going to rally round and keep him that is also very good news as it will ultimately cause them vastly more damage than a quick resignation. So hasn't happened very often for quite a while but for many of us we actually have a win-win situation 😀 Aye, they'll be mulling over the options right now, " close ranks, for sure, the big decision is do we sack him to make ourselves look good,but with possible long term consequences,OR, do we somehow get him to resign and take all responsibly with him." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tetteys Jig 830 Posted May 23, 2020 Well either he broke the rules or the rules weren't fit for purpose or communicated effectively. It's a **** up either way Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,395 Posted May 23, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Creative Midfielder said: I wouldn't give up hope entirely yet @RIcardo, looking at ****'s remarks he appears to be claiming he didn't break the rules which is total s**t (but entirely charactaristic of the man) but he also appears to be saying that Durham police are lying - and that, I suspect, more than anything else will throw more petrol on the fire and maybe tilt things slightly your way. Resignation is so obviously the only right thing to do that it shouldn't even need saying, and in some ways it would be a welcome bit of good news after a very bleak couple of months. But trying to take a longer term view if this most deceitful and incompetent government are going to rally round and keep him that is also very good news as it will ultimately cause them vastly more damage than a quick resignation. So hasn't happened very often for quite a while but for many of us we actually have a win-win situation 😀 Unless they have something else like proof he stopped at a service station I fear the bet is lost. Yes you are probably right, much better for the opposition that he stays in the long run. Edited May 23, 2020 by ricardo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creative Midfielder 1,998 Posted May 23, 2020 1 minute ago, ricardo said: Unless they have something else like proof he stopped at a service station I fear the bet is lost. Maybe, but flying off on a complete tangent - I put the asterisks in s**t to save the site time but why on earth has the site auto-sensor replaced the surname of the PM's political advisor with asterisks. I know his behaviour was extremely reprehensible but surely we're still allowed to use his correct surname?? 😀 What on earth would it do if we called him some of the names he actually deserves 😂🤣😂 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark .Y. 352 Posted May 23, 2020 11 minutes ago, ricardo said: Unless they have something else like proof he stopped at a service station I fear the bet is lost. Yes you are probably right, much better for the opposition that he stays in the long run. I'm going to disagree with you there Ricardo. One thing I've learned about the great British public is that they have very short memories. Assuming we get through all this in a couple of months time, most people will have moved on to planning a holiday or be busy trying to find/keep a job etc. Unless there is a proper independent enquiry (and possible criminal charges) which cause the resignations of senior members of the Government - the British people will have moved on, probably sad - but thats the way it is. Cummings trip will have been completely forgotten about, might be raised a couple of times by the opposition but it will be seen as such a minor event by most that they won't care. You can decide for yourself whether that is an indictment of the people of Gt. Britain Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,395 Posted May 23, 2020 Is it dying away. Zero new Covid-19 cases reported over the last 6 days for 21 English local authorities. Note 1. these are +ve Pillar 1 tests (no locations for Pillar 2); 2. possible cases yet to be reported for some of these dates. With those caveats, here they are. Is your area on the list? 1Adur 2Broxbourne 3Chichester 4City of London 5East Hertfordshire 6Epsom and Ewell 7Harlow 8Havant 9Horsham 10Islington 11Malvern Hills 12North Kesteven 13Rochford 14South Hams (10 days with no new cases) 15Sutton 16Torbay 17Uttlesford 18West Devon (10 days with no new cases) 19West Lindsey 20Worthing 21Wychavon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barbe bleu 827 Posted May 23, 2020 I think you are correct Mark Y. I dont think the general public are any more concerned than they were about the other 2. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surfer 1,547 Posted May 23, 2020 (edited) Well Dominic Raab has already come out following the part line to defend Cummings already... so... Unfortunately for them this won't be going away - fabulous stories about economic uplands is one thing, but fabulous stories about something everyone in the UK has direct knowledge of will cause massive damage, one way or the other. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8249237/Dominic-Cummings-lifts-lid-isolation-wife-young-son-ill-coronavirus.html https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-britain-cummings-s-idUSKBN22Z0G5?taid=5ec92e75c4c54c00017f15a8&utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter And here's the very same Government treating out advice to stay home... from this morning no less. Edited May 23, 2020 by Surfer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted May 23, 2020 I just remarked to Mrs KG about Rees Mogg's ridiculous tweet and Simon Pegg's reply. She said remind which one is Rees Mogg. I said looks like where's Wally in a morning suit. And she said I#Oh yes, I remember. Why didn't you say asrehole, I would have known who you meant straightaway. Wheres Wally Jacob Rees Mogg 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 5,170 Posted May 23, 2020 Tom Newton Dunn is the Political Editor of the Sun. Tom Newton Dunn @tnewtondunn Operation Save Dom steps up. Mid-ranking ministers and backbenchers now being asked by Tory whips to tweet support for Cummings, for “basically looking after his family”. One MP: “I told them to **** off”. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted May 23, 2020 Well Dominic Raab has already come out following the part line to defend Cummings already... so... Unfortunately for them this won't be going away - fabulous stories about economic uplands is one thing, but fabulous stories about something everyone in the UK has direct knowledge of will cause massive damage, one way or the other. Well you cannot have the Leader of the Commons saying you have to protect the health of three year olds at all times and then advocate sending the poorer ones back to school. Rees Mogg is rapidly showing a posh voice and wealthy upbringing doesn't make you clever. It just accentuates your stupidity. Stay at home sir Back to school you oiks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted May 23, 2020 If only they had ring fenced the care homes as well as they have Cummings says one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barbe bleu 827 Posted May 23, 2020 25 minutes ago, ricardo said: Is it dying away. Zero new Covid-19 cases reported over the last 6 days for 21 English local authorities. Note 1. these are +ve Pillar 1 tests (no locations for Pillar 2); 2. possible cases yet to be reported for some of these dates. With those caveats, here they are. Is your area on the list? 1Adur 2Broxbourne 3Chichester 4City of London 5East Hertfordshire 6Epsom and Ewell 7Harlow 8Havant 9Horsham 10Islington 11Malvern Hills 12North Kesteven 13Rochford 14South Hams (10 days with no new cases) 15Sutton 16Torbay 17Uttlesford 18West Devon (10 days with no new cases) 19West Lindsey 20Worthing 21Wychavon Islington is an interesting one. Probably peaked before lockdown and like neighbouring boroughs has very low returns for the whole of May Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 5,526 Posted May 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said: If only they had ring fenced the care homes as well as they have Cummings says one. They've thrown a protective ring around him 😉 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 5,526 Posted May 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, Barbe bleu said: Islington is an interesting one. Probably peaked before lockdown and like neighbouring boroughs has very low returns for the whole of May All in the south of the country Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted May 23, 2020 Boris has panicked and told Schapps to announce free internet, free tuition fees😓 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted May 23, 2020 1 minute ago, sonyc said: All in the south of the country Cornwall reported our R0 has increased to R0.7 which is the highest it has been. So the increase in testing has shown that there is more of it than expected. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barbe bleu 827 Posted May 23, 2020 12 minutes ago, sonyc said: All in the south of the country Pretty much. Two london boroughs and three on the essex/herts metropolitan fringe. Lockdown was the same for all so what is driving this regionalisation ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites